User talk:Konrad West/archiveStartTil3108

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Follow-Up
1. Slavery in Abrahamic Religions.

Thank you for a constructive addition.

2. Charles Taze Russell

It appears to me that the author-editor of this article has committed several violations of Wikiquette. My plan is to wait two days for a response. If there is no response, I will write up a second RfC, not about the article but about user conduct.

Robert McClenon 18:37, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much. I was beginning to doubt my sanity and objectivity, so it's nice to see an independent observer agree that things weren't going according to the principles of Wikipedia. Thanks! --K. 23:55, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Agreed with Charles. Expect severe Wikistress, though: unfortunately this kind of dispute is a common scenario with religious articles where believers claim sole authority, and usually proves resistant to simple content RfC. Tearlach 11:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

PastorRussell
First off this user is being disengeuous with you to start with, he's not really using the account PastorRussell, he's only signing by it, that account has no contributions. As for exclusivity, I've never heard of the Arbcom doing such a thing and doubt that they ever would. However, I have left an inquiry on Arbcom's talk page regarding PastorRussell's claim. If I don't get a response there I'll ask the arbitors I'm familiar with on their talk pages. -JCarriker 22:19, July 18, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. He has used two accounts that I am aware of: User:Pastorrussell and User:PastorRussell. I had never heard of Arbcom doing that either, but I thought I better ask someone more experienced. Thanks for checking with them for me! --K. 23:58, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


 * You should probably request page protection from an admin. This would mean only admins could edit the page and would force discussion to talk. Be carful though admins will protect the version they find inless vandalism is obivous. -JCarriker


 * In this case, I think that would be very unproductive. Pastorrussell views the article as complete and wants it permanently in more or less the current state, so locking it risks creating a situation where he has no reason to take part in discussion. Tearlach 12:01, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Admins can still edit pages, and would impliment suggested changes from discussions. If Pastorrusell doesn't engage in the conversation he'll find the article being rewritten with no way of reverting the changes; so locking the page is not necessarily preservation of the status quo- only a forced truce in an edit war. -JCarriker 12:17, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah - I didn't realise that (I thought they just locked it in whatever state). Thanks. Tearlach 14:07, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Re the e-mail matter: under the circumstances, I'd take the view that any discussion should be "on the table". Tearlach 00:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Oops! I didn't mean post them: it could be a copyright breach. I meant that I'd refuse to engage in discussion except via the editorial procedures here. Tearlach 01:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Super oops! Taken them down. :P --K. 01:41, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

User Conduct
Following Tearlach's suggestion, I have taken the unpleasant and painful action of writing the RfC as a Request for Comments about user conduct. It should be at Requests for comment/Pastorrussell. If you can visit the page and sign it, it will become a 'certified' issue.

I wish I didn't have to do this in Wikipedia, but the fact that I can is why Wikipedia is not Usenet.

Robert McClenon 12:19, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I was hoping it wouldn't get to it, but I can't see any alternative. I've co-signed and filled in some detail. Tearlach 14:45, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

A test
This is a test of my new sig. --K. AKA Konrad West TALK 05:35, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

DSD
G'Day Konrad. On the DSD disambiguation page, you hyperlinked words other than the primary article that the user is being directed to. It is wikipedia policy not to do this on disambiguation pages (See WP:MOS) so that the page functions effieceintly. Cheers, Commander Keane 09:12, 26 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Oops! Didn't realise that was policy. Thanks for pointing it out so kindly! --K. AKA Konrad West TALK 11:31, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Vanstone
Please don't change the format of articles on Australian politicians, a format which has been agreed on by many editors working on these articles. By all means add new information to the Vanstone article if you wish, but leave the basic structure as it is. Adam 06:53, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I can only repeat what I said above. Adam 09:20, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't want to make some edits if you're just going to revert them. IMO, the "format" on the Amanda Vanstone page is illogical, and needs improvement. Why does the first paragraph mention her education, and not that she is Immigration Minister (certainly the most notable thing about her at the moment)? --K. AKA Konrad West TALK 09:28, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Human Rights Servey on Wikipedia (The final post of I_sterbinski)

 * Dear all,


 * Wikipedia was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Wikipedia for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Wikipedia free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Wikipedia. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.
 * Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Wikipedia and human rights, which was still not formed.


 * The team's final post on Wikipedia, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_sterbinski
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29


 * The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.
 * We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.


 * Best regards,
 * Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza
 * I sterbinski 01:33, 28 August 2005 (UTC)