User talk:Koman90/Archive 2

Possibly unfree File:Universal Contactless Card Symbol.svg
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SVG images
Hi, I think it is safe to say we all appreciate you efforts, but: What is the point of converting a .png file to a .svg?!?!? The point of an .svg is to have a "pure" image, sort of like having the source code of a program. But... if you don't have the source/SVG in the first place, then what exactly are you trying to do??? You can never get the "source" of an image by converting a .PNG. If you can get an .SVG from the developers (or from another place), then fine, we would love to have it here, but... converting a PNG to SVG is just completely pointless (at least in this case), and we even get a worse file. Don't get me wrong, your contributions are welcomed, but please don't convert bitmap files to SVG, that is not how things work. Regards, --SF007 (talk) 23:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to agree, the images you are creating are of worse quality. Please do not trace images unless you have a exteremly high quality image as your base. Another thing I have noticed is that you can find "true" vector versions of many of the images you uploaded at http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/ perhaps you might want to consider converting the files from there and upload them to Wikipedia. --Svgalbertian (talk) 16:33, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood i will try to cut back on this and only convert to svg where it benefits file size and image quality. I guess i got a bit carried away since i just learned how to do this. this point on i will ojny convert immages that have a shloud be svg tag. Koman90 A+ (talk) 23:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I honestly do not recommend ever tracing any logo based on the file on Wikipedia, even if it has a Should Be SVG tag. You should find a vector version of the logo, be it from http://www.vector-logos.com/ http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/ or a PDF you find from the companies home page. --Svgalbertian (talk) 00:24, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You latest images you uploaded are much better! Don't forget to list the source of where you got the image. (also consider uploading using "The logo of an organization, brand, product, public facility, or other item" section of the upload form as it uses the latest templates) --Svgalbertian (talk) 23:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, i'veben taking your advice and looking for a vector-type source file, or a PDF, and your right the quality is outstanding!, I never would have i figured it out on my own, i wloud still be tracing bitmaps right now if it weren't for you. BTW I've gone back and updated some of my own using the converted PDF and EPS logos, and they look 10x better thanks again I totally owe you one.Koman90 A+ (talk)  03:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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Please edit and reupload the new version of Windows Server 2008 R2 logo
Your vector graphic file was converted directly from bitmap file, without tweak. It didn't get normal quality (poor color). You can see an example, a image considered good quality.
 * Sorry i can't get the image to look any better i don't know how to tweak it Koman90, A+ (talk) 18:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Your odd edits
I suppose there's some reason why you've chased after the userpage edits of User:The Man in Question and systematically broken the image used in the template he inserted, without leaving any clear indication on the users page as to why you have done this. Perhaps you'd like to explain? Sane message left. Barking edit with misleading edit comment. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just coming here to say the same thing, you have assumingly, incorrectly reverted edits to a template on users talkpages. I would suggest you undo them unless you have a reason for having done so. -DJSasso (talk) 02:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Invalid service awards

 * the edits your referring to are due to fraudulent use of high level service awards as detected by AWB so they should not and will not be reverted by me.Koman90 A+ (talk) 02:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * They are not fraudulent use at all. It's a template which is notifying users of the change in the requirements of service awards. I will ask you again to kindly revert them, otherwise I will consider it disruptive and point editing. -DJSasso (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok i will the locations in question immediately Koman90 A+ (talk) 02:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What DJSasso said. It's an advisory template. If you are unwilling to revert your edits, I'll arrive at the conclusion that you should not have the keys of AWB. Accusing editors of fraud - which is what, inter alia, you are doing, is a very serious accusation and one that you are not in a position to substantiate in this instance, since you're dealing with a frikking template. Don't you even read the pages you're editing. Sheesh. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:28, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Sir i was reading the pages i was editing but this last batch ad arox 30 internal links, and i have seen locations where these template have been "cloned" to be in a misleading format, i pleged when i got AWB that i wloud take full responsibility for all actions AWB brought to my attention, and i am taking responsiblity.
 * Saying "so they cannot and will not be reverted by me" is hardly "taking responsiblity" for your screw-up. But I presume you'll now clear up your mess? --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm an A+ certified tech i can make it go back faster than it hapened! :) Koman90 A+ (talk) 02:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a lot of experience of computer support techs. Nothing that has happened here tonight has surprised me ;) BTW, as far as I know there's been a regrading of service awards - hence TMIB's template messages. Quite how AWB takes that into account is beyond me, but I tend to doubt the algorithm right now. Still. You get 20 or so more edits than you'd otherwise have got. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

After review i found It was rely a combination of my own program to import a link list, from the file page and awb together that did it., as of now they all should be back to normal, thank you for your patience during the revert process ;) Koman90 A+ (talk) 02:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't read all of the above, so sorry if I am telling you what you already know: [] for example, zaps the template award image, but doesn't touch the awards on the users main page to which s/he is not entitled. Just a heads up. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Additionally, users are allowed to give themselves any 'award' they want, regardless of the 'requirements', so there is no such this as an 'invalid' award. Prodego  talk  01:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, but if it says "Due to the current time constraints no wikpedian has this award" and then you se twenty pepole listed on there and you had AWB and were tying to use it on a netbook you wloud probably make the same mistake i did.

Apology
'''Cloud everyone please just leave me alone on this one and stop adding unnecessary input, I apologize for my actions, I tried to read the articles that I was editing but the amount of markup and size of my screen interfered. I was Trying to use AWB on a 10" screen at 1024x576 and couldn't read everything clearly, plus it was like 9:00PM locally'''Koman90, A+ (talk) 06:33, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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HP Logo
SIR – At the top of this page is a charge to “be polite, assume good faith, avoid personal attacks and be welcoming;” indeed!

As an employee of HP who works in marketing, I found the 3D logo to be a poor fit for the article.

The 3D logo isn’t used company-wide, but rather by the PSG division, initially as a part of the “the computer is personal again” campaign.

The 2D logo I provided was converted directly from an internal marketing PNG and is not only official, but of excellent quality. And, while you suggested it “doesn’t even look official,” it’s used quite regularly.

The 3D logo is of poor quality – the gradients do not match those of the actual 3D logo and the shadowing (along of the right side of the P’s descender, for instance) is totally off. Can more detail really be a good thing when it’s not the right detail?

The total effect is that we wouldn’t be willing to use the current 3D logo on any of our marketing material; it lacks polish.

If you have access to HP’s internal site, there is a wealth of material on the proper representation and use of different expessions of the HP logo. Also, accurate, official and high quality examples of the logo can be found.

As an addendum: I didn’t appreciate the tone of your message. I can assure you that nothing was “deliberately” disobeyed. The article doesn’t belong to you and contributions shouldn’t be responded to with hostility. Longevity at Wikipedia is not indicative of ability, taste or talent.--More Coreyander (talk) 07:39, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes i see you are accusing me of a personal attack but you did not even discuss a logo change on this article when changing logos with this drastic of a change unless it makes any "visible improvement" we usually come to a consensus on the article talk page, now when i said it "doesn't even look official" i meant the way it was displayed, there is no transparency around the circle for one, for two if you did use the company intranet you sourced your work wrong and cited brands of the world. The reason i was so perturbed was it took months of effort and work with my peers to get the 3d logo in there" and when you say the logo's shadowing dose not match, it is converted directly from an EPS as you did so there is no error, i have a computer where i see this logo at boot up so i know what it looks like, this particular logo is used on many desktop PCs thus i would see a point in keeping it here. now wyour 2 dimensional logo would go good replacing the older rectangular one at HP Enterprise Services due to the copratewide "shedding" of the rectangle, however i believe the 3d logo better represents the consumer brand. "when I said "delebratly" disobeyed the instructions there were inline notes asking to not downgrade the immage and you went and proceed anyway, without even notifying the author of the image, me, i loud expect at least that much and i would have done that for someone else, especially since there was a note. --Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 01:30, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

No, not of a personal attack, but certainly of an intemperate tone.

If a lack of transparency is a problem for you, you could go ahead and add some.

Whilst I did read that you converted directed from an EPS, my comments about the gradient and the shadowing stand. Here is a link to actual 3D logo (again from the company intranet):



I’m sure you can spot the many differences. The shadowing simply is not parallel with the letters -- which is wrong and unpolished. I can supply you with a larger version of the above if you’d like to convert it to an SVG.

A note on usage... the article Hewlett-Packard covers the entire company and their broad product portfolio. Only a small slice of the company and its business are in the consumer space; this is the PSG (Personal Systems Group) division. The 3D logo as used is essentially representative of this division only. You won’t see it used in our marketing materials towards businesses, for example.

So I agree with you that the 3D logo better represents the consumer brand, but would point out that the article is not limited to that topic.

As for inline notes... I don’t see them even now. But clearly downgrading is subjective.--More Coreyander (talk) 09:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

That version looks similar to that of my older traced version i did notice that there are two version going around, a "glossy" version and a "dull" version, the reason i changed it is quality issues, any input you have is welcomed at this point. i apologize for the tone, being a student, an netwirk admin, a volunteer for an animal support orginization, and a wikipedian all at once is quite stressful. :| --Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 02:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Uei-logo.svg
Just giving you a notice that File:Uei-logo.svg is up for speedy deletion because it is an orphaned fair-use image. Because of WP:NFCC, all non-free content must at least be used in one article. Please let me explain why I orphaned it. I noticed that it was an SVG, but it looked blurry (and for simple text, the file size was 111kb). After looking at it at 2000px, it was clear to me this was an autotrace of sorts. We gained nothing by going the SVG route. The raster artifacts were just duplicated. No more detail was added, and the file size was 30 times as large. Therefore, I restored the GIF, as it was an appropriately smaller file size, clearer, and a better representation of the logo. I'd urge you, in the future, when dealing with non-free content such as official logos, to source that content from official sources. I'll start looking to see if we can't track down a vector logo from the University, but an SVG conversion such as this actually deteriorates quality, while increasing file size. Hope this explains what I did. If you have any questions, I'd be glad to discuss this further. Thank you. -Andrew c [talk] 23:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Why did you undo my change with no edit summary or response here? -Andrew c [talk] 15:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, what was your source for File:Google talk logo.svg? It looks off from the official logos I have seen. -Andrew c [talk] 15:38, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * sorry about that i sikkmed over you message and though it was a standard message saying it is orphaned. and the gtalk is from brand of the world, coveted directly from a cdw source file, i cloud see if Google has the same file but i will cite the source immediately.--Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 16:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Cool deal, no problems. My issue with the google logo is a) the bottom right point on the K has been cut off/cropped (not big by itself) but more importantly b) the word bubble is off. Look at say this, and notice how the right part of the bubble has a gap in it vs. ? I've never seen the google talk logo without the gab in the word bubble, which made me wonder where you got it from. Anyway, that's all. Carry on! -Andrew c [talk] 16:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

just curious
what your reasoning was behind welcoming a trolling sockpuppet..and now that I look at it, several others. Custom is to only welcome accounts that get used for editing. Excessive welcoming of users who have made no contributions has been seen as disruptive in the past.--Crossmr (talk) 03:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I was unaware that they were sock puppets and i was also unaware that standards were only to welcome users who have made an edit. I had welcomed them because they were on the account creation log, i had exported the page to text, converted it to a spreadsheet, removed some stuff, got a list of just their talk pages, saved it, converted it back to text then used awb to welcome them to wikipedia. I don't see how welcoming a user to wikipedia can be disruptive, after all if they created the account they wanted to edit and learn about editing, honestly i wish my welcome message was put in as quickly as i can do this, when i started because i had no clue what to do next, i only find it helpful to the user. Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 03:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * there are a ton of accounts that are created which are blatant socks, junk, never used, etc. In the past when this has come up the standard has been only to welcome accounts that make edits in article space.--Crossmr (talk) 05:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, i twill sop welcoming in this method, or if i continue to use this method i will further refine my results by, finding an automated way to check edit counts at the same time. Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 14:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

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WikiProject Java
Hi Charles. I recently realized that WikiProjects were putting Images/Files in their assessment stats and therefore we would need it also (tagging on some English Wikipedia talk pages with the banner). There are 2 sources of Java images: Is that something you can do (with AWB I guess)? If so, don't hesitate to ask for any clarification before doing it. -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  21:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * English Wikipedia pages in the File: namespace having a Category:Java platform tag or a subcategory thereof;
 * Commons images: since those files are mostly not 'categorized' in English Wikipedia, they would have to be tagged with the banner on their English Wikipedia talk page BASED on their Commons page having a Category:java (programming language) tag or a subcategory thereof, and ONLY if they are in use (they have a backlink in English Wikipedia).
 * yes i can do that, ill get right ton it, it'll be done in about 15 min at most. Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 21:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but I'm not on the list for commons, and even if i was AWB isn;t smart enough to create a talk page. but it sounds to me like you need someone who has the keys to awb on commons, or i can try doing what i did to Weldon users and assemble a list of paces to create.Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 21:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * never mind i figured out how to do it, here we go! Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 21:29, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, it's done, at least for first layer, working on recursive right now, for your first criteria it did not work as the files are all hosted on commons, however the second did work i was unaware that the AWB list had a "convert to/form talk page option" for i populated the list from commons and logged in to English Wikipedia, and attached the banner to all back-linked files it is now there on all of them, if you need anymore automated edits done please do not hesitate to ask me. Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 21:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

It's Competly Done! i successfully flagged over 300 images' talk pages on the English Wikipedia as being maintained by WP java


 * The total seems to be more like 266 files (the Commons files)... And that's great! Thanks for that. But I find it strange that no English Wikipedia (not in Commons) file was picked up. I can't check that right now because CatScan does not work correctly: http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=java+platform&basedeep=99&mode=iul&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  23:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I have a small concern with Category:Image-Class Java articles in that as many of the files are hosted on Commons, the talk pages could possibly be deleted under the CSD G8 criteria. --Tothwolf (talk) 22:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, well, a man raised from the dead; I thought you were blocked; seems you've got 9 lives mister Tothwolf. As for your concern here, I think the second phrase of their definition excludes that possibility, so you should sleep well tonight. Remember you're still on the WP payroll, so if you want to contribute to the Cleanup Listing backlog for example... -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  23:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, it was just an unjustified 48 hour block (which can be read about in detail elsewhere). I've largely not been contributing since whenever I do a handful of editors had taken to following my edits to make trouble for others. I certainly wish I got paid to edit...I've put in the hours and it might entice me to finally photograph 1000s of technology and computing-related things and upload them to commons ;P --Tothwolf (talk) 01:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Tothwolf the talk pages would not apply to G8 because it their dependent page, the file, is on the commons, thus it has a local description page. Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 00:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * the 266 was just one batch another was ~60 Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 00:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You might want to watchlist some of those talk pages just to be safe. I've seen a great many of them deleted in the past as G8. --Tothwolf (talk) 01:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice however it is not needed at this time. --Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 01:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

If you wanted i cloud also setup auto archive o those talk pages or do anything like that if you need but i don't see anything left tat needs to be done with these talk-pages. I think That Ends This Thread. Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 01:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Transcluding subpages to user talk
Hi. I see you do your own templates - at least User:Koman90/templates/now-svg. I do that, too. :) There's a pitfall to transcluding rather than substituting, though, that I don't know if you've encountered. Besides the fact that if you ever change that template it will change on every page it's linked to, it creates the odd situation of making the "edit" button to the section edit your subpage. I typically place user talk notices by editing the section above rather than opening the whole page, and I very nearly left you a note inadvertently when trying to leave one for User:MER-C...which then, of course, would have been left for every contributor for whom you've left that notice. If you do prefer to transclude rather than substitute, you might want to consider manually creating section headers to avoid that. And if you start getting notes there intended for others, well, that will probably be why. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, P.S.: another factor to consider, if they're transcluded, they won't archive either. The bots that do autoarchiving will not register their timestamps. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you i'll use the substitute prefix from now on i just didn't know about this and thought it was easier.

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Hi again Charles. Like you know now, I recently realized that WikiProjects were putting Images/Files in their assessment stats and therefore we would need it also for my other project (tagging on some English Wikipedia talk pages with the banner). Is that something you can do (with AWB I guess)? If so, don't hesitate to ask for any clarification before doing it. Thanks, -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  03:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The images are in Commons: since those files are mostly not 'categorized' in English Wikipedia, they would have to be tagged with the banner on their English Wikipedia talk page BASED on their Commons page having a Category:Industrial design tag (no subcategories please) OR a Category:Computer Aided Design (no subcategories) OR a Category:Furniture by designer (&subcategories) OR a Category:Furniture design (&subcategories) OR a Category:Furniture manufacturers (&subcategories), and only if they are in use (they have a backlink in English Wikipedia).


 * I will get to that as soon as possible i have a jury summons today but i will do it as soon as i get back, that is assuming they don't pick me :) --Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 14:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll have to do it tomorrow, the picked me but didn't use me, so i just got home and it's 9:22 PM here. Oh well, at least I won't have to do that again for another year.--Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 05:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't stress yourself with that Charles, it's not THAT urgent!... -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  06:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * AWB cannot check use of commons media at the same time as editing wikipeida, i can either do all or none.


 * OK Charles, if I understand you well, let's say I modify our demand that way (see above). Now you can do it, right? -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  01:39, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure can i'll get started Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 02:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * On a different note maybe you cloud help me, i couldn't help but notice after your request for wikiproject java that you are a Java programmer, you see, my user page has a status indicator which uses the states changer or Qui javascript, however for some reason it is not yet compatible with the beta of Wikipedia. I as failing in the programing department have decided to help that field to the best of my ability by becoming a quality assurance tester as you may notice on my main page. is there any way that you or one of the other wikiprojrct Java members cloud adapt a status changer script to the new beta? I used to know a little java, c++, and basic but i only knew input/output, and logic operators once it got into loops it confused the heck out of me Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 02:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean... and I don't: I gather you are talking about the upper-right corner of your user/talk page where it says 'Status: Offline' (blinking) and a red light. Incidentally, that caught my eye when I first got to your page. Now Charles, I tried it with both Firefox 3 and IE 7, in regular and Beta mode, I even changed your status to sleep (forgive me) and I don't see a problem (but I'm not using Qui). Is there something else to see? If not and you have a difference in Beta, I would hypothesize that would be due to a difference in your Preference settings maybe. Which browser do you use? -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  04:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have tried all there, IE8, Firefox 3.6, and chrome and even the alpha of firefox, including previous versions, when i sign into beta qui and statuschnger disappear when i opt out they re-appear. By the way i finished your request the total edit count is ~1,000 files Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 04:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry I thought you were talking about a server-side script. OK now its clearer, you're talking about statuschanger.js, a script that is incorporated in your client-side flow. First I don't use that script. Second, the most logical thing to do would be to ask the author, Misza13... As for the tagging, it's totally great! But I discovered one slight problem: I told you about a Category:Computer Aided Design but it's really Category:Computer Aided Design (CAD). So these were not tagged (no subcategories please)... Thanks again, -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  04:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Your welcome, anytime y semi-autmated edits can be of assistance, after this i will be taking a wikibrake though so if you do need anythin send me an email as i might not repsnd for a couple of weeks, i am studying for the CompTIA Network + Exam # N10-702.


 * OK good for you, I hope you pass it with flying colors! But in the meantime, could you finish this thing please (Category:Computer Aided Design (CAD))... -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  19:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry about it taking so long, i was trying to solve the issue with qui and apparently the beta dose not use the monobook.js page but rather vector.js, Koman90 (talk), A+ (Verify) 14:30, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Great job, now I'm leaving you in peace, with your Exam... -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  05:01, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hello again Charles, hope your studies are well. Since you're online I was wondering what you thought about this request I wrote recently to a talented young man doing stuff with AWB:
 * There could possibly be one extra auto-tagging for you, but I don't know if it's doable with AWB; it's related to the fact that ID started recently a new Design portal related to ID, Interior design, and Graphic design. Therefore, for the pool of all articles having either:
 * a) a banner on their talk page OR
 * b) a Category:Interior design tag (or subcategory) on their page:
 * 1) IF not present, put this line in its proper place in the article:
 *  ==See also== 
 * 2) Then put this line (IF not present) under the See also section (which will by then always exist by virtue of 1)...)
 * Is that something that can be done? (For GD we'll let them do their own stuff).
 * Is that something that can be done? (For GD we'll let them do their own stuff).

The answer came back as: No, I don't know how to do that, it's too difficult. And you Charles? -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  04:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I can do B and below but on 1 it dose not give me an option of there to put it other then append / perpend. And my exam went verry well i passed with 814 out of a possible 900 and a required 720, still awaiting my eCert kit though Koman90 (talk), Network+ 14:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Ya, I know cert exams, I did the whole Java suite (Programmer, Developper, Web, Mobile, Architect...). Congratulations. Now about that AWB job; I want to tell you I'm not asking out of laziness, but they denied me rights so far because of 'not enough edits'. So your collaboration is precious. I had downloaded AWB some times ago (version 4.9.0.2) and I took a look at it today (even though I can't actually use it) and therefore I will hypothetize on its usage. First, let's discard a) tagging for the time being. That leaves b). I see you're thinking in terms of Append/Prepend but I don't think in this case it's the whole way to go. I see there's a Find and replace function; so step 1) would be broken down in three passes:
 * PASS 1A) If: ==See also (or == See also) is not present (case insensitive) in the article, find (case insensitive): ==References (or == References) or ==Notes (or == Notes) and replace it with the same string as found, putting BEFORE it:
 * ==See also==
 * PASS 1B) If: ==See also (or == See also) is not present (case insensitive) in the article, find (case insensitive): ==Further reading (or == Further reading) or ==External links (or == External links) and replace it with the same string as found, putting BEFORE it:
 * ==See also==
 * PASS 1C) If: ==See also (or == See also) is not present (case insensitive) in the article, APPEND
 * ==See also==
 * THEN step 2) as specified above. The 3 passes are needed (and in that order) because of the way sections are (or should be) layed out in articles. Does that sound reasonable? --  AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  19:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * sure using find/replace feature sound like a good solution. i'll work on this the next chance i get Koman90 (talk), Network+ (Verify) 20:07, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Charles, I just now have seen some troublesome results of what you tried to do so far (example:Art_Workers_Guild). There are several problems with what you did. Obviously I did not write the instructions as clear as should be, your knowledge of AWB (or mine) is not good enough, or both. If you don't understand the logic of what I was saying and how to apply it, I think it will be better to postpone this and even revert the changes please (some of them were already reverted by a good samaritan). -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  18:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed i stopped in the middle of the 2nd or 3rd pass because i noticed this problem, and i's wired because i thought i put everything in correclyKoman90 (talk), Network+ (Verify)
 * sure using find/replace feature sound like a good solution. i'll work on this the next chance i get Koman90 (talk), Network+ (Verify) 20:07, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Charles, I just now have seen some troublesome results of what you tried to do so far (example:Art_Workers_Guild). There are several problems with what you did. Obviously I did not write the instructions as clear as should be, your knowledge of AWB (or mine) is not good enough, or both. If you don't understand the logic of what I was saying and how to apply it, I think it will be better to postpone this and even revert the changes please (some of them were already reverted by a good samaritan). -- AlainR345  Techno-Wiki-Geek  18:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed i stopped in the middle of the 2nd or 3rd pass because i noticed this problem, and i's wired because i thought i put everything in correclyKoman90 (talk), Network+ (Verify)

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-- Thank you, sill working on quality, i believe that was because it was an internal mic and the laptop's fan and a sick fan in the same room were on during the recording, and i was using my netbook. All factors contributing to the overall quality. Koman90 (talk), Network+ (Verify) 16:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
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