User talk:Koveras/Archive 3

Request
Koveras, thanks for checking my articles recently though they're not as good as yours. I'm trying to write an article about Madlax's albums and OSTs but i don't really know the released dates and who performed them. Since you know a lot of stuffs about Madlax than i do, can you tell me the details. Thank you.OgasawaraSachiko (talk) 09:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. ^^; About the OSTs, I've compiled some of the information I know on Bee Train Fan wiki:, , , and . There are also some links at the bottom of these pages. You are welcome to join the BTF community, btw, if you ever need help regarding Noir or Madlax. ;) --Koveras ☭ 09:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your cooperation, i found that BTF is really useful. Once again,thanks!OgasawaraSachiko (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Anytime. :-) --Koveras ☭ 14:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

About List of Madlax characters
Good day to you, as you can see, i'm just a newcomer. i don't even have a userpage yet, but i guest i don't need one. I'm just an anime lover, and Madlax is one of my favorite, but while i'm reading the page, the List of Madlax characters article doens't have their character images, not like they were before. I went and look on the page's history and found out that they are all WP:NFC. The page is still a good article, but since it lost all its picture, it just doens't seem right, how can you say it? It just feels like "uncomfortable". So can you just recreat or do whatever, i don't know since i'm not good at these stuffs, but can you just repair the page backs to the way it was. Or if you can, can you upload new versions of all the images. I know it's stupid to ask you to do something like this but it pains me a lot when some of my favorite articles have themselves change, making them "uncomfortable" like the time someone change Harry Potter and Gungrave --SevenNights ☭ 21:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * It does indeed look very awkward without images but the rules for WP:NFC explicitely state that: "The use of non-free media in lists, galleries, discographies, and navigational and user-interface elements is usually unacceptable for failing the test for significance (criterion #8)." And right now, I don't see any possibility of Madlax character list being a special case exempt from it. :( Of course, other anime character lists do this all the time but the fact is: it is against the guidelines. And it may even cost the main article its featured status on which I've spent almost year of hard work...
 * Addressing your suggestion, it is indeed possible to just revert the removal of the images but that won't deal with the source of the problem: the unacceptability of such act under Wikipedia policies, which in turn, stems from the US fair use and copyright laws. Unfortunately, there is very little I can do about the latter, so anyone who'd remove the images again will be formally right AND it will eventually lead to an edit war which is an unconditionally bad development.
 * Don't think that I don't understand your concern. I too, hate character lists without character portraits and a thought of my favourite anime series having one pains me to no end. But it's just the way Wikipedia is. Being the most popular educational site on the web sadly comes with a price tag. :( --Koveras ☭ 16:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for stubs help
Thanks for responding to my "helpme" request. I will use the personal sandbox, and I would be delighted to have you look over it and help me figure out when it's ready for stub and/or article status. thanks!Sharper1 (talk) 17:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. I'll be monitoring the page from now on. :) There's not much text there right now, so you might wanna check out some larger articles in Category:Libraries to give you inspiration. ;) Generally it's often useful to follow a precedent: if someone did it on another page and it wasn't edited away, you can do it on your page, too. --Koveras ☭ 18:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Madlax again
Hey, just for you to know, i just uploaded the screenshots that had been deleted from List of Madlax characters, i don't know if you like but they're all new, except for Friday Monday, Richard Burton and SSS. By the way, can you check my latest article on Gungrave, it's about the main character Beyond The Grave. The thing is i've created it 3 days ago but no one has came to view it (that's what i think), so i don't know if it's good or bad. Can you check it up for me?OgasawaraSachiko (talk) 09:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have explained the thing with images and lists to SevenNights above, and my position hasn't changed since then. I won't revert your contributions but I will also not oppose others removing the images again. :) I have checked out your article and right now, it appears predominantly in-universe with several heavy violations of encyclopedic tone. I haven't read too much into it, however, out of fear of spoilers. ^^ --Koveras ☭ 14:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought so, but still, thanks for checking that page, i just hope they don't delete or redirect it.OgasawaraSachiko (talk) 19:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That will depend on whether you'll make the article appear as if it perfectly notable and encyclopedic to an objective observer or not. :) --Koveras ☭ 13:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Moon Dog (Dungeons & Dragons)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Moon Dog (Dungeons & Dragons), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Moon Dog (Dungeons & Dragons). Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 14:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

help with editorial comment
Hi Koveras! I posted the Round Rock Public Library article round rock public library, but I received a "written like an advertisement" editorial comment. How do I contest that, or better yet get that off the page? thanks! Sharper1 (talk) 16:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You should ask the user who put up that notice for details but from what I see, you have used a bit too many expressive statements like "an essential stop for researchers of all kinds" and "thriving teen program". This kind of tone is not liked by many editors because it is too easy to lapse outside the neutral point of view when using it. Basically, it's the style, it isn't dry enough. :) --Koveras ☭ 17:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi! Thanks for adding the category for "Wikipedians who like Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha" to my userbox. I really appreciate it.--Remitonova (talk) 14:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, no problem at all. ^^ --Koveras ☭ 21:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

A Little Invite
I would like to Invite you to talk on my talk page under a new topic of mine titled "Can Wikipedia Change, Should it Change?" Also feel free to invite anyone else you think can contribute to this topic. Go all over Wiki is necessary. I'll try to do the same to. I thank you for reading this even if you don't respond to it. And if you do. . . Yaaaaaaay.:~)-BTJM--AKIRA70 (talk) 08:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

ultima
well personally, if they link to the disambiguation page, then it's good enough for me. but if it's not good enough for you, feel free to edit the 300 links yourself. Sennen goroshi (talk) 13:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Then, personally, you don't give a damn about that "If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article." message? ;) Is that your way of being nice? =) --Koveras ☭ 13:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If it bothers you, then change the internal links, instead of wasting time moaning to be about it, make better use of your time, and change the links yourself. Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am quite certain that this is how it'll end like. However, I just wanted to transmit a message to you that renaming an article is a major action that produces a lot of overhead, that renaming an article should be discussed on the talk page due to said overhead, and that refusing to take part in clearing that overhead with a justification like "i don't care about the mess I caused, let the jerks who do clean it out if it bothers them" is not being responsible or nice towards other contributors. Do you acknowledge those arguments? :) --Koveras ☭ 14:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Ai Uchikawa
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Image copyright problem with Image:Dreamfall OST Cover.png
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 * Jeez, you are slow, man. :P I already did that before you notified me. --Koveras ☭ 07:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Music knowledge
Hey, I saw you knew the song from the wic sa trailer. Do you happen to know the song from this video around 0:14 as well? Spasibk Mallerd (talk) 14:56, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. 'Cause it the National Anthem of the Soviet Union. ;D I can even tell you where to download a semi-official English translation. %) --Koveras ☭ 15:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I didn't know that. I only know the Russian Federation's. Poka :D Mallerd (talk) 23:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Smal question: do you contribute to the wiktionary project? I reckon we can use another native Russian speaker, helas I do not know where you currently reside. I and another user are having some trouble placing some German-Russian vocabulary, if you can help out that would be great. Mallerd (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I have an account there but I only contributed once or twice. I can help you with urgent stuff by demand but that's as far as my enthusiasm goes, I'm afraid... Meaning: if you have specific questions, I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge, but don't expect a full-time commitment to Wiktionary from me. :) --Koveras ☭ 07:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks / Emma Shapplin page
Koveras, Thanks for your help with the references on the Emma Shapplin page. Much appreciated. Truth or consequences-2 (talk) 00:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You welcome. It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who enjoys Shapplin's songs. ^^ --Koveras ☭ 07:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Avatar(Ultima) and others up for merge/deletion
You have participated in the Avatar (Ultima) article before. Since you have contributed to it, as well as other Ultima articles, I thought you'd be interested in know of the discussion to merge it, Lord British, and The_Companions_of_the_Avatar, to the character list, which would result in a massive lost of information. In addition, one Ultima topic is up for deletion at the AFD. Articles_for_deletion/Worlds_of_Ultima Please share your opinions to form consensus.  D r e a m Focus  17:49, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, whatever. ^^ I am in favor of merging characters into a single list, anyway. --Koveras ☭ 18:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

On Programmers' Day
Hello, I was reading an article somewhere on the Web and it was saying that the Wikipedia page Programmer's_day was deleted; however, due to the reason that it became an official holiday in Russia, I decided to register and to write something about it. Unfortunately, I did not realize that the webpage name was misspelled. Would you be so kind as to merge (or move) Programmers'_Day and Programmer's_day? Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codevitter (talk • contribs) 12:18, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's a shame we made a redundant effort. -__- Well, anyhow, thanks for letting me know, I'll take care of it ASAP. --Koveras ☭ 13:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Koveras! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 4 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to insure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:

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 * 1) Lani Minella -
 * 2) Tim Blaney -
 * 3) Ai Uchikawa -
 * 4) Shigeru Kitayama -

Re: Full Throttle layout
WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines ''Plot: if the plot is not too complex, it can be lumped in with the gameplay; otherwise, put it in its own section. If necessary, the section should have subheadings for the story's setting, characters, and story. Avoid trivial details.''

I'll give you not having a subheading for Legacy though, as I couldn't find anything on that. --Teancum (talk) 00:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, then according to MOS, the Plot section in FT can have to subheadings: Characters and Story, whereas Legacy can be made into own section. :) Do you agree? --Koveras ☭ 07:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

That's fine with me. --Teancum (talk) 15:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
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Romanization for words of English origin
On the MOS:JP talk page, a discussion has been started about including or not including romanizations for words of English origin, such as Fainaru Fantajī in Final Fantasy (ファイナルファンタジー) (for the sake of simplicity, I called this case "words of English origin", more information on semantics here).

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Fair use rationale for File:Drakan.jpg
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Proposed deletion of Dreamfall Chapters


The article Dreamfall Chapters has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Game is not under production, and is unlikely to be so for quite time. Description on Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, is sufficient. Not proposing a complete delete. Merely to turn this page into a redirect for the Dreamfall page

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 * The deed has been done. It was fun working with you. Oldag07 (talk) 01:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your efforts. :) --Koveras ☭ 08:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Murka
Why the simple redirect to cat? It was a cat smashed into a wall, right? Fits into the same category as Malchik, creating a public outcry. 81.68.255.36 (talk) 12:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You are asking the wrong person. I have no idea which Murka you refer to, since "Murka" is a pretty generic cat name in Russian. The page was originally created in 2004 by and redirected to "Cat".  redirected the page to "United States" in 2007, so I felt it was right to correct it to the original destination when I accidentally stumbled upon it two months later. So I have no way of answering your question. :) --Koveras ☭ 13:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I see. Well, it's not superimportant or anything, I was just wondering. Thanks :) 81.68.255.36 (talk) 21:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Dead link/doc revert
Please read WP:MINOR - your edit at Template:Dead link/doc was not actually minor. Any change to the text of the article beyond a single capitalization or spelling correct is not considered minor. Thanks. --Lexein (talk) 23:58, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I consider reverting vandalism a minor thing. It's a principle thing: "major" edit would do them too much honor. ^^ And thank you for caring enough to enlighten me. :) --Koveras ☭ 04:57, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Merging List of Simoun Media with Simoun main article
I'm thinking again of merging List of Simoun media with Simoun (anime). I have my reasons stated in the talk page. Since you were the only one who responded when I suggested this in 2009, I thought I would ask your opinion before doing it. AngelFire3423 (talk) 04:29, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you think that's for the best, go ahead. Since 2009, I have assumed a laissez-faire attitude to most Wikipedia articles... --Koveras ☭ 15:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Ragnar Tørnquist AMA
I'll just leave this here. --illythr (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I already have that bookmarked. The problem is that it's pretty much a forum, and forums are a gray area as far as reliability as sources is concerned. --Koveras ☭ 16:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I left this just as interesting indication as to what the developers might do next. Wonder if Brian Fargo'll do another one of these soon... --illythr (talk) 22:12, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Madlax
Madlax has a few of issues with the fact it still lists Madlax as showing on Anime Network, something which is no longer true. Could you spare a few moments to clean it up? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. --Koveras ☭ 06:07, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

National Flower
Hi. Yeras ago you created this redirect. Assuming that you have admin powers, could you kill national flower, so that floral emblem can instead be redirected there? National flower is the common term in most parts of the world. It is in fact the term used on the page. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 21:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi! Unfortunately, I am not an admin, so I cannot "kill" pages. If you want to suggest renaming "floral emblem" to "national flower", I recommend going to Requested moves and suggesting it there. --Koveras ☭ 06:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!

 * Thank you. :) --Koveras ☭ 16:06, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Dreamfall Chapters: The Longest Journey
Hi - my issue with the wording at Dreamfall Chapters: The Longest Journey was mainly the use of the word "tritagonist," without providing a source for that label. Trivialist (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I see your point, but I am kind of stumped at what kind of source you want to see. Dreamfall had three playable characters: Zoe, Kian, and April (in order of introduction), so it would appear logical and not require additional citation to refer to them as "protagonist", "deuteragonist", and "tritagonist", respectively. But I assume you want to have some kind of review or tertiary plot analysis using that term? That said, I am not really clinging to the word itself, I've just used instead of "third playable character" to save space, and am open to alternative suggestions. :-) --Koveras ☭ 05:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Noon Universe
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Proposed deletion of Fictional setting of Madlax


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Re:Refideas
Hey! Thanks for getting in touch. I do know about refideas, but, to be honest, I've found the template tiresome to work with. (And I've actually been adding drive-by sources to talk pages since before refideas was even in mainstream use, just not to this volume.) When I'm posting those sources, I'm usually diving through huge archives of news, features and the like at a rapid pace—dropping whatever valuable stuff I find on talk pages every minute or two. Jumping through the hoop of the refideas template slows the work down a lot: with my current method, I can make a hundred edits in two hours or less, which is just impossible with a more polished approach. My goal is simply to toss whatever I find into a place where another editor (or myself, in the future) might potentially see it later on, since these references tend to be very, very hard to locate otherwise. I definitely understand the value of doing things in an organized way and making this stuff easier for new editors to access, but there's just so much in these archives that getting through them would be impossible without a maximally efficient approach. Hopefully that makes sense! I realize it's a bit of a messy job, but I think the value added to the project will in the end outweigh whatever temporary disorder this causes. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 07:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah, alright then. Well, I can't argue that more sources is better than well-formatted sources, so keep doing what you're doing, man. ;-) --Koveras ☭ 07:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Buka Entertainment for deletion
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Madlax FAR
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FYI
User_talk:TTN. Maybe you would like to help and rescue that content from oblivion by helping to move it to  https://noon-universe.fandom.com/ I just created? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:09, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll see what I can do, though I don't know how much time I have to dedicate to it right now. --Koveras (talk) 07:20, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ultima Online
Template:Ultima Online has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:29, 20 July 2020 (UTC)