User talk:KnowledgeHegemonyPart2/Archive2

The Barnstar of Good Humor



 * I found that edit really funny. :) Trolls deserve those tongue-in cheek responses. :) =Nichalp   «Talk»=  16:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:Commonewealth of Nations
Hiya,

The colour scheme that you have reverted the template to is actually just the WP default navbox colours. I don't see anywhere that states it is the standard or required colour scheme for country-related navboxes. Unless you have something, I'll be changing it back. Thanks. Prince of Canadat 21:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Racism faced by Bihari Community in India
I have edited the article "Racism faced by Bihari Community in India" a bit and changed the title back to Racism faced by Bihari Community in India, based on the discussions here and here. Kindly discuss if you disagree. Manoj nav (talk) 09:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have done a few edits like -


 * Changed the line in the introduction - "Bihari communities living in other states have been subjected to a growing degree of prejudice and violence." to "Bihari communities living in other states have been subjected to a growing degree of racial discrimination, prejudice and violence." It's supported by references, which are secondary sources.


 * Changed the line in the introduction - "Biharis are often looked down upon" to "Biharis are often looked down upon and their accent is ridiculed."


 * Added comment by Indian journalist, Vir Sanghvi.


 * I have added few more references and will keep adding references. Manoj nav (talk) 17:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Film City
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North India
You have recently edited the article North India. The references, which I had cited to show that Bihar is in eastern India, have been deleted by you. I have added citation tags in the article. Kindly provide suitable references to justify your edits. Moreover the map shown there seems to be an original research. Manoj nav (talk) 16:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

re:Film city
A little tied up with some other articles to expand on this, but it's interesting that all these years there was no article on the subject. Could you carry on with the additions? it needs an infobox and more stuff. You can get it up to a DYK too. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  19:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposal
I have following proposals for Northern, Eastern and Central India's map. There are many references which say that Bihar is in eastern India. References-


 * Eastern India
 * Central India

Manoj nav (talk) 16:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Racism faced by Bihari community in India
You have changed the title to Violence against Hindi-speaking migrants in India. Discrimination_against_Biharis_in_India section don't talks about violence at all. Kindly refer the comments Talk:Violence_against_Hindi-speaking_migrants_in_India. So the title is not justified. Manoj nav (talk) 16:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for butting in! I believe it is the most appropriate title because 1) All the references point strongly to violence. 2) The violence is not against all people in general, it is rather against the migrants 3) It is not only Bihari migrants who are subject to this violence. Your POV pushing is against wikipedia policies and therfore I would advice you give up on this and concentrate on improving other articles as adviced by others.  Docku:  “what up?”  16:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Bihari languages are not Hindi
This map based on the reference - "Language families and branches, languages and dialects in A Historical Atlas of South Asia, Oxford University Press. New York 1992." has been titled "Distribution of Hindi languages" here. It claims that Bihari languages are Hindi, which is no more considered true. Bihari languages are not Hindi. Kindly refer articles on Bihari_languages, Maithili, Magadhi .. references are available there. If you need more references kindly let me know. Manoj nav (talk) 17:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

2008 attacks on North Indians in Maharashtra
Hi KnowledgeHegemonyPart2

I admire you efforts to compile the article 2008 attacks on North Indians in Maharashtra. There is a little problem with the title, which says attacks on north Indians. The fact is, the attack was just on the people from Bihar and UP (to be more correct it's Bihar and eastern UP). Kindly refer the article -. Even if we go by your definition of north India, which you have discussed atTalk:North_India, we find that the migrants from Rajasthan, Haryana, Punjab, Uttaranchal were not at all effected by the violence, which the title of this article otherwise suggests. Manoj nav (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Discrimination faced by the Bihari community in India
I am changing the title to a more acceptable one - "Discrimination faced by the Bihari community in India" for the time being. Kindly participate in the discussion here. Manoj nav (talk) 06:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hi.. Yes, real life has taken its toll.. Though I still do keep lurking around sometimes. Doesnt look I will be back to full fledged editing for a while though. Hope things are well with you — Lost (talk) 01:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
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No apology needed
It's all right. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 15:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Update from JSR
I'll be trying to bring up Indian astronomy to a fully sourced version in the near future (One-two days or sooner. I have a draft ready). If you can find time then please make sure to take a look. Also make sure to read Ayurveda; Its stable and fully sourced now. Best wishes, JSR (talk) 18:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Rewrite done. More work in progress. Have a look :-) JSR (talk) 21:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your vote of confidence in my work. I simply thought that 'hi-1' means the most advanced! I have made a change to 'user hi'. I will keep notifying you about my updates in the future.


 * Best wishes, JSR (talk) 11:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I just found that on Wikipedia Hindi has only two subcategories (beginner and native) compared to the numerous for English and Chinese languages! Wikipedia notation means that you either know your क् ख् ग् and speak fluently or else you are a beginner! I wonder what people who speak Hindi, Urdu with just a bit of English, and Hindi writing ability put on their pages. JSR (talk) 12:23, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I just logged in (caught the cold and thought I'd take it easy for some time) and saw your message. Thanks for the advice. I had a feeling too many people were using the same place and I might have interrupted a new user during the process so your advice certainly is a better option.


 * I hope you are having a pleasant time during the ongoing holidays.


 * Best wishes, JSR (talk) 22:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:
Thanks! I forgot I said that ;) Well, now I remember, so I guess it's fine ;) BlackPearl14 [ talkies!•contribs! ] 02:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

2008 Agartala bombings
I was out for a while and noticed that above article was created by you on Oct 1. Unfortunately, it didn't go through ITN, which should have been the case, you could have easily scored a DYK atleast. Anyways, keep up ! :-) -- gp pande   «talk»  08:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Ganging up on the ol' Talk Page
So, Lihaas comes and picks on me for no reason, and because I tell him to get lost, you feel the need to come pick on me as well? Sure I've heard of an honest typographical error, and never begrudged a few between friends. Ever heard of looking at an edit before sending a warning to block a fellow editor based on it? He way overstepped his boundaries, and I grumbled at him for it, and he grumbled at me back. Buzz off. -Fredgoat (talk) 01:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:History of Mumbai
Can you help me in beautifying Template:History of Mumbai. Altough I have expanded it a bit, but it looks messy and lenghty. Criteria of inclusion is a concern. That may be discussed. See what you can do. Thanks, Kensplanet  Talk  Contributions  10:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sachin in ITN.
I have left a message to Spencer. Hoping he will add it soon. Oh BTW, on India page, I had added 1993 Bombay blast link just to highlight the earlier part of the sentence in which I mentioned that such attacks came to prominence in 1990s. They were first such serial attacks which shook the country and has been a trend followed since. 2001 Parliament attack was added by me long back and was there for quite sometime. Moreover it's an FA. I am fine with the ULFA link removed. Didn't think of it. Right now thinking on Nichalp's question 15. It's is tough to crack. -- GP Pande  talk!  15:39, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

October 2008
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. ''Edit summaries like this are a violation of WP:NPA. Comment on content, not on contributor.'' Sarvagnya 19:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ''Read up on WP:SPAM before you start throwing around accusations like you did here. Sarvagnya 21:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)'' Sarvagnya 21:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Please do not template the regulars.  Docku: “what up?”  21:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Upper cloth revolt
Thanks for the suggestion. Wasnt that an interesting custom? or obnoxious or both ??  Docku: “what up?”  12:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/India (cat) (3rd nomination)
Please do not suggest merges at AFD. It is okay to talk about them in response to a nomination, but if you want to request a merge to begin with, AFD is not the place to go because a merge does not involve deletion ( the paper trail needs to be preserved). - Mgm|(talk) 00:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Aap Kaa Suroor 2 - Ae Himesh Bhai
Inre the AFD, The film has been made. You can watch the bloopers and download the music. I found it on Google. Definitely not WP:Crystal.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIV
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Yes, a false alarm.
I am not leaving WP and I think that I will never do so either. What I meant was that I have stayed away from that particular article. I have now changed the wording in userbox. Thanks for adding up the barnstar on my awards page. I really don't know how I missed that. Happy Diwali. -- GP Pande  talk!  09:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion of change
Hi - as you requested me to do, I have explained the following change I am making to this article at Talk:India - it is mainly editing, correcting of spelling mistakes and awkward grammar. If you are giving precise dates, you don't need "three years later" or "finally" (which sounds like someone telling a story). There aren't any particular changes in content, except I do want to change the "as per the wishes of the Muslim League" statement in regards to explaining the partition of India - it is quite misleading by itself and raises more questions than it answers. It would be more concise and accurate to say "at the same time Muslim-majority areas were partitioned to form a separate state of Pakistan." I hope this meets with approval - I will make the amends if there are no objections. Also, I am assuming that this article should be written as per Indian English or Commonwealth English, in which case words like "characterized" should be "characterised." S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) 07:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I rewrote the sentence because the latter part is awkward and unlike the rest of the article, the fact has not been cited. I found myself asking what is meant by "control them," given that violence always had terrible fallout in every case, "tolerance" can be directly disputed by the mobs involved. I'm not sure which "constitutional reforms" have been attempted and attributed to stop violence. What happens if something new happens tomorrow? Was that "controlled" through the "constitutional reforms" stated? Such an assertion would require a direct citation in my opinion. The more general statement I wrote of "India facing challenges" is much better in giving fact without inviting dispute. S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you. S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:India poll move
My opinion fits well with the current move. Not sure about others though? especially Dineshkannambadi. I guess he believes it is not UNDUE. Hope I am not wrong. Docku: “what up?”  17:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk India
Hi there KH2....I'm trying to understand the rearrangement of the options in the poll. Isn't Option 1.b basically the same as the "old" Option 1? The old Option 1 had about 5 people that had supported it; seems like the "new" 1.b only lists you atm. Is this an error? If so, could you reverse the edit? Nichalp pinged me asking me to revise the "old" Option 5...currently waiting to hear back from him on what needs to be done. In the interim, it would be good if we could retain the same structure as before. Your thoughts? Thanks AreJay (talk) 18:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha...no problem! So is option 5.b different from Option 1 then?  Is your objection based on UNDUE? If so, wouldn't it be the same as objecting under Option 1? Thanks! AreJay (talk) 18:29, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Aah I see...so #1 is objecting to including it in the infobox only, whereas 5.b is objecting to it being included in the article period. Got it!  Yes, it is rather confusing, but hopefully, we'll put an end to this debate shortly...there' light at the end of the tunnel :) Thanks AreJay (talk) 18:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Feedback
"But the biggest worry is that the great benefit of the open-source approach is also its great undoing. Its advantage is that anyone can contribute; the drawback is that sometimes just about anyone does. This leaves projects open to abuse, either by well-meaning dilettantes or intentional disrupters. Constant self-policing is required to ensure its quality."---The Economist, 3/18/2006. Taprobanus (talk) 13:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Userpage
No, a Wikipedia account should not be used by a group. You need to raise this on WP:AN. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  12:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Classical languages and other states
I love this. Please see my latest edit to Languages of India. Regards, Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  18:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

From user Weber regtrading the quick removal of literature on India
where are the books used including in the classrooms etc was the question so voila, here is the answer

PELINKA 146 Libraries in the USA first 10

1. Adelphi University Garden City, NY 11530 United States 2. Alibris Emeryville, CA 94608 United States 3. American University Washington, DC 20016 United States 4. Arizona State University Tempe, AZ 85287 United States 5. Arkansas State University - Jonesboro State University, AR 72467 United States 6. Austin College Sherman, TX 75090 United States 7. Bates College Library Lewiston, ME 04240 United States 8. Boise State University Boise, ID 83725 United States 9. Boston College Chestnut Hill, MA 02467 United States 10. Bowdoin College Brunswick, ME 04011 United States HESHMATI first 10 of 38:

1. Alibris Emeryville, CA 94608 United States 2. American University Washington, DC 20016 United States 3. Baylor University Libraries Waco, TX 76798 United States

4. Colorado State University Ft Collins, CO 80521 United States 5. Columbia University Libraries New York, NY 10027 United States 6. George Mason University Fairfax, VA 22030 United States 7. George Washington University Washington, DC 20037 United States 8. Georgetown University Washington, DC 20057 United States 9. Illinois State University Normal, IL 61761 United States 10. Indiana University Bloomington, IN 47405 United States  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franz weber (talk • contribs) 17:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Update from JSR
I have been trying to bring up mining in India to a fully sourced version and have made some progress. Make sure to take a look whenever you find time :-)  JSR   0562  20:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Sikh extremism
Hi KnowledgeHegemonyPart2, If you take a deep look into the article, I am simply re-structuring the article with a very little modification. Yes I am modifying the section names, but if you read thier information which I am re-structuring under these section names then you will notice that I am not disturbing their references, but I am simply aligning them and related text with the real sections/articles. The creators of this article are seperating Khalistan Movement into several sections and they are almost deleting their (these sections's) actual relations with Khalistan movement so that they could misguide the readers that Sikh Religion has some extremist problems which are scattered at the world level. But if we add 99% of these incidents under one section then it becomes a political section, i.e. Khalistan movement which already exist and even this movement is almost gone. Kindly note that their (These editors) distortion can also influence AfD. I remember I had sent some message to you long time ago. If you see my edit history, you will notice that I have never distorted information on Hinduism, Islam, Christianity etc ..related articles. And I do not feel comfort if some fundamentalists openely distort information about Human Rights and Sikhism, unless they have proofs/references. I will not edit it untill 10 hours from now so that you could read the version which I had created. Also, for your kind info.. I somehow knew that you will change your vote atleast once. I still hope that you will go back to your earlier decision.--Singh6 (talk) 08:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sir, If editors ask questions through edit summaries, then after receiving the answers, they give replies as well. Kindly change your attitude. I could have simply reverted your edit and 'could have simply replied in the dit summary as well, but I cared to listen to you and especially came to your talk page to talk personally. --Singh6 (talk) 04:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I would like to point out that too many 'ghost' votes have been asked to delete the article in order to sway the genuine outcome. I'd be grateful if you can look at the views of the admin(s) (Flewis, DJ Clayworth, and Yourself) who said they would like to keep the article and also examine the views of the extremists including many of the 117.*.*.* anons who obviously want it brushed under the carpet. There are many references from neutral sources. Thanks Satanoid (talk) 22:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protection issue
Hi - Based on advice given, I have initiated a discussion on the semi-protection issue at the village pump. Your opinion, now over the broader topic and not just India, will be most valuable. Shiva  (Visnu)  09:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, i call it stalking
As per your comments here, I thought it helpful to explain that a) there is no stalking on my part whatsoever, despite what the anon75. is claiming. The rfcu cleared them of being (at least) on e other user, and by admitting that (s)he is using almost two dozen IP addresses, they were able to sidestep accusations of sock-puppetry. That said, the anon was told in no uncertain or vague terms, by several admins, to register an account. The user doesn't, and its a pretty nifty way of avoiding anyone tracking your movements or bad behavior. If it is rather un-AGF to point out this user's past behavior, please understand that I've had eight months of negative interaction - most of it unsought - with this anonymous user. The well of Good Faith has long since run dry. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  06:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

History of Mumbai
There are a lot of missing gaps in the article which need to be cemented. As you have mentioned on the talk page..Cinema...Don't worry...Everything will be covered. Kensplanet Talk  Contributions  06:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you very much for your support. At present, I am not interested in involving myself in any activity than in closing live current discussions that I have been involved but I will surely consider your suggestion. Once again, thanks :-)- Ravichandar My coffee shop 07:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Excellent User Page Award
Your userpage is absolutely fantastic.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 11:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hey!
--  Tinu  Cherian  - 08:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi there!
Thanks for spotting the WP:OR error in my edit. The problem with "Other official languages," though, is that they are not "official languages of India," but in some cases of the states, and in other cases (like Sanskrit, Sindhi), just 8th schedule languages; India, however, is about the country. Perhaps we should simply change it to "Other languages." It would be the simplest solution, unless we can somehow change the first line to "Official languages of India:" Then  "Other official languages" will be fine. Anyway, these are my thoughts ... Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  19:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Comments on article you were involved in AFD debate
Hi there! You had participated in the AFD on Sikh Extremism. I've had some time to look into the article and commented on the talk page here. Thanks, --Road Ahead  =Discuss= 01:00, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Update from JSR

 * I will be expanding the Cartography of India article since I have an article by Joseph E. Schwartzberg (published by Springer Science+Business Media). Please make sure to take a look whenever you find time.
 * Rewritten the Indian Antarctic Program article and plan to further expand it. Please make sure to take a look whenever you find time.

With Best Wishes,  JSR   0562  13:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Just yesterday I remember watching 'Hotel by the Bay' (about the Taj) on Travel and Living. And now this. The world gets worse with every passing day it seems.  JSR   0562  15:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

(Smt) Sharda Sinha listed at RfD
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