User talk:Konguhead

Welcome!
Hi Konguhead! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.

As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:

Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia page covers the same topics.

If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:

If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date.

Happy editing! - SUN EYE 1  15:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Association of kongu

Concern regarding Draft:Malai Gounder
Hello, Konguhead. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Malai Gounder, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:04, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Malai Gounder


Hello, Konguhead. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Malai Gounder".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

May 2022
Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. - SUN EYE 1  15:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * It's our community's page. All refs are provided in gowda, kongu vellalar and vokkaliga page. It's just similar term of "Gowda" word. Konguhead (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello Konguhead, you do not WP:OWN the page. You need to cite WP:RELIABLE SOURCES for your additions. Original research is not allowed.- SUN EYE 1  16:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Gounder, you may be blocked from editing. - SUN EYE 1  16:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowda_(surname) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gounder is title used by warrior classes. What kind of proof do u need? Konguhead (talk) 16:35, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No WP:OR or WP:CIRCULAR please. Need reliable WP:SECONDARY or WP:TERTIARY sources. I personally do not need any "proofs", those articles are on my watchlist. Your content additions and removals looks like WP:POV pushing which is prohibited in Wikipedia. - SUN EYE 1  16:47, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Look, this article has many mistakes and citations needed. Pls remove the sections which doesn't have citations and refs. Also, Our organization don't need to provide false refs. If u need verified refs, pls read the Gowda and Vokkaliga page.
 * Pls read this too...
 * 1. https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/The_Warrior_Merchants/y089AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=gounder+warrior&pg=PA162&printsec=frontcover
 * 2. https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Communities_Segments_Synonyms_Surnames_a/bfAMAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=gounder+kshatriya&dq=gounder+kshatriya&printsec=frontcover
 * Gounder means protector of the country. Gowda is derived from kavunda and which translated in kannada. These name are belongs to kshatriya (Warrior ruling) communities of tamilnadu. Konguhead (talk) 17:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:OR, content you add must be explicitly backed by reliable sources. What do you mean by "our organization"? Do you work for an organisation to edit Wikipedia? - SUN EYE 1  17:24, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I meant Tamil wikipedia organzation. Pls kindly look Tamil version of Gounder article. I can't explain you with kind words anymore. If you doesn't know anything about the south Indian communities, then why do u take responsible of those pages? Konguhead (talk) 18:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * , please focus on the content of articles, and on verifiability. Assumptions about the knowledge of other users are inappropriate in a verifiability discussion, as personal knowledge is irrelevant on Wikipedia. This has already been pointed out in this section here, with a link to WP:No original research. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There's no original research. It's based on Wikipedia articles and verified journals. Please stop imposing these titles on me. I respect all Wikipedia editors and Wikipedia's editorial team. Also, I won't gain anything from these. I just recorrecting the mistakes with the verified sources. Kindly, please remove the line that doesn't have citations at Gounder. Konguhead (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I may be nitpicky when taking this specific statement out of your entire message, but "based on Wikipedia articles" in response to verifiability concerns does not sound like actual understanding: Wikipedia articles are user-generated content and thus not usable as a base. Regarding respect for other users, that's nice to hear, but the point of my message was to point out a lack of such respect in the message I replied to. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know why do I smile. Still, I just want to improvise the articles with the verified sources. Some of the lines of the page doesn't have valid citations and valid resources. Those pages should be translated by tamil version of the pages to avoid misconception. You may use "Translate to English" to read the tamil version கவுண்டர், கொங்கு வேளாளர் and வொக்கலிகர்.
 * Counter(If google translate the word கவுண்டர்) = Gounder Konguhead (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You are doing it again. Please note that the content you add must be explicitly in the sources. You have searched "gounder warrior" in google books and added two sources, none of them back the content you added. You have added unsourced content again in this edit. I have removed the content you were trying to remove for lack of verifiability.
 * If they were to be translated then the sources must be verified before the content is added here. - SUN EYE 1  05:57, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I know you gonna do this again. Now pls see this ref, It was added into vokkaliga. Konguhead (talk) 08:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You've added the same again and removed sourced content without any explanation. You were told many times above that the content you add must explicitly present in the source. - SUN EYE 1  11:19, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No. I didn't. Believe me. Konguhead (talk) 12:51, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you explain where is the source backs the statement "Gounder' is a title used by kshatriya communities in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu". The source is about "GAVUNDAS" in Southern Karnataka and not "Gounder" in Tamil Nadu. You were reminded that content you add must be explicitly backed by the sources. Why did you remove content in that edit? - SUN EYE 1  13:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls remove "Vanniyar" and replace the word "Kshatriya communities" instead of "various communities". Gounder is an honorific title which belongs to warrior and ruling classes only. Goundan aka kavundan, kaaminda, gounder, and gowdas. These all are etymology of gounder.
 * According to the tamil version, they written "gounder is territorial kings and dynastic rulers who protected the land and its people" with the valid refs and cites. I hope you may get clear idea from tamil versions. Konguhead (talk) 08:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Important notice
- SUN EYE 1  16:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Konguhead. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

June 2022
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia. - SUN EYE 1  05:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I think it's your personal vengeance. I can't help with your misunderstandings. If you've problem with Tamil pages, give your responsibility of the page to the one who knows Tamil history. Otherwise, It'll create a confusion only. Konguhead (talk) 08:45, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You added the word "kshatriya" in this edit which is not present in the source and also removed content with no explanation. Moreover, the source uses the word "GAVUNDAS" in Karnataka and not Tamil Nadu. You were told about WP:OR many times.- SUN EYE 1  13:39, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @ToBeFree I tried to explain my best. The user doesn't seem to get it. This is one of the common POV pushing I see in caste articles, every caste wants to put themselves into Kshatriya varna.- SUN EYE 1  13:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Obviously. That's why we are here to prevent these kinds of activities. Vokkaliga has Gowda and Gounder as their surname. This is what tamil communities have for them. Gavunda is a tamil word. Gavundas or kavundas which denotes protector of the land and its people. Gowdas and gounders are belong to Ganga dynasty. Please read the page Vokkaliga. Read the article about origin of Gowda and Gounder.
 * Gowda - an honorific denotes to who rules or protects land in Kannada language.
 * Gounder - an honorific denotes to who rules or protects land in Tamil language.
 * Gowda, gouda, kavundan, goundan, gounder, and these all titles derived from Gavunda or Kavunda after some periods of time due to cultural modernization.
 * Kshatriya means "Warrior or ruler". If you doesn't know anything about South Indian communities, please know about them first or bring a person who knows about south indian history. Otherwise it's waste of time to debate.
 * For brief details, See Gounder meaning Konguhead (talk) 14:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * "If you doesn't know anything about South Indian communities, please know about them first or bring a person who knows about south indian history. Otherwise it's waste of time to debate."
 * Wrong. As I have attempted to explain to you before at 18:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC), personal knowledge is irrelevant in such discussions. Focus on verifiability of content, not the knowledge of editors. Stop making assumptions about knowledge, as it is irrelevant. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:53, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not the knowledge. It's the history.
 * 1. Who are Gounders? (கவுண்டர்) - From nonprofit academic site. If you know tamil, It's better. They were small territorial kings, polygars and chieftains. It describes The Govindhan 111 (A.D. 803) was a Kammundan or Gammundan and how these words modified later periods of the time. It was kaamunda or Gammunda and then it modified as Gammunda - Gamminda - Gavunda - Gounder (or Gowda in kannada language) (காமுண்ட - காமிண்ட - கவுண்ட - கவுண்டர்).
 * 2. Gammundas were rulers of the ganga dynasty
 * 3.Kaalingarayan (A.k.a Lingaya Gounder) - Who independently ruled kongunadu and built Kalingarayan Anicut (1283)
 * There are many other refs and cites to strengthen the page. Pls kindly understand the etymology of tamil and kannada. Konguhead (talk) 02:11, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * None of your personal analysis matters here. The sources must explicitly back the content. Why did you remove content in the same edit? Please do not use misleading edit summaries like you did here.- SUN EYE 1  04:33, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not your personal space to disagree or agree the history. You're just arguing rather than read the refs. Please revert the page, or rewrite the page with help of tamil version of Gounder (கவுண்டர்). Gowda and Gounder denotes "Headmen" meaning. It used by warrior classes only.
 * 1. Lingasysamy Gounder - a Cheiftain who ruled Kongu Nadu.
 * 2. Kempe Gowda I - a Cheiftain who ruled Bangalore
 * 3. Theerthagiri Gounder- a Polygar who governed th Kongu nadu under the vijayanagara empire
 * 4. Who are Gounders? (கவுண்டர்) - From nonprofit academic site. If you know tamil, It's better. They were small territorial kings, polygars and chieftains. It describes The Govindhan 111 (A.D. 803) was a Kammundan or Gammundan and how these words modified later periods of the time. It was kaamunda or Gammunda and then it modified as Gammunda - Gamminda - Gavunda - Gounder (or Gowda in kannada language) (காமுண்ட - காமிண்ட - கவுண்ட - கவுண்டர்).
 * 5. Gammundas were rulers of the ganga dynasty
 * These all are backed by inscriptions and copper plates. Konguhead (talk) 07:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Konguhead! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of an article several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. - SUN EYE 1  04:53, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the Info. You're one here who can't understand the history and facts. All south Indians do know what's the meaning of the gounder and gowda in their mother tongue. In English versions, many confusions are there. That's why we requesting you to cooperate with us.
 * I hope you understand my concern. Best Regards, an unbiased a historian! Konguhead (talk) 07:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - SUN EYE 1  17:41, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Stop hand nuvola.svg Your recent edits to Malayali (tribe) could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. M.Bitton (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC) the legal threat was made months ago. M.Bitton (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * You're late,, the threat was made last year. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:11, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know (as I didn't pay attention to the date). I have also self-reverted. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks and no worries. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Obviously, you two are threating me. I was discussing about the history. You two are keep posting the shit against me. If you wanna threat me, I'll give my social profiles. I don't wanna spoil the reputation of Wikipedia with some dumbs intentional bad behavior. Konguhead (talk) 01:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. DMacks (talk) 08:51, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Konguhead (talk) 11:29, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts&#32;per the evidence presented at Sockpuppet investigations/Konguhead. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:39, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Unblocking request
Konguhead (talk) 17:42, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

@User:Jpgordon In this regard I wanted to point out what happened to convey my intention. I never say I'm perfect. I done mistakes, that was really an ACCIDENT But I don't wanna override that again. I wanna maintain a good relationship with other editors to be civil and purposeful. I felt guilty for what I did, I wanna be helpful to good editors rather than wasting time on arguments and disagreements. I'm sure I'll never do such mistakes and I'll always learn from editors.

Extremely Sorry for the mistakes
Konguhead (talk) 19:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)