User talk:Kp2575

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Kp2575! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Aleta  Sing 21:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for writing me. I am trying to learn as much as I can so I can contribute properly. I am trying to fix the Vikki Ziegler entry I started by adding internal links and wikifying it. I just wanted to make sure I was on the right path. Kp2575 (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC) Hi Kp2575! Is there something I can help you with? Do you want me to double check your work on Vikki Ziegler? NuclearWarfare  contact me My work 20:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good formatwise, but you need better refs than YouTube. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 20:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Mike Saint
I have nominated Mike Saint, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Mike Saint. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have retagged this for deletion. Can you explain why this version is different than the last versions?  Also, can you explain why a webpage which was just a listing for an association was tagged as a Forbes reference?  Thanks.   7  23:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

You have been blocked for a week. I'm sorry, but your behaviour has been unacceptable.  Enigma msg  04:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I guess have a logical debate and citing your case when you were unable to do so because you were out of town for the original deletion is totally unacceptable around here. This is complete and utter abuse of moderator power... --Kp2575 (talk) 17:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not a moderator, and you were not blocked for having a "logical debate". If you had done that, you wouldn't be blocked. You were blocked for repeatedly recreating a page in violation of policy.  Enigma msg  18:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

How was my debate even against civility? The last version of the page was deleted before I could make a case for it or even make edits to further support it. I showed the search results and the article in FORBES in my discussion in the instructions and it was a discussion. I thanked him for making edits and went on to state my case even asking question on how to better support the article. Instead of getting a warning or even banned for a DAY I got a week. It is total crap. It is typical of Wikipedia editors. If I was posting about an independent zombie movie that nobody knows about and that nobody has watched it would be allowed. But writing about someone that is an industry leader and that has been written about hundreds of times over the last five years by leading magazines in their industry and FORBES isn't notable. Yeah... I am SO out of line. --Kp2575 (talk) 00:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you think you're arguing against. Where did I say your debate was against civility?  Enigma msg  04:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

So are you going to address any other point or just pick the one thing out that you have a comment about? I am arguing that they are notable, that I shouldn't have been banned for a week, and that this is a total over reaction and punishment on your part. --Kp2575 (talk) 13:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Mike Saint is not notable. Even if he were, what you did was completely unacceptable. You can't keep recreating an article every time it gets deleted, especially if it's been deleted via an AfD. You created the article four different times. Am I going to address any other point? You kept arguing some nonsense about civility, so I responded to that. If you don't want me to respond to it, don't post it. Civility has nothing to do with this.  Enigma msg  15:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

The first two entries were complete messes. Go back and look. They weren't very well cited so I worked hard to get the formatting correct and cite everything in there from a neutral point of view. Instead of working with me to make it better it was deleted with very little discussion. Just because you are an exclusionist .... That is why he is seen as not notable. There are more than enough primary sources for him and press coverage to show that he is. --Kp2575 (talk) 11:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You are flat out wrong and no one agrees with you. I am not an "exclusionist". The article was tagged by three different editors for deletion, deleted by four different administrators, sent to AfD, deleted via AfD, and still you saw fit to continue fighting against the community. You cannot simply keep creating an article if it gets deleted. That's not how things work here. The article did not meet our standards, and that's not my opinion. It's the opinion of at least ten different regular contributors.  Enigma msg  06:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)