User talk:Kpalion/Archive 1

Old Comments
Co oznacza rolled w informacji o naszej spółgłosce wibrującej (vibrating)? linkHalibutt 02:17, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Zasadniczo to samo. Za słownikiem: roll -- make a long continuous vibrating sound. Potocznie mówi się właśnie to roll one's r,  rolled r  itd. Choć pewnie nie byłoby też źle napisać: rolled (vibrating) r, dla tych, którzy korzystają z angielskiej Wikipedii, ale nie znają angielskiego aż tak dobrze - pozostawiam to Tobie. Kpalion 02:36, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Zmienię spowrotem na vibrating, głównie dlatego, że jest to wyrażenie fachowe a nie potoczne.Halibutt

Hi! Give us some clues about Gothic east of Zagreb: monuments and dates would be a start. Not any easy subject I know. jump in at the deep end! Welcome! Wetman 23:09, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for fixing the Polish letters in Biskupin! They seemed ok on my computer. Is there any table for the conversion?

How do I re-attach the link to Jószef Kostrzewski -which could do with some fixing up as well...? --Yak 16:19, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


 * I put a list of codes for "Polish letters" on my user page.
 * I also copied your article about Kostrzewski from Jószef Kostrzewski (which I turned into a redirect page) to Józef Kostrzewski. I fixed some diacritics there apart from K. Jad?d?ewski because I can't guess the guy's name.

Not extremely important, but I hope you remember that the main part of Scandinavia wasn't conquered by the Nazis. --Ruhrjung 14:12, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * You're right, Ruhrjung. I changed it to "much of Scandinavia". Kpalion 15:05, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Please see this diff. I removed the paragraph. That is not my paragraph, as can be seen from the page history. It was written by 12.152.8.144. As far as I can tell, their edit on that page, and all their other edits are hoaxes/vandalism. Maximus Rex 18:50, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)~
 * Sorry, my bad. Kpalion 02:40, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Poland's betrayal by the Western Allies please vote to keep it. Cautious 20:50, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

RfC
Trace troche cierpliwosc z niektorymi artykulami. czy moglbys zerknac na strone Talk:Andreas Schlüter? Zaczyna sie tam wojna o to, czy Andreas urodzil sie w Danzig, czy w Danzig (Gdansk). Przy okazji zostalem obrzucony wyzwiskami, ale to szczegol. Szopen

SDPL
I'd like to point out that official acronym of SDPL is SDPL not SdPL, please see official party homepage: http://www.sdpl.org.pl/. I am going to revert those changes. By the way, your version of name: Polish Social Democracy is better than my version. Good thinking! Przepla 18:34, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, you're apparently right. All I can say is that this abbreviation seems weird to me. --Kpalion 19:12, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * I corrected it. No need to revert anymore. --Kpalion 19:16, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Good idea for the multilingual statistics, I was going to do it myself. Fuzheado 01:38, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Wspólny znajomy
Czy mógłbyś spróbować dogadać się z Nico w sprawie Marienkirche of Danzig i St Mary's Church in Gdansk? Tym razem zamiast wojny edycyjnej zwyczajnie zignorował dyskusję, skasował redira i wkleił swoją wersję pod niemieckojęzycznym adresem. Próbowałem z nim o tym pogadać, ale wyciął moją prośbę z komentarzem rm insults. Mam już dość użerania się z nim i poprosiłem o komentarze na jego temat. Może ktoś o większym autorytecie z nim pogada... Pomożesz?. Pozdrawiam Halibutt 18:24, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Hm nie wiem, jaki ja mogę mieś autorytet, ale spróbuję. --Kpalion 22:35, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Najwyraźniej spory, skoro podziałało i nieco spuścił z tonu. Dzięki za pomoc.Halibutt

If you have evidence or any remarks to add at Requests for comment/Nico, please do so.Halibutt

Halibutt's referene page
No offense intended, but I think it's a bad idea to put your proposal on Halibutt's "reference page". Have no time now to explain in details, and admit that I might change opinion at a second thought. --Ruhrjung 07:57, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Lithuanian regions and place-names
Firstly, about Central European regions. If Aukstaiciai is included, then Samogitia must be included even more. Aukstaiciai never was political or administrative unite, but Samogitia was (and subsequently has the English name of medieval Latin origin). I would have edited this position, but absence of Samogitia in the map stopped me. But I think we must include Samogitia, the rather that you used this name in other articles. The second thing, that the English name for Aukstaiciai is instable, for it is a rare used place-name. I would wish, that all such Lithuanian names should be used in Lithuanian form (as Aukstaiciai in our case). But sometimes a different name form is used. There is also variation with using or not diacritics. 'Aukstaiciai' also has diacritics in original Lithuanian form and it looks Aukštaičiai.

A similar problem is with usage of Polish variants of Lithuanian place-names in English text. Well, I knew, that Gabriel Narutowicz was born in Lithuania, and I looked to the article (his brother Stanislaw, by the way, was a leader of Polish community in inter-war Lithuanian Republic). But how many articles on Polish history have such place-names, which could have normal references, but which haven't? For such names, which nobody will find on present-day English maps are used. So, Telsze is nothing other, but Telsiai or Telšiai (using the word with a diacritic or without it), a center of a county in Lithuania. Well, I haven't edited, waiting, what do you think. --Linas 18:28, 2004 Apr 4 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice, Linas! I've added Samogitia to the list and to the map as well. As for Aukštaičiai, maybe a Latin name would better (i.e. more readable for English readers) but I don't know it. I've also added Telšiai to the article about Narutowicz.
 * In future please don't hesitate to add diacritics to Lithuanian names - I always do so with Polish ones - or to add Lithuanian place names when only Slavic names are given. I think most Polish contributors - who don't write the Lithuanian names simply because the don't know them - should be happy with this as long as you leave the Polish names. --Kpalion 19:48, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Thank you. You are right. The problem on Lithuanian and Polish place-names is reciprocal for us. And maybe one will find in a text, written by a Lithuanian about Lithuanian history, such place-names as Seinai or Suvalkai (Do you know where they are? :-) ). So this thing must be solved, as You and I have said.  By the way, I haven't found such things in articles about Lithuania. But not because Lithuanians are such polite or NPOVed. Simply, our team is still not big and articles about Lithuania are often instable and weak, number of ones, written by Lithuanians, is not big to.
 * Switching to other point, I would like to use diacritics (and I will do it), but the same situation in articles about Lithuania often stops me. To keep this promise, I should do ma-a-a-ny editions in these articles. When I joined wiki, names in all English texts somehow were without diacritics. Also written by Lithuanians, knowing usage, and in Lithuania article itself. But I'll try.
 * Linas 12:30, 2004 Apr 6 (UTC)

Nobility stuff
Hmm...some of the articles I was thinking about seem to have been incorporated into nobility since I last was doing stuff with this, which is really a bad deal. But see Royal_and_noble_styles. Currently it only discusses monarchical/princely titles, and British and German noble titles, which is all I'm fully aware of. john 20:10, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Nobility Mintguy (T)

30-years war
- Kpalion, you have quoted that some Polish soldiers took part in 30-years war (as hired guns, not as help sent by Polish crown), that Russian consider Polish-Russian war part of 30-years war - but still, Poland oficially was NOT participant of the war. I feel the need for different wording - maybe "POland was indirectly involved..." or something like that? Szopen

Russian federal districts
Sorry about the numbers on the map. This is one detail I overlooked. Sure hope it is not too difficult to change them. Let me know if there is anything I can do. Thanks! --Ezhiki 18:18, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)

Map of Austria-Hungary
Hello, Kpalion! You made some great map of Austria-Hungary! Is it possible to get blind map of it (ie. without captions)? I'd like to add it to Slovene Wikipedia too. Regards, Romanm 20:48, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thank you! XJam already put it on Slika:Austria-Hungary-sl.png. --Romanm 16:32, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Wikiproject
That may be of interest: WikiProject_History_of_Poland

--Piotrus 21:11, 11 May 2004 (UTC)


 * I zastanawiam sie czy nie chcialbys sie w koncu dopisac do 'participants'? :)

Good maps
The maps you drew at Subdivisions of Russia help a lot to illustrate the points clearly. The readers would really appreciate those nice pictures. Although it may look better if the boundary are drawn slightly thinner (1 or 2 pixel-thick should be enough for a place that has lots of small divisions). Keep up the good illustrations! --Menchi 12:52, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

Autobahn
Hi, Freeway, while smimilar is not the same thing as the Autobahn. While both are multi-lane roads, they have different histories, rules and standards. Most people who have driven both actually prefer the Autobahn.--GeneralPatton 09:02, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * You mean freeways in the US are different than freeways in Germany (which happen to be called Autobahn in German). Are freeways in Quebec the same as in France because they're both called autoroutes, and different from those in Ontario? You see my point? They are all freeways with some national differences which should be described and compared. But there's no point organizing it by what the freeway is called in a given language. --Kpalion 09:43, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Motorway
Hi, a Freeway, while a similar concept, is not the same thing as a Motorway. While both are multi-lane roads, they have different histories, rules and standards.

The naming is not the sole difference. Now while an article summarising and comparing the American Freeway, British/Irish/European Motorway, German Autobahn, French Autoroute, etc. may be appropriate, merging all the articles into one is a nonsense. Each heading deserves its own article. A generic article should not try and host ALL information from Motorway, Autobahn, Autoroute, etc.

May I point out, the names are clearly not the sole difference. In many instances, the idea/concept of a multi-lane road was devised independantly and in a different manner in each location.

It's difficult enough to write about "Motorway" while keeping in mind differences in the UK and Ireland for crying out loud! To attempt to have a single article dispensing with individual ones and sufficiently describing each scenario is not sensible, except as a comparison which has a summary section for each concept linking to the relevant articles.

Thank you. Zoney 19:35, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

User:Halibutt/Allied policy towards Central Europe
Czy mógłbyś mi pomóc w wyszlifowaniu tej strony? Przygotowuję się do przeniesienia jej na właściwe miejsce i niechciałbym, aby ilość błędów czy drobnych potknięć merytorycznych naraziła efekt mojej pisaniny na natychmiastowe zapisanie na VfD. Byłbym dozgonnie wdzięczny :) --Halibutt 22:14, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

Partisan
Please take a look at Talk:Partisan and Requests for comment/CVA. Halibutt 09:32, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

Naming wars
Since you were either directly or indirectly once involved into edits revolving around "proper" naming of cities like Gdansk/Danzig etc i thought you may be interested in my proposition in User:Szopen/NamingWar. I would want to create a way aimed at stopping the revert wars in future - through creating something like a msg (in see also list or header) explaining that's there is compromise and why, and by linking to the article explaining changes of the statuses of the Royal Prussia province (I would prefer it ot have it as separate article, not scatter it in plethora other articles). I would be happy to hear from you. Szopen 09:29, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Edit attribution
Hi K. Edits from your IP have now been reattributed to your username. Regards  &mdash; Kate Turner | Talk 06:08, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)

WikiProject Geography of Poland

 * I started WikiProject Geography of Poland some time ago to settle the naming conventions for Polish Voivodships, powiats/counties and gmina/communes, as well as to create a set of infoboxes for use on these pages. Please participate. [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 12:51, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Your view on Simple Guide(s) to pronunciation
I note that you believe "we do need a standardized 'Simple Guide'." Your opinion, however, was recorded on Simple pronunciation markup guide under the "Undecided" category instead of "Support". Moving it would probably make your position more easily understood. Thanks for taking the time to advise us on this issue. --NathanHawking 19:20, 2004 Nov 3 (UTC)

Angielski
Witam,

Dzięki za poprawki w Unofficial national mottos of Poland. Zrobiłeś mnóstwo poprawek i chciałbym wiedzieć, jak istotne są moje błędy. Czy większość z tych błędów to proste niezręczności językowe cechujące obcokrajowców, czy może poważne błędy wskazujące, że powinienem zrezygnować z pisania artykułów w Wikipedii? Jakie jest Twoje zdanie? Przepla 14:42, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I'm deeply disappointed that Niewiadomski's entry carries no photograph of your hero. Couldn't you do something about this?Logologist 22:07, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Polish ortography
Nie masz za co przepraszać, też mnie między uszami zabolało :| Na szczęście dostałem kilka listów i, skoncentrowawszy się na nich, wyrzuciłem całą sprawę z pamięci. Pozdrawiam --[[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 21:57, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)

Najjaśniejsza
Dlaczego copyright? Ano dlatego, że nawet jeśli wypuszczam ją jako PD albo freeuse, pozostaję jej autorem i wszelkie prawa autorskie pozostają moimi; licencja określa w jaki sposób rozumieć prawa autorskie, nie zmienia ich.

A skoro już o mapce mowa: masz jakieś sugestie? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 19:14, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)


 * 1) To prawda. Na razie robię na tej podstawie całą masę mapek, w których nie będzie różowych plam, ale jak skończę - rozszerzę legendę. Dzięki za czujność!
 * 2) Zaiste, wyleciało mi z głowy
 * 3) Mhm, głównie dlatego, że jeszcze nie zdecydowałem jak zaznaczyć Inflanty (jakim kolorem i jako czyje), a do tego nigdzie nie mogę znaleźć informacji o tym jak przebiegały granice województw w Inflantach.
 * 4) Z Gambią było podobnie, książę wysłał tam parę okrętów, założyli na wysepce pośrodku ujścia rzeki fort św. Andrzeja, wynajęli od lokalnych kacyków kawał lądu i zaczęli kolonizować. Oczywiście sprawa się dość szybko potknęła o Potop, ale idea była ze wszech miar słuszna :). A tak z ciekawostek - przez te kilka lat Książę był też jednocześnie lennikiem Króla Polski i jakiegoś kacyka z plemienia Barra... :D [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 04:40, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Copyvio
When tagging things as copyright violations, don't copy the material to the /Temp page! The point of the /Temp page is to provide a place for rewrites without leaving the copyvio in the history. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:13, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Join RWNB!
Hello, Kpalion! Thought you might be interested in the Russian wikipedians' notice board. Come check it out! KNewman 04:39, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

Gediminaiciai
It's answer to “I'm thinking about moving Jagiellon dynasty to Gediminaiciai, but I'm not sure about that. Do you think these should be two separate articles or one? -- Kpalion 16:10, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)”

I have no anything against it. But there are some considerations, that should be appreciated in the case of integrating both articles. Gediminaičiai is a wider subject than  Jagiellons. So, in any case, a section dedicated to Jagiellons, will be drowned out by other material. But Jagiellonide branch was significant, especially in Polish history. Perhaps it's possible to link better two articles, using categories, or in  other possible ways, and put summary of Jagiellons to Gediminaiciai? (If this suggestion isn't too late, for Gediminaiciai article writing is already in process). Sorry for the delay. - Linas 10:58, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC).

Wojna Polsko-bolszewicka, pilny problem
Rok jestem na Wiki i czegos takiego jeszcze nie widzialem. Przyplatal sie jakis admin od siedmiu bolesci, zedytowal jak chcial, oskarzyl Polakow o POV, hero-worship i nationalism i zablokowal strone, to jakies zarty. Wypowiedz sie prosze na Talk:Polish-Soviet_War. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:14, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

In the news
FYI - articles in bold on the In the news template must be updated to reflect the current event. This is a bit moot anyway since the Auschwitz information was an anniversary and thus was at Selected anniversaries/January 27 (which was on the Main Page for an entire day). In the News guidelines are at In the news section on the Main Page. Cheers! --mav 04:31, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Studniówka
Thanks for your response. Indeed please do write education in Poland if you are knowledgeable about it. In general, also please cite your sources as well as you can with the best references available for a topic. I'm not sure Studniówka would have any really reliable references written about it, but education in poland certainly would. Citing reliable sources is what Wikipedia needs the most in the long run. Thanks - Taxman 21:06, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)

Vote on Talk:Gdansk/Vote
Hi. Since you have edited on pages with disputes about the names of Polish/German locations, I would invite you to vote on Talk:Gdansk/Vote to settle the multi-year dozens-of-pages dispute about the naming of Gdansk/Danzig and other locations. The vote has two parts, one with questions when to use Gdansk/Danzig, and a second part affecting articles related to locations with Polish/German history in general. An enforcement is also voted on. The vote has a total of 10 questions to vote on, and ends in two weeks on Friday, March 4 0:00. Thank you -- Chris 73 Talk 11:44, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)

Zlot Wikipedystów z Europy Środkowej i Wschodniej
Witam. Na Meta wyraziłeś swoje zainteresowanie zlotem, więc teraz informuje Cię, że powstała strona przeznaczona już tylko i wyłącznie do dyskusji nad organizacją Zlotu w Polsce: Wikimedia meetup Central and Eastern Europe/Poland. Zapraszam do zapoznania się z jej zawartością i wzięcia udziału w dyskusji nad kształtem Zlotu. Pozdrawiam. TOR 08:21, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:RussiaSubj11b.png
Hi! Could you, please, modify this image as per Talk:Federal subjects of Russia? Thanks much!&mdash;Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 00:59, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

Historical regions of Central Europe
Hi! I saw you created. However, can you also add the names and link it to the respective article, please? Thanks very much. --Eleassar777 13:02, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes I saw the map with labels, however in my opinion e.g. Slovenia is culturally part of Central Europe and so the new map should be used, so could you please label the states? Thanks very much. --Eleassar777 20:27, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)]

Euro coins: Obverse and reverse
On 12 June 2004, you changed the article Euro to replace (incorrectly) the "national" and "common" sides with "reverse" and "obverse". (It's the other way round.) In your change note, you just say "copyedit". Do you remember what it was that you copied? --Red King 12:13, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Polish Wikipedians' notice board
zapraszam.--Witkacy 13:24, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Map
Do you have the original files for Image:Pol-lith commonwealth map.jpg? A few problems with the image: Could you correct it? Thanks =Nichalp   «Talk»=  06:38, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) The format has to be .png (8-bit).
 * 2) The present borders are not clear.

Moving this article to Slavic-langauge-speaking people
Can you please do that? It would make more sense.

Requests_for_adminship/Halibutt
You may be interested in this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 19:36, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Rzeczpospolita
Done and added to where it belongs. Hope you like it, I'm not entirely happy with it, but that's how far my voice goes after a night and day at work, with 2 packets of cigarettes behind me and little sleep ahead.. Halibutt 11:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

No to Boleslaus
Actually I think that Bolesław is better then Boleslaus. See Talk:Boleslaus_I_of_Poland.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

WikiBreak
Good luck with your master's paper! Renata3 12:43, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll need it a lot. The paper is already long overdue. – Kpalion (talk) 12:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)