User talk:KrakatoaKatie/Archive 16

Misery...
Hello, My name is Gary and I have been playing drums in the band "Misery" from Minneapolis for 24 years, we have noticed you had a role in deleting us from our wiki entry and would like to tell you that we are quite active as a band and are on our 16th release of our music, our 17th album will be out and available to the public by the end of 2010, we have had the same members for 21 years. I guess we would ask that you reverse your descision due to the fact that we are in fact a living and active band. If not, then you can just ignore our part in history and pretend that we are just a figment of others (mass mind control) and these fine people have never heard, purchased or seen a live perfomance by us, Well we just olayed 2 weeks ago so I guess we don't exist in your mind. sincerly, Misery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.202.184 (talk) 20:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

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User:142.162.192.210 and SPI
SPI isn't needed; it's a WP:DUCK case, and I've been dealing with this particular case for quite some time, and I do report any new IP socks to AIV because the reports are actioned faster; this user is, please just trust me and block them. Check their sock list at Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Kagome 85.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs 06:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Truth be told, I'm was away for a bit as well, due to multiple complications; the main was that my computer has had many issues. I believe my drive controller is acting up, and I need a new motherboard, as I'm on my 5th hard drive now, the past four all failed.  The first came with the computer, the later three, all hitachis, were failing on install, and now the latest, a western digital, is failing as well.  That aside..
 * Thanks regarding the further sock control about these two(they were dating or something and broke up, now they refuse to grow up and leave each other be). I wasn't exactly wholly transparent above, so let me be so now:  At some point in time, Kagome 85 was the girlfriend of the Moukity user(I've honestly lost track of his original username).  Then, later, they broke up, and each has been stalking and harassing the other on wikipedia.  At first, I was helping the Moukity user escape from Kagome; I gave them the 'cleanstart' link, and gave them some pointers such as 'don't edit the same articles you use to, don't mention the other user', etc.  Unfortunately, they did the exact opposite: they posted the other user's real name in several edit summaries, wikistalked them reverting all of their edits..   And eventually after I created an ANI thread on the matter, Georgewilliambert indef blocked both.
 * At this point in time, if I see any more socks of either, I'm going to start a ban discussion on both. I've had it that they are both unable to grow up and leave each other alone and get on with their lives.—  Dæ  dαlus Contribs 09:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I almost forgot about something you said; the bug for transcluded special pages and page titles.. it's been fixed in the current revision.. but not in the stable release.  The code is fixed.. we just don't have access to it yet.  I found that out when I tried to change 'resolved' to 'open' at the bug report.—  Dæ  dαlus + Contribs 10:45, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Donald Campbell and File:Donald Campbell.jpg
Hi Katie, I'd like to request an undelete on your recent deletion of this image (WP:CSD). This is for two reasons: ThanksAndy Dingley (talk) 11:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's the masthead, and only, image of a biography on an important motorsport and motorboat figure. Our precedent is clearly that such images are considered to fall under fair-use. If the FUR wasn't up to scratch on the image, then WP:BEFORE clearly indicates that the FUR should be fixed, not the image deleted. I've seen an awful lot of these lately - images uploaded a few years ago (so probably the more important images) with FUR that was adequate at their time of upload are being purged because they don't meet todays practice, even though it's a trivial filing exercise to bring them up to standard. This hurts the encyclopedia project.
 * Secondly, it wasn't notified anywhere on the article. There are templates for notifying this on the page, there's a talk: page too. Many people, myself included, have articles like this on their watch lists but we don't have every constituent image watched. Now whilst policy doesn't demand this, it would clearly be a helpful and appropriate action to place some notification onto the article, especially when it's the masthead that's under threat.

Magnagr AIV
Thanks for the heads up about the AIV issue, but I wasn't reporting User:Magnagr for breaking 3RR, I was reporting him for continuing to blank a section of the induction motor article after another user put a clear final warning on his talk page for it. But he seems to have gone quiet now, either way. --McGeddon (talk) 13:17, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Bionic protection
I just realized that I tagged it with the wrong tag. Meant to put semi-protected. Put a different request underneath it if it's allowed. ΣПDiПG – STΛЯT 23:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for the response. I get it. :P If it gets any worse, I'll be sure to report it again. ΣПDiПG – STΛЯT  23:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Logged out bots
Hi, Katie, this changed not that long ago, but we now softblock the IP when a bot is editing logged out, after an AN (or was it ANI?) discussion, and the Bot policy now reflects this. Courcelles 00:57, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'm from a later vintage; maybe we're just used to a more orderly 'pedia. Courcelles 03:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou for blocking 24.42.148.237
Thanks, but I don't think it will fully stop there, he/she is probably using another account (see the sock puppet) template I placed in his talkpage. You have stopped the madness, for now. Thanks. Tofutwitch11 - Chat - How'd I do?   02:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Here is something for you

Orphaned non-free image File:Smalldrummajornotext.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Smalldrummajornotext.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude ( talk  04:59, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

This day in history
Greetings. I stole that code for my own page. Is there a list somewhere that shows what will come up each day? Thank you... Smarkflea (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

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My question
Hi, friendly volcano, and thank you so much for answering so quickly. I'm mainly a Spanish and French speaker, and in the Spanish language there's a wiki specialized on role-playing games (you can have a look at it, here). That wiki doesn't have footnotes activated on it and my question is how I can do that. I guess you admins know how to activate or disactivate this kind of essential function. The fact is that I'll be very soon nominated as an administrator on that wiki and I need to learn how activate references (you know:, activated by mean of , or or other codes . Thank you again! Kintaro (talk) 23:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you again. I know about the page you suggest, but the only link I can find on it for my request is that one, a list of categories... and no mention on them of references... Mmmmmmmm... Do you know somebody who knows where the information is? or simply somedody who knows how to activate a references template? if I have to install a software I'll do it, of course, but I first need to know where the software is... Sorry if I insist, I don't want to disturb you. Kintaro (talk) 23:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Once again: thank you! I'll ask my question in the village pump. Yesterday I found this, and I guess they are the correct software and instructions to install and activate references in a wiki... Thank you again, you were really useful to me. Smak! (sound of a kiss from Paris, where I live). Kintaro (talk) 01:19, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems I have to discuss first with my collegues because I still don't have access to the folders of the wiki. But for now I know what to do: ask in the village pump about the proper use of the software... thx! Smak! (you now recognize that sound :) Kintaro (talk) 19:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll know, you'll know... I promess, But it will take weeks, may be months. I'll tell you anyway ! Mmmmm... Smak! Kintaro (talk) 23:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

AfD close petition
Would you consider reopening and relisting Articles for deletion/Mims–Pianka controversy so that a clearer consensus can get a chance to develop? __meco (talk) 02:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Mims–Pianka controversy
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Mims–Pianka controversy. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. meco (talk) 03:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

You did it again
You saved me again, thanks :D T ofutwitch11 ''' (T ALK ) 23:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * How's about you delete all the pages he created :D T ofutwitch11 ''' (T ALK ) 01:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I was looking into Shaolin Kempo Karate because of interest in possibly taking a class or two. It is the system taught by what appears to be a large chain of martial arts studios. I wanted to know a little about it's background, how it is viewed in the martical arts community, etc. Of course, I turned to Wikipedia as a potential source of hopefully objective information, only to find what appears to be a systematic deletion of any reference to it over a period of a couple years. So basically Wikipedia has no info on one of the most widely taught martial arts systems in the US. The reasons for deletion include references to the page not indicating the importance of the topic. Given the number of people being taught this form of martial arts, I would think it's importance was self evident. You might as well ask what is the imprtance of the rock band Uria Heap, or the TV series She Wolf of London, both of which are arguably more obscure than (and therefore of less importance than) Shaolin Kempo Karate and I can find pages on in Wikipedia on both. It just seems incredible to me that Wikipedia has no info on this form of martial arts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.60.85.223 (talk) 21:07, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Response to left message of yesterday
Thanks for reply in regards to the article: Paul Martin (illustrator). I uploaded to Commons a few months ago the orphaned-unused file: BoysandPups. And just recently the file: Pups. I was actually trying to replace the file "BoysandPups" with "Pups." But, it seems that even though that old file is not in the article, it remains on Commons. I wish it could somehow be deleted. The two images are very similar but not completely the same. I cropped and edited them differently, though both images are from the same original 1931 calendar in my possession. (I initially uploaded their images from my scanner to computer before uploading them to Commons.)

In other words, I'd like the picture BoysandPups at Commons to be deleted (by an administer?), because I made a better or another version of the image. I don't know how to do this. Can I go to the file of BoyandPups at Commons and leave a tag in the editing or ? Thanks again. Jim Percy (talk) 21:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

/* File:BoyandPups.jpg */more on same
You asked how it comes out. I don't know yet, but, I did go to wikimedia commons and place a tag for speedy deletion on the file:BoyandPups. (That was one or two days ago.) Maybe, my reasoning for its deletion (basically because of duplication) could be improved upon, as I've never done this before. Jim Percy (talk) 15:52, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Admin coaching
Hi KrakatoaKatie, I was wondering if you would consider being my admin coach? Also welcome back! :) Regards, —  Ancient Apparition •  Champagne?  • 10:05pm • 11:05, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response, I understand, I wasn't so focused on the content writing, more so the administrative areas of Wikipedia but as you can see that didn't go well. I was fairly new when I welcomed all those users and still unaware of the commonplace practices and behaviours observed by others. Regards, —  Ancient Apparition •  Champagne?  • 6:19pm • 07:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks (and sorry!)
Hi Katie...just wanted so say thanks for protecting the Biffy Clyro article I suggested and sorry I referred you to a redirect page. Am still very new to this! Andyplymouth (talk) 05:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

ARV
Listen, can you not remove reports just because you think they're "old"? My request for an IP vandal to be blocked was never responded to because you removed it and now I had to restore it. -- GunMetal Angel  16:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for your help at Powerchip. I knew there were problems but I did not know the extent. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  06:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey KrakatoaKatie, Thanks for notifying me of that, I had completely spaced out when I set my signature that I forgot to link it to my User Page. I've updated it now so you, and the other Wikipedia editors shouldn't have any problems with that. -=- Adam Walker -=- 01:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

3RR
Im not sure why you sent me a 3RR warning message. I only made two reverts in 24 hours and not three on the Falklands War article.-- MFIreland  • Talk  01:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

3RR Block
I'm coming here in good faith and I know everyone makes mistakes, I have no hard feelings and just pointing out a mistake/poor judgement as part of WP:GBU. Mistakes aren't bad especially if we learn from them. Earlier you randomly blocked me with no prior warning, after another user, User:Addihockey10 (similar user name, no relation) brought an edit war review up for User:BuckeyeDave. I was cited as violating- in future situations it would be helpful for you not to rush and doublecheck which user is disrupting Wikipedia before blocking both users, especially when one clearly states in various locations they are reverting unconstructive edits.
 * First- I was at 3-4 reverts- that's boarderline 3RR at best and would better be handeled with a warning, then I could have explained my reasons at that time. Also being around the 3RR mark if my last revert was again challenged I was planning on taking it to an admin.
 * Second- regardless of the number of reverts my edit summaries in the article history and discussion between myself and BuckeyeDave's clearly indicated I was reverting unconstructive edits with major Copyvio, lack of sourcing, and POV issues, of which Copyvio is one of the major exemptions to 3RR.

I've never been blocked before or even warned that I was close to a block until you started randomly handing them out earlier. I'm hopeful that it was a mere inconvenience and the block doesn't become a black mark when I apply for adminship in the future or for the reviewer and autopatrolled rights I currently have. Thanks and happy editing! Bhockey10 (talk) 10:55, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit war
Katie, I read your comments to Bhockey10 on his talk page. I would ask you to read the comment I posted for you on my talk page. Sorry to bother you this way, just wanted to make sure you saw my comment. Please go ahead and remove this and leave any additional comments on my page. Thanks --BuckeyeDave (talk) 15:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi, I couldn't help noticing you're tackling one of the toughest on this month's dab list, Real-time. That's a great help for the WP:DPL project, especially since it's such a tricky one to take care of. Thanks for the contribution and welcome to the project! -- Ja Ga  talk 22:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Semi protection.of Comparison of AMD graphics processing units
Thank you for your for your assistance by responding to my protection request. However, the new products that had attracted undesirable attention, have been recently released. I believe it is safe to unlock the article since there is plenty reliable information about them at the moment. Please express you opinion about proposed deletion of the article since you obviously found nothing wrong with the article itself.--Prandr (talk) 22:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

/* Barkha Dutt */
Hey Krakatoa, many thanks for the protection on the Dutt BLP. Off2riorob (talk) 02:03, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Revdel
I've undone that, as I didn't see that it rose above the level of ordinary incivility, which is not subject to the very strict revision deletion criteria. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:06, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

2010 PTS
Can you please lower the protection on 2010 PTS as there isn't an edit war going on. Its just Dj258 keeps vandalizing the article by adding tropical depressions that have not formed. Eg this edit in which he claims the JTWC monitored a tropical depression for just two hours, but isnt backed up by any relaible sources as the JTWC numbers their tropical depressions. Also here in this edit he reckons Tropical Depression 20W has formed but there has been no advisories on it by the warning centers.Jason Rees (talk) 01:34, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.Jason Rees (talk) 02:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Bambu
Hi Katie. Thank you for being involved with the protection process with the Bambu page. I am wondering why exactly the image on the site has been removed? Is there a reason for this? Thank you. --ArnaudMS (talk) 07:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. I know this image is in the public domain, as the company has let me use it before. I am a rolling paper collector and have placed it within a video. How would I go about placing it back on the page, for I think it is a significant aspect of the brand, and their most iconic culture image... I see that it is also on numerous other websites as well discussing the history of Bambu: Thank you for your time at patience at educating me of the wikipedia process! It is much needed. --ArnaudMS (talk) 14:42, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hello

Reference Facility Management edit: It appears KrakatoaKatie did some severe pruning of the entry. Not saying it did not need it but we are left with a very poor reference to a discipline that is normally the second biggest cost to a business after staffing. It is almost worthless now. One end of the operational spectrum may be cleaning a blocked toilet but at the other there is the emergency planning process, in place to protect the lives of potentially thousands of people in the event of fire or terrorist attack.

Sidpickle (talk) 15:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

The size of Wim Crusio's Wiki page
Hello Katie,

As of December 22nd, 2010 the Wim Crusio Wiki page constituted 28,725 bytes of information, where as the Wiki page for Ernest Rutherford, "The father nuclear physics" and winner of the nobel prize, only has a Wiki page of 27,302 bytes as of December 22nd, 2010, and Maurice Wilkins who won the nobel prize for his co-discovery of the structure of DNA has a wiki page of only 23,014 bytes, while Elizabeth Blackburn who won the nobel prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2009 has only 11,065 bytes on her wiki page. I could add many more names of nobel prize winners, but if you wish to do so, please feel free to compare the amount of information in Wim Crusio's wki page to that of most nobel prize winners. I just thought I would point this fact out to the wiki community and ask for your comments on Win Crusio's Wiki page. Please comment on weather you think it is too large and perhaps should be reviewed or if you think the wiki pages of Ernest Rutherford and many of his fellow nobel prize winners are simply too small. Please feel free to leave your comments below this post. Bondiveres (talk) 21:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Listed are wiki page sizes of all the nobel prize winners for Physiology or Medicine for the last 8 years. Please compared these to Wim Crusio's wiki page of 28,725 bytes:

Robert G. Edwards 11,098 bytes Jack W. Szostak 7,504 bytes Carol W. Greide 9,605 bytes Elizabeth Blackburn 11,065 bytes Luc Montagnier 18,028 bytes Françoise Barré-Sinoussi 6,950 bytes Harald zur Hausen 9,985 bytes Oliver Smithies 14,131 bytes Martin Evans 24,109 bytes Mario Capecch 13,940 bytes Craig Mello 14,217 bytes Andrew Fire 9,262 bytes Robin Warren 5,187 bytes Barry Marshall 13,074 bytes Linda B. Buck 6,617 bytes Richard Axel 19,924 bytes Peter Mansfield 5,684 bytes Paul Lauterbur 14,653 bytes John E. Sulston 7,715 bytes H. Robert Horvitz 4,080 bytes Sydney Brenner 14,580 bytes

Note: All amounts displayed are as of 22 December 2010, and the average page size of these Nobel Laureates is 11,496 bytes, which is less than half that of Wim Crusio's wiki page of 28,725 bytes.

Based upon the above data, it would appear that a certain amount of information on Wim Crusio's wiki page was added by a sock puppet that he created in order to promote him self. I can only suggest this based on what I see from the data. I can not imagine how else Wim Crusio can have a wiki page more than twice the size of the average Nobel Laureates in Physiology or Medicine for the last 8 years. I hope this is not the case, but I welcome your thoughts on this. I only ask one thing, and that is to explain how Wim Crusio's wiki should be more than twice the size of any of the Nobel Laureates in Physiology or Medicine for the last 8 years and twice the size of an average winner of that prize. I look forward to hearing your comments. Bondiveres (talk) 22:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello Katie,

I have posted the above posting regarding the size of Wim Crusio's wiki entry on his talk page, and he has removed it. What should I do? Please refer to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Crusio

Bondiveres (talk) 23:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Your forced deletion of my images
Hi--

You have apparently forced deletion of a couple of the images I uploaded. One is File:10-inch-1896-DC.jpg and the other is File:12-Inch-Mortar-M1908.jpg.

I'm kinda new here (have written only about 25 articles) and did not realize one's images could be removed without any direct warning (I come around and check my user page infrequently during the holidays).

I doubt that there is any problem with (c)--I use mostly government images or ones published before 1920. Trouble is, now I can't even call up the images' description pages to check.

Could you please restore these so that I can deal with whatever criticisms of my work have been made?

Thanks, -Paul Pgrig (talk) 17:08, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Pgrig (talk) 19:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The image 10-inch-1896-DC.jpg comes from the archives of an organization called the Coast Defense Study Group (CDSG.org), and was distributed to me (one of its members) by them. The image 12-Inch-Mortar-M1908 comes from a publication entitled The Military History of Boston's Harbor Islands, by Gerald Butler, Arcadia Publishing, 2000. I am using it with permission of the author, but I believe this is beside the point. I believe the important factor, from a copyright perspective, is that both these photos were almost certainly made by the U.S. Army (the Coast Artillery Corps). The first was likely taken about 1915-1920 and the second about 1943. How would you, or WP, like me to handle this? If I should add this information somewhere, please tell me where.

Fishnet
Where sarong? Show please! Would like to borrow, to catch silly brother Fish, give him a scare! [Chuckles at thought. ]  darwin bish  BITE 18:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC).

Triple H protection
Hi it seems you move protected the Triple H article when it was edit protection that was needed I figured I should take this up with you before going back to WP:RFPP.-- Steam Iron  06:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * just stopping by to see if had seen this yet.-- Steam Iron  22:32, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, good grief - I can't believe I futzed that up. It's fixed now, both edit and move for three months. Don't wait for me next time - just ask at RFPP and tell them I somehow messed it up, and they'll fix it. Or you can ask one of the admins who regularly patrols RFPP, like Courcelles, for example. Thanks for letting me know about this, and I apologize. :-)  K rakatoa    K atie   23:45, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Its no problem I just figured i would try you first.-- Steam Iron  00:43, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Facility Management
Thanks for the contact. With 40 years in the business and a degree in the subject I am sure I could write a brief introduction on the subject and list the many of the key disciplines associated with FM, linking these to other entrys (it could be a mammoth task), however I did look back at the (many) edits and it was a bit depressing. The problems with FM are that there are so many variations and so many companies trying to muscle in, as you explained reference the mops. I am sure any work I put in would soon be modified by others with differing views or with an agenda. Perhaps one of the FM institutes should get involved with this one? Would it be OK to ask the institute I am a memeber of to consider getting involved with editing the entry? Is this within the ethos of Wikipedia or is it discouraged?

Sidpickle (talk) 17:32, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Repeat of Ekal Vidyalaya
Hello Katie, I notice that the posting regarding Ekal Vidyalaya is no longer on your page. I would like to confirm that you had read it and had the chance to respond to it (as opposed to someone else). I think reposting it would be beneficial to other viewers and yourself. Thanks. 66.194.2.9 (talk) 00:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)BullockCarts

Facility Management
Katie, thanks again for the your help. Happy Christmas and New Year.

Sidpickle (talk) 08:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Facility Management
Katie - sorry me again. Still reading the instructions and noted your comments. One other piece of advice please. We are parted by a rather large bit of water called the Atlantic so sitting in the UK we do have a common purpose but slightly different regulations, etc. Many of the cross references that would be useful in the FM entry are on Wiki such as Building Regulations and Planning Permission but are specific to the UK therefore, the USA/rest of world readers would be a bit confused. Also many other references to things such as the control of legionella, asbestos management, etc. can be reference to a whole series of freely available approved codes of practice in the UK but again this would not work for the non UK reader. How do authors normally deal with this international aspect? Am I missing something very obvious? Sidpickle (talk) 09:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

re: Requests for page protection
Hi, can you look this over for me. The IP has returned to remove valid cleanup edits (yet again). He watches this page like a hawk -- and has for the past few years. Any attempt to discuss anything with him results in him switching IPs and undoing the changes again. He has prevented cleanup of this page for several years now and has chased several editors away from it. There's some frustration with this noted on the talk page, and lots in edit summaries going back several hundred edits.  Them From  Space  10:14, 21 December 2010 (UTC)