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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ahmed White (February 25)
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Hermera34 (talk) 20:05, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ahmed White (February 27)
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 Onel 5969  TT me 21:03, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ahmed White


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:55, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Ahmed White has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ahmed White. Thanks!  DGG ( talk ) 02:50, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ahmed White (September 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

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Sulfurboy (talk) 05:07, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

This page - Ahmed White - satisfies the requirements for publication
This page should be published now.

First, Ahmed White meets the notoriety requirement. The requirement is: "The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon)." White holds the Nicholas Rosenbaum Professorship/Chair, which is a "named chair." The University of Colorado Law School, which is a "major institution of higher education"; it is one of only two state-run universities in Colorado. It is also a "major institution of higher education and research" as it is a "research one" university, the most premier type of research university. Therefore, Ahmed White meets the notoriety requirement.

Second, Ahmed White is just as notable (and I would argue more notable) as others who appear on Wikipedia. For example, the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_A._Bintliff is a page for a librarian who previously received the same chair White has, i.e., the Nicholas Rosenbaum chair. Her Wikipedia page consists of two sentences: "Barbara A. Bintliff is an American lawyer, currently the Joseph C. Hutcheson Professor and Director of the Tarlton Law Library/Jamail Center for Legal Research at University of Texas School of Law, and was previously the Nicholas Rosenbaum Professor of Law and Director of the William A. Wise Law Library at University of Colorado." In short, if Bintliff is notable enough to have a page, then White is notable enough to have a page.

Finally, White meets the requirements for significant contributions to a field of study. The requirements are variously described as: •	significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject •	The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources •	The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions In White's case, the partial list of law review articles goes to this requirement. Law review articles are what law professors do; most law professors do not write books (although White did). In other words, law review articles ARE the scholarship of law professors. The reviewer DGG says "We do not normally list law review articles, unless they can be shown to be particularly influential by third party sources." Well, if the first part of that sentence is true—that it is not normal to list law review articles—then Wikipedia is ignoring the scholarship that law professors engage in. As for the second part of the sentence, about influence, that is precisely why I gave a smattering of White's article titles, and described his theory (another thing DGG criticized): to show that White's articles have created a body of work that has been influential in the areas of criminal, labor, and feminist legal theory. These theories were sketched out and their influence was established by the citations to the independent third parties (namely other legal scholars) who have cited White's articles. White is the "father" of a line of theory in legal scholarship, and that is what the citations to these articles by White, and to the articles by the younger scholars who are now citing to him, show. In summary, the citations to the younger legal scholars show that White has gotten "significant coverage" in "published, reliable sources that are independent of the subject." They show that White's "research has had a significant impact" in his field (substantiated by "independent reliable sources," i.e., by the citations to people like Ben Levin and Aya Gruber). And they show that White's work has had a significant impact "affecting a substantial number of academic institutions"—as demonstrated by the articles authored by people at law schools other than the one where White teaches in journals housed at law schools other than the one where White teaches (Harvard, Rutgers, etc.).

AfC notification: Draft:Ahmed White has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ahmed White. Thanks! Worldbruce (talk) 03:09, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Ahmed White has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ahmed White. Thanks!  DGG ( talk ) 23:30, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ahmed White has been accepted
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