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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Staraya_derevnya
Dear Kohlrabi Pickle,

Thank you for taking time to review the article. The current submission is based on the first criteria for artists and musicians: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself."

I believe that references 3, 4, 5 and 7 (just added) demonstrate that. These are not passing mentions, but rather full articles dedicated solely to the band, published by notable media such as The_Quietus, Brainwashed_(website), Louder_Than_War_(website) and Polskie_Radio.

All the best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hniu (talk • contribs) 09:58, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi there,, thanks for the response. I think these work. Just a note for the future: what would really help is if a publication did a profile of the band. If you ever see/hear of that pop up, it might be good to add that to the entry. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 10:50, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, Many thanks for approving the article! The capitalisation seems to be alright, no need to change. I will look for a publication with the band profile and update the entry when it pops up. Thanks again! 2A01:4C8:474:4D95:72AB:1D40:A306:BF5 (talk) 15:49, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Superb. I would advise you to figure out the capitalisation - the sources you've cited don't write "derevnya" in lower caps. Otherwise - best of luck! Hope to see that profile up too. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 15:54, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ram Govind Singh
Hi, I have just draftified an article which you had moved into main article space (earlier). Don't be in hurry. Let others build up the page with necessary citations. If you have any questions, then feel free to ask. Thank you. -Hatchens (talk) 07:56, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , For some moments, I thought that you "unnecessarily" draftified the article. I'm not able to assess the subject's notability per WP:NPOL, and there's no significant coverage available online. How would you address "someone who has been the chairman of a legislative assembly of a state multiple times". Still I'm not convinced by your move. ─  The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  08:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , then such entity must have some kind of "significant coverage". As of now, single-source verifiability is always a controversial thing on the wiki. The best what we can do is put a "promising draft" tag on it and let others chip in. Even if qualifies to a level of a stub with minimum "inline citations", then we can at least accept it and make it move to the main article space. - Hatchens (talk) 08:36, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for your message. Yesterday, I submitted a question to the AfC discussion page and was advised (including, helpfully, by ) that if it was more than 50% likely that a draft article met the notability criteria, that I should approve it and let users build it up in article space. This is how I reasoned the move: the source confirms that the subject was an elected legislator and three-time Chairman of the Bihar Legislative Council, which gives him a presumption of notability under WP:POLITICIAN. The source is a good one: the official website of the Bihar Legislative Council. Where did I go wrong? Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 15:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , currently, I would consider it a wiki draft with a single-source hindi language reference. Could you enhance the article with a few English language citations? The entity may pass WP:NPOL but there are other factors are also in play such as WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV, WP:RS and so on. - Hatchens (talk) 15:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I did search for other citations online before approving the article, but couldn't find any. I didn't see that as a problem because the source is a solid one: the official website of the state's legislature. Is there reason to doubt it? I cannot think why it would say that the subject was a legislator (and Chairman of the Council, no less) if he was not. It is an Indian legislature, so reasonable for the source to be in Hindi. To your points on WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV: an article doesn't have to satisfy both the general and subject-specific notability guidelines; one is enough. (WP:SNG) I'm still not clear on why this should not be moved into article space, when it has crossed all the required hurdles. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have seen your other articles' editing work. And, it's pretty impeccable. You know the drill, So just relax and give some time to it. For everyone's satisfaction, I have just added the "Promising Draft" tag to the draft and RfC tag to the draft's talk page. Allow others to add new details and citations. We have not reached consensus-derived subject-specific notability guidelines (WP:SNG). It's not about what you think or I think... it's all about reaching a consensus. Please keep patience. - Hatchens (talk) 01:56, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , thank you for the compliment. I'm not clear on what mistake I've made (or even if I've made one at all), but I understand that you'd prefer to be cautious. That's fair enough. I'm happy to let the RfC run its course and let a decision be made on that basis. I'll add my view there, thanks. Kohlrabi Pickle (talk) 02:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)