User talk:Koolaide187

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Speedy deletion nomination of "Echo Calls"
Echo Calls, a page you created, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it is obvious advertising or promotional material.

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Thank you. DVdm (talk) 19:36, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Echo Calls


A tag has been placed on Echo Calls requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://echocalls.com. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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October 2016
Please do not use Wikipedia to promote businesses, such as you did in the article Echo Calls. Wikipedia is not a trade directory. If you want to list a company for potential customers to find, please consider alternative outlets. Thank you. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:03, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * After seeing your alternate account User talk:KoolAide187 and the warnings there I have decided to block both indefinitely. If you can give assurances that you will stop promoting your company then we may be able to unblock. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:07, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, thanks for message. Please assume good faith. You should not accuse anyone of double standards unless you are certain I have read every one of the 5 million article on Wikipedia. I didn't even know of the existence of that article, which doesn't help you anyway. Either that should be deleted too, or it meets the criteria and yours doesn't.I deleted your article because Jimfbleak - talk to me?  16:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * it did not provide adequate independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management. One of your references was your own site, the last doesn't even mention your company, which leaves just the "world winners" page, which despite its name seems to just concern Arkansas and nearby US states
 * The fact that some people have won the title may possibly make them notable, but not the company. To show notability you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits. I don't think you even tell us where the company is based
 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include:  Echo Calls, unquestionably had become one of the most popular Duck Call brand around. Eventually, Echo Calls were reaching hunters all around the world. Rarely will you hear of a serious duck hunter that hasn’t used, or at least heard of Echo Duck Calls... played a critical role in the development and shaping of the duck hunting crowd&mdash; in fact the whole thing is a mixture of family social media-type chat and blatant spamming
 * the article was significantly a copyright violation. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. But in any case the copyrighted text is far too promotional to be useful for Wikipedia's purposes, so there would not be any point in your jumping through all the hoops that are required. the article was previously deleted for copyright violation by . Putting copyright material in with other stuff doesn't change the fact that it's still copyright.
 * my page&mdash;no, our page about your company
 * You have a conflict of interest when editing this article, and you must declare it. If you own, work directly or indirectly for the company, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly. Regardless, if you are paid directly or indirectly by the company you are writing about, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:     . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.