User talk:Knowz/Archive/Jul-Dec2009

Article naming
Knowzilla - You know, I appreciated your bold proposal for a move of Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. However, judging by the responses already given to that idea, I do think that it's the whole naming policy that must be challenged, rather than each article individually; if the policy isn't changed, then people will just continue to point at it as a reason not to move a page. I personally feel the of [country] designation is, besides problematic, simply useless. What confusion is really caused by Juan Carlos I instead of Juan Carlos I of Spain? My suspicion is that the policies were established in Wikipedia's infancy, when there was little to no information about any personal unions, and people have lately been trying to retroactively justify the outdated rules with the argument that "oh, that's what [X] is most commonly known as..." Talk about POV! --Miesianiacal (talk) 19:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed all the POVs. I also noticed, going through the Category of reigning monarchs that some monarchs don't have their country name on their article titles. I agree that this policy need be changed. It's old and hasn't considered Monarchs who reign over more than one country equally. So, yes, lets update the policy first. --~ Knowzilla  (Talk)  19:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, Juan Carlos I of Spain is an article that bugs me. IMHO it should be John Charles I of Spain (or John Charles I), as the previous Spanish monarchs articles, use english names. GoodDay (talk) 21:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't really have an opinion on that, but if I were from Spain, Juan Carlos I would be more preferable than John Charles I, I guess. It's either make that one into English, or make the previous ones into Spanish. I think having Spanish monarchs article names in their Spanish form might be better, if it doesn't cause any problems. But, this is another issue. --~ Knowzilla  (Talk)  09:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)