User talk:KrakatoaKatie/Archive 12

Admin Coaching Re-confirmation
Hello, previously you expressed interest in participating in the Admin coaching project. We are currently conducting a reconfirmation drive to give coaches the opportunity to update their information and capacity to participate in the project. Please visit Admin coaching/Status to update your status. Also, please remember to update your capacity (5th table variable) in the form of a fraction (eg. 2/3 means you are currently coaching 2 students, and could accept 1 more student). Thank you.  MBisanz  talk 09:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll do that when I come back. Not now. My current coachee is aware of my situation. - Krakatoa  Katie  10:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
For mopping up after me ;) --Stephen 07:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

about a deleted article
Dear K.K., you wrote the conclusion of the VfD of an article - did you observe that many of the reverted opinions (from keep to delete or the of the reasons for "keep") were done by the same user who initiated the VfD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Itointegral - and that the initial contribution of that user (his only contrib to article space), namely the phrase about "compact support" added in a math article, is simply wrong. I don't know what the article was like, but I think the person certainly meets more than one of the criteria given in PROF - in particular, SCOPUS (suggested as "the best way(...)" on Wikipedia:PROF) returns over 200 hits, which is very much in the field of mathematics. &mdash; MFH:Talk 20:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It would help if I knew the article about which you're writing. - Krakatoa  Katie  15:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

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Deletion Review for Leo J. Meyer
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Leo J. Meyer. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

I read above that you are on an indefinite wikibreak, so I apologize that I have not had a chance to discuss this DRV with you. I believe that notability and verifiability were established, and stated as much in the DRV. Mrprada911 (talk) 18:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hey there!
Plz don't add stupid things to Roosevelt's article... especially cuz I need it to do a research :P Max —Preceding unsigned comment added by Max0005 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding to Opinoso
The reason why I posted User:Opinoso at WP:AIV because he provoked me to do a personal attack by calling me racist in Talk:Italian settlement in Argentina, which I remember it is a violation of WP:NPA. I get the blame, yet Opinoso does not. I feel I am being ignored. And why am I being reported again, I did nothing wrong this time. Lehoiberri (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

re: agel article
I saw that you deleted an article I posted today regarding Agel. Until today I had not heard of this company. When I attempted to find info about it on Wikipedia (always my first stop) there was nothing available, so I did some research and took the time to follow procedures for adding a new article. Your reason for deletion referenced "advertising". This is odd since I listed references for any statements I made about the company, and the list of products the company sells does not make any endorsements other than to list what the company claims each particular product does (if you made an article about Flintstones chewables, I don't think it's advertising to say it is a "multi-vitamin" or that it "proposes to improve health"). If you could please go into further detail about which statements you found to be "advertising", I will certainly do what I can to make any needed changes.

I tried to look up this subject because I was trying to help a friend who came to me for advice and I didn't know anything about this company. I was sure that it would be on the list of MLM's (which I not only read, but read the individual company reports for to see examples of objectivity on such companies). When it wasn't, I did what we are all supposed to do for Wiki and that is roll up our sleeves and try and make it comprehensive by doing our part.

I look forward to your response.

vaylen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaylen (talk • contribs) 02:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

deletion of Stephania Gambaroff article
dear Katie, We would like to ask you to undelete the article about Stephania Gambaroff. Although it might seem like an insignificant bio, it carries certain importance. For one, the person described in the article is an extremely active contemporary artist that won awards and contributed to the development of contemporary art. For two, having the article about young brilliant artists in Wiki demonstrates Wiki's democratic views and support of the young independent ideas. For three, it will help this artist and many other young artists, who consciously choose the extremely difficult path of life in the arts, to simply survive. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.89.138 (talk) 00:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Article Deletion
Krakatoa Katie,

My name is Terry Gray and I am the Administrative Assistant to the Director of Northwest AHEC, a department of Wake Forest University School of Medicines. I was in the process of uploading/adding data about my department at the request of the Director to Wikipedia. Evidently, I did something incorrectly and the data that I entered was deleted due to a misunderstanding regarding copywriting. Please review the post to my talk where I have provided an explanation regarding where and what the information that I added to the article was pulled from.

Again, I would like to say that I do have permission to use this information and you can verfiy this by contacting my Director or inform me of what I need to do to add this information without penality.

Thank you.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by NWAHEC (talk • contribs) 02:56, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:WalterBryanEmery.jpg
Hello, KrakatoaKatie. I see you recently closed the discussion at Copyright problems/2008 February 2/Images regarding Image:WalterBryanEmery.jpg, saying, "It has a source, it has a fair use rationale, so it complies with WP:FU. Unless the copyright owner comes forward, I think we're good." I am frustrated that for a month and a half there was absolutely no attempt to address my concern that the given "source" for this image does not actually identify the copyright holder (as required by WP:FU), and then suddenly you give two sentences that bypass the issue and you close the debate. I am curious: Do you honestly believe that calgarycoin.com really holds the copyright to this image? Why calgarycoin.com and not leidenuniv.nl or egiptologia.pl? I am claiming that we have no information about the true copyright holder of this image, because we have no information about where this photograph originally came from. So far no one has been able to give any more information than "calgarycoin.com uses this image on their webpage," which doesn't clarify the copyright situation at all. —Bkell (talk) 17:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello – thanks for the message. According to WP:CITE, the uploader should give the author of the image, if known, and the URL from which it was downloaded. We don't know the original author of this image, but it's pretty evident this is a copy of the original photograph. In that case, all the uploader can do is provide the URL and a fair use rationale, which has been done. Wikipedia has thousands of images just like this one, with original author unknown and fair use claimed from the book/journal/URL in which it was found. We can't be paranoid but we should be prudent, and I believe this image has satisfied the requirements for fair use. The uploader gave _his_ source, he doesn't know the original author of the image, and there's no equivalent image I've been able to find to replace it. You can always go to WP:IFD.


 * I seem to be the only one working on the six week backlog at WP:CP, and I'd certainly appreciate some help if you're available. I asked at WP:AN but nobody came, so I guess I'm going to have to work at it alone. Thanks again for the message. Oh, and Boomer Sooner!! :-D - Krakatoa  Katie  22:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw your post over at AN and would be interested in helping out, but Do not edit this page/media until an administrator has resolved this issue. :P Tiddly  -  Tom  19:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Craig Everett deleted
I couldn't help but notice that the page about me was deleted:-)

I guess I'm probably not the best judge of my own notability, but there are at least two other wikipedia pages that refer to me, so I'm curious about what the threshold for notability is. Thanks!

Ceverett99 (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Craig Everett ceverett@usa.com

Template:Di-replaceable fair use-notice
Am I missing something or is there a reason you added the notice to the template? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Restore
RE: Restore Multidimensional organization, good catch, not sure how I missed that. Jeepday (talk) 02:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Response at my talk Jeepday (talk) 12:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Mouqol
Hello! :) Late last year, Mouqol was proposed for deletion.  Five days passed and no one contested it, so you deleted the article as expected.  In retrospect, I feel someone should have merged and/or redirected the article to List of Greyhawk deities. After the fact, I decided to create a redirect anyway. I'm wondering if it's possible to restore the original article, and turn it into a redirect, thus preserving the edit history? If you agree, you can obliterate the current edit history, or just add it to the original edit history. Thanks, BOZ (talk) 02:36, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

You're awesome, thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 04:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Paul Fusco Biography
hi Kate

Re :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Fusco

You deleted this article after someone apparently reported for copyright problems. I am Luke Robbins, the person who originally wrote this copyrighted text. I'd like to point out this article is NOT the property of TV.com, and is widespread across the net and also appears at IMDB as well. I originally wrote it on the TVTOME.com website many years ago and kept copyright myself and thats why the copyright notice appears. I have tried to add the GFDL license info to tv.com but it is no longer open to me to edit the text since my access to it was set up with tvtome.com, not tv.com. I'd like this article to appear on Paul Fuscos page here at wikipedia so if you could suggest some way for me to give you official permission other than this then i will arrange it. I had tried to notify people i was the copyright owner as soon as the original article was contested. thanks! Lukerobbins (talk) 00:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Lukerobbins

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RE: adminship
*Snort* That was worth a good chuckle. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 21:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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G12
Thanks for the heads up. Around that time I noticed the huge backlog, and it was the first time I had stepped into the copyright fixing. I was sticking to the instructions. But yeah, they should probably be changed. Thanks again. Jus tin (Gmail?)(u) 21:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Snoopy World.jpg
Please see note Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems/2008 March 26/Images, Jeepday (talk) 03:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Left a note at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems/2008 March 26/Images and deleted image. Jeepday (talk) 02:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

My RFA has closed
My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence §  t / e  18:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Why delete my Bio
I wrote an article about "Dr. Jeffrey A. Klein, MD", which you deleted. I indicated that it was a work in progress, but I also included the significance of the doctor. He was the inventor of Tumescent Anesthesia, and he is a leading figure in the world of dermatology and cosmetic surgery. I believe that the article was relevant (far more relevant than the article on Jeff Klein), unbiased, and thorough.

The information contained in the article was all properly cited as well. I'd like to know why it has been deleted, and IF its deletion is justified, what changes or additions are necessary (because i've read the standards of wikipedia biography, and I don't see where i erred).

Please advise me. Thank you.

Lukeklein (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright
Good Morning Kate

Would you do me a favor, after you look at an article on the list could you use the to strike it from the list if there are no remaining copyright problems in the article on the list? We we are both working at the same time or if I am working after you have looked at a bunch like with Copyright problems/2008 April 2/Articles I spend a good chunk of my time looking at articles you have already reviewed and then striking them from the list. The is in top line of the wiki markup: in the edit box when you are editing the page. Just use your mouse to highlight the text and click the and it will place them at the front and back of the text automatically. Jeepday (talk) 13:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Economy of Uzbekistan: Agriculture and Natural Resources
This is the first time I write to an Editor, so I apologize in advance for any breach of Wikiquette. On 15 April 2008 at 13:52 you fixed a red link to "Uzbek Ikat" on the above referenced page. It seems that the page for Uzbek Ikat has been deleted (I don't know when or by who), but there is still a Wikipedia page for "ikat". I accordingly restored the link to "ikat". Please note that the article "Ikat" now contains a red link to "Uzbek Ikat", which no longer exists. I leave to you the decision if to correct this red link or leave it as a reminder that "Uzbek Ikat" existed in the past. Zlerman (talk) 15:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Page Deletion - Eric Greitens
Good Afternoon Kate

It seems that you deleted my article on Eric Greitens. I received authority from Eric to use his biography as well as other information from the Center for Citizen Leadership website. I sent this to the permissions-commons email. Is there a way to put this page back up online after it is deleted?

Also, my article for the Center for Citizen Leadership was deleted. Sorry that it took so long to get back to Wikipedia with these authorizations, but I am only in the office on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and was not focused on this.

Thanks in advance.

Benchmark.stl (talk) 134:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Booyah!!!
Take a look at this! I wondered if this day would ever come. You're my hero - thanks so, so much for pitching in! - Krakatoa  Katie  17:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Great Job! Jeepday (talk) 01:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There are currently no suspects over 7 days old. Thanks for working with me on this. On a personal note I will be off line for what may be a week to several weeks beginning Friday.  I am not abandoning you,real life requirements call. Jeepday (talk) 04:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

The Dessert of Merit
Thank you, I posted to User:Jeepday/Recognition which is transcluded to User:Jeepday. Jeepday (talk) 04:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: WBP/Sandbox

 * My bad. I created it to test redirects to categories and forgot to blank it. Doing so now. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther! &spades; / &diams; 04:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

ACC
Hi! I approved you on the Toolserver ACC tool, so you should be able to access it now. Cheers, WODU P  08:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Re Admin Coaching
I'd be honored to be coached by you, and copyright is an area in which I'm a complete "n00b" :). So, any time you're ready, thanks a lot! The DominatorTalkEdits 13:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Done at user:Dominik92/Coaching, ready when you are. Good luck in your real life affairs and give me a shout when we can start, thanks. The DominatorTalkEdits 05:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

So when are we going to get started? Sorry for being impatient, just wondering. The DominatorTalkEdits 02:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Kerry McCluggage
Hi Katie,

I noticed that you deleted the Kerry McCluggage article which I had created. I would have appreciated being notified before you deleted this article; please follow proper Wikiquette in the future and notify the creator of an article before deleting it. I do believe Kerry McCluggage to be a notable biography. What would you suggest I do to recommend that this article be reinstated?

Neelix (talk) 21:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Katie,


 * I apologize for suggesting that you should have been the one to notify me; I should have realized that was not your responsibility. Thank you for reinstating the article.  I hope the references I have provided have sufficiently improved the article to remove doubt about its notability.


 * Neelix (talk) 13:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Hey just wondering who you are? lol I was googling myself and i saw this little article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.40.50.142 (talk) 08:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Courthouse Records Article
Katie,

The Courthouse Records article you deleted is, I believe, notable. Perhaps I failed to include links in the proper W format. In any event I'd like to try again and would appreciate any advice you can offer. I note that other record labels are considered notable. And at least one artist on Courthouse is in W.

Wally Wallythulin (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Arbitration
I'll keep an eye out, I may have comments. Would you keep me up to date on the progress? Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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Astronaut
I just worked some on Copyright problems, first time in a long while, and noticed you did a great job at cleaning up the backlogs there. Therefore....Garion96 (talk) 22:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)



Tie One
Hi. Deleted by PROD.

Additional to Van Derbeken, Jaxon. "Tragic Collision of Life and Art: Photographer who killed tagger may be charged", San Francisco Chronicle, December 14th, 1998 is:
 * Van Derbeken, Jaxon. "S.F. Grand Jury Exonerates Tagger's Killer", San Francisco Chronicle, December 15, 1998.
 * Spie. "The untimely death of a graffiti writer", San Francisco Chronicle, April 29, 1998. Via Pacific News Service.
 * Hill, Nic (director). Piece by Piece, Underdog, 2005. (six minute segment of feature-length film: Johnny Ray Huston in the SF Guardian said, "small elements of Piece by Piece could open up into larger movies – the poignant section devoted to Tie One is fleeting". 13 July 2006.)
 * and a big piece by A. Clay Thomspon in the SF Guardian on Tie One's legacy with four or five photos, but I can't find that :( Enough to undelete? 86.44.28.186 (talk) 08:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Much obliged. 86.44.28.186 (talk) 05:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Disklavier article in Wikipedia
Katie:

What on Earth happened to the long article on Disklavier? The only remnant of the item is the material I provided when authoring the article (in 2004/5?). A lot of work has been lost here, as contributed by a host of people.

Can I find out more about the severe change this article has experienced? I note that none of this shows up in the page's history. That's a shame.

Jamesmarcus (talk) 22:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Disklavier: A New Stub
KrakatoaKatie:

''Thanks for your response regarding the article. I do believe you are right. The stub I had begun in 2005 was added to frequently by those who did not necessarily share my love of good encyclopedic writing. Sorry to say, this ruined the article. I'm glad the original perseveres and will build this out again. Obviously, cutting and pasting from Yamaha's own Website defeats the purpose of having an intelligent article.''

Best, Jamesmarcus (talk) 02:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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Richard Arthur Norton/footnote request for arbitration is now open
This RFAr that you commented on has been accepted and is now open. If you wish you can add a statement on the Requests for arbitration/Footnoted quotes/Evidence page. Apparently it's valid just to copy your comment from the requests page (available here) and paste it to the Evidence page.

Thanks! RedSpruce (talk) 19:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

well put. It seems like a classic repetition of this list, sadly as true now as when I wrote it. Eusebeus (talk) 01:58, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Getting Something Straight
I'm not mad, just getting something straight. The comment you made on my talk page, was that to say I was wrong for reverting Clayoquot's page? Just getting it straight. Thanks! Camcd93 (talk) 07:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Done Drill Sergeant!
I've answered the questions on my admin coaching page, I'm not sure if you're watching it so just letting you know. <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 14:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Tao Hsieh Wu Shu
I understand why the page Tao Hsieh Wu Shu was deleted it took longer than anticipated for me to get permission to use info posted on Warriors For christ website. The permission is now in the footer of everypage for Wiki to publish said info. I am re-posting the wiki if you have any problems let me know

Ggama (talk) 11:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Tinkle help
Since you basically wrote my Twinkle stuff in my monobook, I was wondering if you could assist me in setting up something else. I notice that people can automatically, with Twinkle, report vandals (after the final warning step) to ANI vandalism. Can you help me out? Macs rule and all! Orange Marlin Talk• Contributions 01:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Combat photographer Russell Klika
I'm confused about why the article about Russell Klika has been nominated for deletion. I cited and sourced information. I didn't base it upon any format, other than gathering facts. He's a fairly well known combat photographer and instructor, so it seems worthy of an article. Any direction about this you could give me would be appreciated. I am not the editor of the original article about him, although I did go in before it was deleted to try and clean it up. I wasn't aware of any controversity -- until now -- concerning the Eye of the Storm gallery showing. Had I known, I would not have included it. Let me know what I can do to improve the article. Thanks very much. AuthorAuthor (talk) 02:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Suspected sock puppets/Mileycyruseminem
Could you please read this case and block what appears to be a block-evading sock? It looks like an easy case, and I'm asking you because you happen to be active right now. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 04:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the block
Hello KrakatoaKatie. Thank you for blocking the IP 72.48.125.93. Several of us were having to revert their ongoing vandalism tonight. I just wanted to let you know that I think that the IP was connected to User:Hellorawr. If you look at this editors contributions page here you will see that he/she was making the same kind of vandalising edits that the IP was. In fact the IP started after I posted warnings on Hellorawr's talk page. I don't know whether it is worth blocking Hellorawr or filing a SSP report. Rather, I just thought that I would let you know about the situation. Thanks again and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 05:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Accountcreator usergroup
Heya :) I notced you asssigned your sysop account the accountcreator usergroup. I thought I'd let you know that you don't need to do so, as sysops (and bots) are automatically exempt from any limits on account creation :) Oh, and, excellent work on the mail list recently :) Most of those posts wind up just going unanswered.... SQL <sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query me!  12:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've responded to your questions on my talkpage! :) SQL <sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query me!  07:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

IP blocked
Dear Krakatoa Katie , Thank you very much for your reply You tell me that I am not blocked, but my IP is blocked from contributions. As what I say before about my article " Emirates environmental Group " I don't know about that it is prohibited, especially that i am one of the group staff ! and the IP blocked is for the group, not for me, I don't know how to solve this problem, Waiting your reply With best regards Moayad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moayacoub (talk • contribs) 10:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Ards Peninsula abbeys
Hi, Katie. Regarding this, how do you know the source is freely licensed? Powers T 01:57, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice detective work. But how do we know the user who created the article is the same person as the one who posted it on the web?  Powers T 03:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see that now that I read your message more carefully. Do you think we need to attribute the original author though?  That seems to be implied by the text but I'm not sure.  Powers T 23:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Thanks for your patience.  =)  Powers T 02:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The COOKIE MONSTER ate the cow
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Just delete it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paulson

How is he notable? Maybe it was clearer when the plagiarized version was used? AFD? JerryVanF (talk) 05:26, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Tao Hsieh Wu Shu
Ok I did not fully understand what needed to be stated or how. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I and the rest of the Shihon Council appreciate the way that Wiki opperates and the quality control that you have. Master Geniesse is very impressed with the amount of effort you and the other moderators have put in to keep wiki accurat and compliant. I will have the nessary e-mail sent Ggama (talk) 13:31, 11 May 2008 (UTC)