User talk:Knitshop

User:Knitshop


A tag has been placed on User:Knitshop, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of User:Knitshop and leave a note on |the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 10:44, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

the promotional elements are been reviewed and removed. the company is one of the larger supplier in London, UK and well known in the knitting world in the UK, often published and reviewed in the relevant industry magazines in the UK. This information will be placed in the page too with references. --Knitshop (talk) 11:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended or used for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.

Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements, and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but it is considered inappropriate for such groups to use Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.

Probably not. See WP:FAQ/Organization for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, or organization. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again. Consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

You are still welcome to write about something other than your company or organization. If you do intend to make useful contributions on some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:
 * What can I do now?


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, please see how to appeal a block. Courcelles (talk) 12:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Appeal on Indefinite Block
Hi Courcelles, with regards to the block. As a result of the autoblock, I started rewriting the content but by the time I got to saving it, I realised I am blocked. I have had rewritten the content to make it factual and more Encyclopaedia like, with references and external resources (removing the offending promo paragraphs). Which I hope will be more acceptable.

Would you consider re-establishing with the promised reviewed content?

Regards, Vladimir aka Knitshop

rewritten saved draft (the full was lost... during update due to the block).

KNITSHOP.CO.UK is an online shop for knitting felting and more...

History
Knitshop.co.uk is the trading name of KNITSHOP LTD, Registered in England and Wales. Knitshop was started as an idea in 2004 and in 2005 registered as a company with the view of providing alternative natural fibre yarn supply to the British (and international) market at reasonable prices for the type of products over the Internet. The company has been continually operated out of London, initially Chiswick, then Hayes, Kent, when in 2008 it moved to its larger premisses in Woolwich and in 2010 saw the launch of its first High Street outlet at 326 Lee High Road, London SE13 5PJ.

The company is family owned and operated, and currently has a team of supporters keen to assist at the Outlet's premises.

The outlet
The first High Street outlet of Knitshop.co.uk was opened in the beginning of 2010.

Located at 326 Lee High Road London SE13 5PJ, the outlet's interior design and shop-fit was completed entirely by Knitshop.co.uk's own staff and owners.

Since its opening the outlet has turned into a community crafter's focal point and an educational centre for needle craft.

The website
KNITSHOP fully owns its technology. Its website is hosted in the UK, and is secured with a professional host. Content is updated by staff regularly to keep the site relevant. The product catalogue on the site is updated with all products and quantities as changes occur providing up-to-date information. All sensitive data is encrypted and SSL encryption is provided by GeoTrust

World Wide Knit in Public Day 2010
The 2010 celebration of the World Wide Knit in Public day was celebrated at Manor House Park, Lee Green, over two weekends in June. The event was well attended with visitors joining from the local and neighbouring (Bromley, Greenwich, Blackheath and Bexley to name a few) communities and as far as Surrey.

Notability
Thanks! Doubting is prudent. The knitting world is a small place. What is notable in a larger industry and heavier impact on society in numbers is generally lost in the smaller numbers of the knitting circles, simply because there aren't that many people out there who knit and the subject is very niche. I would consider the shop and its activities notable for the following reasons:
 * Its yarns have been in reviews of the Knit Today, Simply Knitting Magazine and The Knitting Magazine for the past 12 months without a break - patterns and yarn reviews.
 * Several designers - namely Susie Jones, Jane Waller, Susan Crawford, Susana Wallis, Crissie Day, Theodora Burrow
 * The yarns are scheduled for a few more books, but that I intend to publish once the books are out...
 * I have put in references to books where the Yarn and the brand is named and used, some dating back as far as 2007
 * Julieta Brandao - the chief driving force behind the brand and the shop is a constant invitee to teach and present at industry shows - Knitting and Stitching Show (all 4 instances), Knitting and Creative Craft, the Wool Fest etc.

I am guessing the article does not do justice to the shop and the brand, however, you are right, my intention is to place the article on Wikipedia. I will be happy not to have an account/user name on, however it is my belief for the reasons stated in the sample article as updated in the talk pages and the above reasons that the brand and shop are notable enough to have a description in these pages.

With this I will leave it to the will of the reviewing editors (yourself included) to a) decide whether the account should be unblocked and b) if the notability of the shop/brand are of sufficient impact to deserve a mention in Wikipedia (by myself or in a different manner).

Thank you all for the candour of reviewing and responding to all my talks and continual attention to the issue.

Vladimir --Knitshop (talk) 10:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still not seeing anything that would allow the article to meet our WP:CORP notability criteria whatsoever. No reason to unblock unless you plan on editing other topics not related to your business. OhNo itsJamie Talk 17:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I have looked, and am not convinced that the article, or the business, meets our notability critrtia. But we are confusing two points here. Whether the business meets notability criteria or not, you, under a new user name, are not allowed to write about it. Do you accept this restriction? --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 15:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Notice that you've misunderstood the notability criteria. That yarn bought at this shop appears in a magazine doesn't show the notablity of the shop, unless the magazine also published an article about the shop.  That you have, yourself, discussed those yarns in your own books doesn't show the notability of the shop, but if someone else wrote a book about the shop, that would be a source we could use.  That the shop's founder often teachers at industry shows doesn't show the notability of the shop, but if the shop won a significant award, that would be something we could use.  In any case, it's better to let your many happy fans create the article than to create it yourself, because they, not having the inside information you have, will find it easier to rely on the available independent sources.. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you all! I believe the explanations here are quite clear. I would suggest that we close the issue, I will pursue the "fan base" suggestion. However, as (appreciatedly) the editors group is almost unanimous on the content I will give in to your views. Please proceed and remove all content and users therein. regards! --Knitshop (talk) 13:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The publications were made by the magazines not the shop or anyone related.
 * The books were published by designers with comments about the brand.