User talk:KoshVorlon/Archive 10

Tech News: 2014-15
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.  Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf21) was scheduled to be deployed to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on April 3, however it was temporarily put on hold due to localization issues. (calendar).
 * Typography Refresh was enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on April 1, and on all Wikipedias on April 3. You'll only see it if you use the Vector skin.
 * CirrusSearch was enabled as the primary search method on over 400 non-Wikipedia wikis on April 2. [//https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123246/]

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 * A new special page (Special:TrackingCategories) will soon list all the tracking categories on a wiki. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60333] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112323/]
 * All Wikiquote projects will start using language links from Wikidata on April 8.
 * The Hovercards feature will soon work with right-to-left languages. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62970] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62970]
 * You will soon be able to download files directly from MediaViewer, the new multimedia tool. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120738/]
 * MediaViewer will be enabled for all users on MediaWiki.org on April 10. Comments are welcome.
 * You can help check that users can read CAPTCHAs in your language.

April 2014
I see that your topic ban in this area expired on Tuesday. You then removed a section from the MOS, a section that had consensus, and then you violated your voluntary restriction of 0RR. Do not change the MoS language around gender without a new discussion reaching consensus to do so. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really don't understand just how bigoted and offensive you come across with this comment. If you really don't consider yourself to be transphobic, or at least don't want others to consider you as such, then I would urge you to remove that comment immediately. As to why the comment is offensive, perhaps you could ask some of your many trans acquaintances at the community centre to explain this to you. (I'm not trying to be snarky here; I just think that if the explanation comes from people you know personally, there's a better chance you'll take it to heart.) —Psychonaut (talk) 19:16, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-16
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Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf22) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on April 10. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on April 15, and all Wikipedias on April 17 (calendar).
 * MediaViewer was enabled for all users on MediaWiki.org on April 10. It will be enabled for all users on the Catalan (ca), Hungarian (hu) and Korean (ko) Wikipedias and English Wikivoyage on April 17. Comments are welcome.  [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125031/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125032/]
 * Font issues caused by Typography refresh for Windows users were fixed on April 7. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124387/] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63512]

VisualEditor news
 * You will now see only three options when you try to add a template parameter in VisualEditor; you will see other options after a click.
 * The size changing controls in VisualEditor media editing dialog were simplified further.
 * The wikitext editor tab will now fold into a drop-down menu in the Vector skin if there is not enough space on your screen. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50255] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123503/]

Future software changes  Problems
 * The font used for body text on Wikimedia wikis will change to your system default sans-serif font. This temporary change will be enabled on all non-Wikipedia wikis on April 15, and on all Wikipedias on April 17. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124475/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125447/]
 * Files from Commons seen on another wiki will soon have a tab saying "View on Wikimedia Commons". The create tab will change to "Add local description" (see screenshot). [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/104182]
 * You will soon be able to hide Notification and Hovercards pop-ups by pressing the Esc key. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53588] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62948] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/123638/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120343/]
 * Shorter lists of language links will soon work in right-to-left languages. Languages that you have used before will be shown in the list. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62981]
 * You will soon be able to send messages with the MassMessage tool to all pages in a given category. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57473] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120334/]
 * The date format user preference will soon be moved to the appearance tab. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63582] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125370/]
 * An IRC discussion with the Wikimedia Foundation Multimedia team will take place on April 16 at 18:00 UTC on the channel #wikimedia-office on Freenode (time conversion).
 * Wikimedia Foundation servers were updated after a security bug called Heartbleed was discovered last week. You should change your password as an extra precaution. [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Heartbleed]

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Topic ban, pursuant to Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology
Kosh, I'm unhappy to have to do this (both you you and to me, believe me), but six months away was obviously not enough. When your previous topic ban from trans-related issues expired on April 8, you waited a mere three days before returning to the topic at here and here, with posts like "Bradley Manning is still a guy, biologically and legally, so he needs to be referred to (again, WP:V and WP:BLP and per Reliable sources) as Bradley Manning" and "there's no reliable resource that shows 'Chelsea Manning' exists in place of 'Bradley Manning'.". Multiple editors on both pages have stated that they find your behavior disruptive, and they have asked you repeatedly to accept that you are misunderstanding policy and to stop, but you continue to insist that both your interpretation of policy and your desire to re-hash trans-related issues trumps others' consensus. In short, you are editing disruptively, apparently in pursuit of a personal POV about how BLP does and doesn't apply to trans people, and you are attempting to use editing the MOS to do an end-run around community consensus. These are all failures to "adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process".

While your statement that you will drop a discussion if three users in good standing ask you to is noble, it, much like your 0RR restriction and your promise to never alter anyone else's comments - all noted at the top of your talk page - does not appear to be something that you're able to adhere to in practice (0RR violation, editing another user's comment, three days of discussion involving other users asking you to stop pushing for your preferred interpretation of policy before you finally agreed). Your statement that you will "refrain from making any changes on the Bradley Manning article (or any article that references him ) voluntarily until June 1 2014 as a show of good faith" is similarly a good idea, but simply not adequate to address the issues your behavior is causing, especially given that most of the disruption is happening on talk pages, not in articles. Your self-restrictions are all good efforts, and I commend you for trying to work with the community to resolve your issues, but the level of disruption being caused by your behavior is simply too high to be handled with restrictions you may or may not follow at some point, if you remember. Therefore, I see no alternative but to issue you a permanent topic ban from all pages and discussions related to transgender issues, broadly construed.

To be clear, since I know you dispute that sexology discretionary sanctions apply to the MOS: your immediate return to tendentious behavior on Talk:Chelsea_Manning this week was enough, in and of itself, to trigger a new topic ban; your behavior on Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style has simply made it even more clear that this is a topic area which you will disruptively pursue beyond the borders of article space, and thus that your topic ban must apply there as well.

As you know, appeals of discretionary sanctions may be made to Arbcom or to the community at WP:AN (per policy, appeal is not to WP:AE, which is where your last topic ban was appealed to). A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:17, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * This was done after I agreed to drop the stick on WP:MOS, so it's a bit late, but none the less, it is what it is.

However, WP:MOS is not under The Sexology Discretionary sanction, so it cannot be applied. (It's actually under a different sanction that I didn't violate.)  As I said on your page, I won't rant and rave about it, or hurry to AES to have it remove it. It is what it is. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh  17:22, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "it cannot be applied". Your topic ban can (and does) absolutely prohibit you from starting or participating in transgender-related discussions anywhere on Wikipedia (WP:AC/DS permits "bans on any editing related to a topic within the area of conflict or its closely related topics" - you are in conflict on transgender issues, and I have topic banned you from any editing related to that topic, no matter where on the project that editing would occur). In addition, I would ask that you please not edit my commentary by collapsing it; your own voluntary restriction noted above bars you from doing so. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * You're right about the hatting, and I was dead wrong to do it.   My point was and is,  WP:MOS is under a different sanction, not sexology, therefore it can't apply, that's all I'm saying (no, I won't run back to that board, I said I was dropping it (before the ban ) and I mean it. ) ).   KoshVorlon . We are all Kosh   17:49, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you're very much misunderstanding the concept of both topic bans and discretionary sanctions. Your topic ban applies everywhere (that's why it's a topic ban from all discussions and not a articlespace ban from all article edits - and let me add now in case it wasn't clear that this topic ban also includes non-article pages, such as the MOS itself, as well as discussions about those pages), and if you continue pursuing transgender issues anywhere onwiki, you will be subject to enforcement action the same way as you would if you had done it in an article. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:54, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-18
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf2) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on April 24. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on April 29, and all Wikipedias on May 1 (calendar).
 * You can now use interwiki prefix  to link to pages on Wikimedia Commons.

VisualEditor news
 * You will soon be able to set content language and direction with VisualEditor.
 * VisualEditor now works on all Wikipedias after broken  pages (and similar) were fixed last week.
 * VisualEditor dialogs now use an animation of moving lines rather than animated GIF images.

Future software changes
 * CirrusSearch will be enabled as a beta feature on 41 new wikis, including Meta-Wiki and the Swedish (sv), Russian (ru), Polish (pl), Japanese (ja) and Chinese (zh) Wikipedias next week. This change means that CirrusSearch will now be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis.
 * MediaViewer will be enabled for all users on the French (fr) and Dutch (nl) Wikipedias on May 1. Feedback is welcome.
 * The mobile version of Wikimedia wikis will soon include filters to limit the number of uploaded files that are copyright violations.
 * CodeEditor will soon have a status bar about errors and warnings.
 * You can test a new version of Winter, a proposal to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages. Comments are welcome.

Problems
 * For about 30 minutes on April 21, there were problems with image scaling due to a high server load.
 * On April 22, it was not possible to use the Collection extension for about 90 minutes due to a server move.

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Tech News: 2014-19
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Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf3) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on May 1. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 6, and all Wikipedias on May 8 (calendar).
 * The Compact Personal Bar was added as a beta feature to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on May 1. It will be added as a beta feature to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 6, and to all Wikipedias on May 8. To test it, you can enable it now in your preferences on MediaWiki.org.
 * It is now easier to disable the CodeEditor tool.

VisualEditor news
 * External links in VisualEditor are now in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki.
 * The template tool now tells you if a parameter is obsolete.
 * You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData; VisualEditor will add them like required ones.
 * There is a new type for TemplateData parameters:  for file names.
 * Editing formulae in VisualEditor will soon be enabled for all users.
 * You will soon be able to try a new beta feature to edit text in another language.

Future software changes
 * MediaViewer will be enabled for all users on the Japanese (ja), Portuguese (pt), Spanish (es), Swedish (sv) and Telugu (te) Wikipedias on May 8. Feedback is welcome.
 * You can help translate about 100 new language names that have been added to our data source. They are used, for example, as hover text for interwiki links. Send an e-mail to Nemo if you want to help.
 * If you click on a redirect page in your watchlist, you will soon access the redirect itself.

Problems
 * For about 40 minutes around 00:20 UTC on April 29, there were problems with page loading due to high server load.

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Tech News: 2014-20
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf4) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on May 8. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 13, and all Wikipedias on May 15 (calendar).

VisualEditor news
 * A new citation system in VisualEditor was enabled on the English Wikipedia. It will soon be enabled on more wikis.
 * Templates that were previously broken in VisualEditor should now appear correctly.

Future software changes
 * It will soon be possible to move category description pages. Pages in changed categories will still have to be moved independently.
 * You will soon be able to clear your watchlist with one click or through the API.
 * You will soon be able to link to Flow posts and workflows with.
 * The jQuery JavaScript library will soon be updated. Please check that your gadgets and scripts will still work.
 * The Vector skin will work faster, as the sidebar will no longer collapse partly after being loaded.
 * MediaViewer will be enabled for all users on Wikimedia Commons on May 15. Feedback is welcome.
 * An IRC discussion about Phabricator will take place on May 14 at 18:00 UTC on the channel #wikimedia-office on freenode (time conversion).
 * Toolserver tools will be stopped on June 30. Please make sure to change gadgets [ that link to the Toolserver] to point to Tool Labs instead.

Problems
 * There were problems with generating file thumbnails for all wikis between May 3 and May 6 due to a configuration error.

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Your signature
I was partially commenting on TheDJ to mention we already have the policy WP:SIGAPP to deal with it. I don't support a ban on customized signatures, but I definitely have a problem with yours and so do others. Will you change it voluntarily? The eyesore background is not acceptable and the text is far too long. A signature should enable identification and communication, not visually dominate a discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, I do have a problem with your signature. It is like a boombox in a library and it is actively barring me from properly participating in a discussion. Please use earplugs. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 06:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I did not add a note to the VPT thread as I felt others had already commented and the thread did not need to be further derailed. However, I also find it annoying. Given that is is the biggest one, how about it goes away into the past like B4. It can then be rebuilt; smaller, better and with more pleasing color like B5. &mdash; Makyen (talk) 07:18, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I noticed the signature discussion, and figured I'd chime in constructively: the biggest problem is the sheer size. Here's an option that should be more acceptable: It removes the large quote and trailing italics, tightens the padding a touch, and shortens the colours to 3-digit codes. That seems like it would be broadly acceptable. I hope this is helpful. {&#123; Nihiltres &#124;talk&#124;edits}&#125; 19:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * KoshVorlon


 * I slimmed my signature up after TheDJ mentioned that he didn't like it.  I left a few words on from "Inner Universe" as I'm a huge Ghost in the Shell fan,  no different from say  Cambridge bay's signature where he ended it with the phrase "have a gorilla".  However, consensus here doesn't favor the change I made in my signature, so, ok, I'll remove the quote.  KoshVorlon   Angeli i demoni kruzhili nado mnoj  '' 23:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)  It will show up on my next signature

Tech News: 2014-21
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Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf5) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on May 15. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 20, and all Wikipedias on May 22 (calendar).
 * The jQuery JavaScript library was updated on May 16. Please check that your gadgets and scripts still work.
 * MediaViewer was enabled for all users on the Kannada (kn) and Telugu (te) Wikipedias on May 13. It will be enabled on the German (de), English (en), Italian (it) and Russian (ru) Wikipedias and on all Wikisource wikis on May 22. Feedback is welcome.
 * VisualEditor was added as a beta feature to Wikimedia Commons on May 15. You can enable it in your preferences.
 * You can read a summary of the Wikimedia technical report for April 2014.

VisualEditor news
 * VisualEditor's buttons and icons can now be accessed using keyboard keys.
 * VisualEditor's new citation tool now matches templates like  and not just.
 * VisualEditor's welcome message will no longer be shown to users who have already seen it.
 * VisualEditor now shows a clearer message when you cancel an edit.
 * The toolbar of the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor.

Future software changes
 * User ID number will no longer be visible in preferences.

Problems
 * For several hours on May 16, there were problems with loading gadgets on some wikis due to a server problem.

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Tech News: 2014-22
<section begin="technews-2014-W22"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf6) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on May 22. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on May 27, and all Wikipedias on May 29 (calendar).
 * MediaViewer will be enabled on all Wikisource wikis on May 29, and on the German (de) and English (en) Wikipedias on June 3. Feedback is welcome.

'''VisualEditor news
 * VisualEditor's welcome message and wikitext warning now say that you can switch to source mode editing and keep your edits without saving them.
 * A bug that caused files not to appear after saving edits in the  namespace was fixed last week.
 * VisualEditor tabs will no longer appear in namespaces where VisualEditor is disabled.
 * It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor; many minor bugs related to images have also been fixed.
 * VisualEditor will no longer convert spaces to underscores inside links to pages in namespaces that include spaces in their names.

Future software changes
 * Wikimedia Labs will stop working for about 10 minutes around 18:00 UTC on May 30 due to a server upgrade.
 * It will soon no longer be possible to upload different files under the same name at the same time using the UploadWizard tool.
 * Links to TIFF, DjVu or PDF files created with the syntax  will now show an image caption if there is any text after page number; previously they caused the given page to appear.
 * You will soon see information about global blocks for IP addresses on their contributions page on your local wiki.

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