User talk:Knife-in-the-drawer/ISBN

ISBN errors
Sorry about the errors, and thanks for catching them. I am basically adding the material as per the listings in the Guide to Reference I am using as a source. Evidently it has a couple mistakes in it. I will, eventually, get around to checking everything myself, but it is a really scarily long list of sources that it includes. John Carter (talk) 17:08, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

More ISBN numbers with wrong checksum
In CHECKWIKI/073 dump you can find pages with ISBN-13 with wrong checksum that were found by previous database scans. As soon as this list is fixed we can perform a new scan to see what is really left at this area. Your work made error #73 possible to handle! -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:52, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, :


 * Thanks for your encouragement along the way. (Sometimes, like today after looking at the new ISBN error totals, I feel like Sisyphus. :-)


 * Which would you prefer:


 * I divide my time evenly among errors 70, 72, 73


 * I focus on error 73


 * Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 05:09, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Go for the first one as you already do. I am good either way.

Error 73 has very few items now. The numbers kept increasing for various reasons that prevent us from spotting the ISBN error.
 * Some editors add ISBN numbers without using the ISBN magic. I've taken care more of them. I recently fixes all those with links to booksource and deleted ISBN. Now it's only Cite isbn to take care and we at least started it
 * Once an ISBN number is fixed WPCleaner will mark the page as fixed even there are more ISBN errors in the same page.

A full database scan will reveal the real number of pages with errors. We were not able to do that for a long time due to the large number of pages with ISBN errors that was slowing the entire CHECKWIKI process down. Thanks to your work, we will be able to add error 73 probably with the next database scan (estimated in early May) and soon(?) the other two errors. Thanks for your effort! -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I see no more pages with incorrect url at akitashoten.co.jp unless I miss something. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:31, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

More ISBN numbers with wrong length
In CHECKWIKI/070 dump you can find pages with ISBN with wrong length that were found by previous database scans. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:48, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

New dump
A new dump for enwiki finally got done. Checkwiki is running on it right now. Results should be up at User:Magioladitis/AWB and CHECKWIKI in around 18 hours. There will be two updates on that page. One will be the errors from the dump. After that, each error get checked and have the ones already fixed removed.

The error lists found on the CheckWiki website will take a couple days to update. The WMF lab's machines are slower than my 5 year old laptop.

You are really inconveniencing me. When I start the checkwiki program, I can see within 30 seconds that it is running and finding errors. It took 3 minutes today because of you fixing the ISBN errors. Will you stop being so good at fixing errors. :) Bgwhite (talk) 05:30, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm "grabbing" May 070_dump, 071_dump, 072_dump, and 073_dump. For a change of pace, may I also grab a couple of other dumps?  If yes, your choice or mine? Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 02:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Your choice :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:32, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

To be honest this month I ruined all the fun but doing almost everything in 24 hours. We'll coordinate much better next month. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:33, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You ruined? I guess you don't need my help next month or help with putting up the lists. No good $(@#*% ungrateful @?$@ Magioladitis.  :)
 * I think this has to be a record in finishing up so fast. Hmmm, the ISBN errors aren't fixed. Boy, wants to help out with other errors, but can't fix the ones they already have.... :)  Bgwhite (talk) 00:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * FYI... April's dump had 14,337 errors.  May's dump had 8,974 errors.  The difference is attributable to your hard work.  04:55, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded 21 more pages in error #90. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I will work on "Komunikacijos teorija" later today--it has 57x error #90. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 10:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * ...and now that I look at this article closely (and not just at the number of errors)...I think it would be a waste of time to work on it for several reasons: 1) it's not written in English, 2) it's proposed for deletion, and 3) according to the prod, the text was copy/pasted from somewhere else. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 15:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Knife-in-the-drawer I put the prod. I have not researched further but it looks like as a copy/pasted text or autotranslation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't think Magioladitis showed you User:Magioladitis/AWB and CHECKWIKI. Bgwhite (talk) 17:40, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, You told me about it at the start of this section; I'm working with it right now, specifically #72 errors. I like the format of that page--the Whitelists were interesting to me. I haven't quite figured out what's going on with the Checkwiki pages during the past couple of days--the numbers jump up and down--but I'll probably stick with Magioladitis/AWB and CHECKWIKI because it forces me to use WPCleaner and kill all ISBN errors in an article in one shot. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 18:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I really wished my brain was still with me. It has been missed.  I saw you doing #4 and #28 errors from the dumps, but they had been finished.  So, I mentioned the list.
 * The numbers on the Checkwiki page jumped because the dump processing was completed on the WMF computers. WMF computers are slower.  It has to process there because it produces data some other projects use.  I then reset everything on the checkwiki page to zero.  It won't jump again until the next dump.  Bgwhite (talk) 18:10, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

ISBN
Thanks for your efforts correcting ISBNs. I cannot say that I understand the mathematics, but I'm not sure that I need to. Thanks for your work. -- Dauster (talk) 10:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * What is the point of having ISBN in the left column if it does not make the link you want, as is done in Animalia (book)? It is a disappointing link, explaining how ISBN is formed, fairly boring. The number itself has no value on line, except for those holding a first edition in hand to see if it matches. I do not want to understand the programming issues involved -- rather I am making my point that the infobox begins to look sloppy, instead of concise. Most of the book articles I have read include a Publication history section, and there is plenty of space for links to that ISBN article there, rather than in the infobox. Not to worry, I will stop deleting what I thought was unneeded text from the infobox book articles I come upon, The Hundred Days (novel) included. You seem to be the committee of one on this point.  --Prairieplant (talk) 05:54, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

ISBN errors: Thank you
Hello ‎Knife-in-the-drawer, Thank you very much for the correction and the useful link. I will correct the remaining ISBNs. Is there any tool that I can use to correct them in one shot? Thanks again, EVDiam (talk) 14:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, :


 * I use WPCleaner to find all errors in an article in one shot. Although it's possible to make all of your changes in an article, then "upload" the article back to Wikipedia with WPCleaner, I prefer to edit articles "the old-fashioned way" directly in Wikipedia. I just feel "safer" that way. Depends upon personal preference.


 * I also use this conversion program to validate ISBNs (the program's error messages are a mess, but it truly is the best program I've used otherwise), convert from ISBN-10 to ISBN-13, and hyphenate ISBNs. I can't say enough good words about this program.  It's fast.  It also offers a batch mode.  The support is excellent. I once requested a change to the program, and they provided same-day service; I actually saw the change take effect while I worked.


 * If you have any questions, let me know.

OriginalISBN
I renamed OriginalISBN to ISBN (both parameters have the same functionality for anime/manga). This helped reveal ISBN problems which can be found at CHECKWIKI/073 dump. It turns ISBN problems are undead :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:48, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Close and open WPCleaner again. It should include OriginalISBN in it checks from now on. I just updated the configuration. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:49, 13 June 2015 (UTC)