User talk:Knipe

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Hello, Knipe, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Darlington Social Cricket Club, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type helpme on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Darlington Social Cricket Club


A tag has been placed on Darlington Social Cricket Club requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:52, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Please note that even if the copyright issue were resolved, the promotional tone of a company or personal website is likely to be unsuitable for an encyclopedia article, which requires a neutral point of view. Article subjects need to have notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." There is more detail at WP:Notability (organizations and companies), and good advice on how to write an acceptable article at WP:Your first article. JohnCD (talk) 10:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

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My "hobby in retirement", as you put it, is helping behind the scenes with this collaborative effort to build an encyclopedia. That includes helping to filter the flood of new material - more than one new article a minute - and trying to ensure that Wikipedia remains an impartial, neutral and selective encyclopedia, and does not turn into a sort of super-Myspace.

Copyright is a very serious issue for Wikipedia, the license terms involve more than just permission to reproduce, and we have no way to know that somebody on the end of a wire claiming to be the author is who he says he is. Material found to be a copy is therefore speedily deleted, but the submitter is given the notice that you see above, telling him what to do to grant permission. It is not up to me to disprove that you own the copyright: it is up to you to prove it.

However it is seldom worth doing that because, as the paragraph I put just below the copyright warning explains, material written for other purposes is usually unsuitable for an encyclopedia - too promotional, too chatty, not "encyclopedic" - and also does not provide the significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources required to establish that the subject is notable enough to have an encyclopedia article. It is a mistake to think of Wikipedia as a notice-board onto which to pin material written for other purposes. We are so keen to encourage people to come and edit that we are not as good as we should be at explaining in advance what Wikipedia is not. I have conversations like this so often that I have written an essay, User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard, which I hope will make things clear to you.

I have to say that I think it unlikely that your cricket club will qualify for an article; if you want to try, what you need to do is: read the links in that essay, and satisfy yourself that you can meet the notability requirement of showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people unconnected with the subject found it significant and important enough to write substantial comment on? See WP:42.

If so, read WP:Your first article, make a draft in your WP:User space - see Help:Userspace draft for how to do that - and then submit it at WP:Articles for creation, declaring your interest, i.e. that you represent the club.

JohnCD (talk) 23:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)