User talk:KrakatoaKatie/Archive 9

WITASWAN page
Hey Katie,

I noticed that you deleted my WITASWAN wikipedia page yesterday at 6:25pm. I am writing to you about that page.

I'm a freelance writer and was contracted to write a page about WITASWAN, an Illinois-based initiative. This is my first time writing a wiki article, and I actually wasn't finished but posted by mistake. I'm working to revise and make it longer, which I'll be doing in Microsoft Word first. Sorry about this error. I hope that, when the WITASWAN page is ready later today, you can restore it. There will be a lot more info on it, and I do think it will qualify as a Wikipedia page. How does that sound to you?

Thanks for taking time to to read this message. I hope to hear back from you soon. WITASWAN 15:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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Harris Newmark
I want to congratulate you on the great job you did on Harris. You organized and added a lot of info that I hadn't, i.e., all the languages, the school, the building etc. It was the first article I'd ever written for Wikipedia, and I've some questions for you. But, First, I wanted to tell you about Montebello. I think around beginning of 2007, I was taken to it on the Wikipedia site, and there was no or little mention that the city had been called Newmark, then in 1920, Montebello. I added some of the history, and the people connected it, as I recall they seemed to go from Repetto to Mulholland to Montebello. I don't want to sound paranoid but the lack of references and the changing of pioneer names seem to occur more often, at least in Los Angeles, if the pioneer is Jewish. But at least some of the interest about him is changing; there are History of Los Angeles (his book a necessity) courses in the local colleges and many have "Center for Jewish Studies.

Anyway, my questions. If I want to refer to a book, from something that was said in the article how do I do it? I saw you had Harriet Rochlin's book, as # one and then it led to References and then when you clicked on her book it went to a google book search and the showed some info and the where you could buy it. How do you do this? Also for newspaper or magazine articles? They all also seem to have the square with the arrow, References and External links. When I go to your edit I can see how you did the External links as they go to web pages, http: but for your References it has something in something called reflist /2 in brackets for all the books? I've tried to look at the tutorials but they seem confusing. Maybe you know an exact one I can use. I'd appreciate your help. I assume you'll leave a message on "my talk" page?

lindalevi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindalevi (talk • contribs) 01:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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AeA edits
Thanks for fixing that. I will see what you did and read that big paragraph sometime tomorrow. Alas it is 5:00am here and I need to go to bed!! (Too sleepy to process information). Happy Knitting. Sauda d e 7  02:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

ICD-10
Hi, I saw your comment on Copyright problems/2007 September 29/Articles regarding this article. I agree with you and Rodek and deleted the article as a copyright violation. Also, thanks for helping out on Copyright problems. That really was one huge backlog. Garion96 (talk) 19:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Working on WP:CP is not so difficult, with some exceptions. It gets harder after you delete stuff, you will get messages from people with "WTF did you delete my article/image" "admin abuse" etc etc. :)
 * I found the discussion regarding the insignia's here. I do think Videmus Omnia is correct in this regard though. He also left you a message on my talk. He's fast. (probably still had my talk on his watchlist). Garion96 (talk) 20:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

G12 speedy deletion of Jason Class (LST)
Thanks for the heads up. I hadn't ever seen the 48 hour time limit before, glad you let me know! N b u r d e n (T) 22:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, still had your page on my watchlist. Just fyi, the 48 hour requirement is no more. Jimbo Wales removed it from the speedy deletion criteria over a year ago. Garion96 (talk) 22:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

*mandatory volcano joke*
I see you've been closing a few of the articles I AfD'd. Well, I'm not complaining :) Will (talk) 17:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I can kind of get the jist :) Will (talk) 17:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Automagic Image Help
Thanks for the help Katie, everything works smoothly now and that's much appreciated! - Akoi Meexx 19:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

The town of Newmark
Hi (Katie?),

Thank you for all your written help. I saw it a few days ago and will read it and reread it, and I'll probably set up some kind of dummy test. As far as what the town of Montebello/Newmark was called in looking at your changes, again, I think you have it right, but I have access to a footnote not in the original book, which is on-line at The Library of Congress. I have the 3rd edition 1970, and the 4th 1984 and there were two others in 1926 and 1930. (I had a Memorial edition limited to fifty copies edition number 25 and donated that among many other Newmark/ Levi papers and ephemera to the Autry National Center this year.) Since the town name officially became Montebello in 1920, the footnote must be in the second edition, 1930, edited by his son Marco R. Newmark who was probably really really angry.

Library of Congress: Sixty years in Southern California, 1853-1913, containing the reminiscences of Harris Newmark, edited by Maurice H. Newmark; Marco R. Newmark ...Page 555

Kaspare Cohn, J. D. Bicknell, I. W. Hellman and S. M. White, in conjunction with myself, bought the Repetto Ranch from the brother, before he left for Italy, for sixty thousand dollars. All in all, the heir, who survived the date of his windfall but a few years, carried away with him the snug sum of one hundred thousand dollars.

This fine domain, lying between Whittier and Los Angeles, was apportioned long before 1899, among the five purchasers. In that year, Kaspare Cohn and I, on the advice of William Mulholland, developed water on our undivided share, meeting with as great a success as has attended all of the operations of that eminent engineer. After an abundance of water was secured, we sold the property in five-acre and smaller lots, locating the town site of Newmark (1) near the tracks of the San Pedro, Los Angeles & Salt Lake Railroad, and naming the entire settlement Montebello.

(1) Page 555, Note 1: On October 16, 1920 changed to Montebello,- another of the many instances in recent years of the lack, among Californians, of proper historic respect for pioneer names.

I didn't use footnotes, because, of course, I don't know how,

Thanks again, Linda Levi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindalevi (talk • contribs) 00:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello again!
Hi! I was just meandering through my history, and found this - turns out you're an admin now - you've beaten me to it! Well done! Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry 03:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing Issues
Hey! Thanks for the comments. I'll make sure I leave more edit summaries and make use of the preview more often. Didn't really think of the vandalism monitoring issues, especially since it shows up as an edit by a registered user, but I suppose that it can create a hassle. Even though I'm a fairly advanced user, I suppose it holds true that we all have things to learn! nf utvol 03:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The Wild Wild Westmar Show
KrakatoaKatie, could you please be so kind as to put the recently deleted "The Wild Wild Westmar Show" article into my User Space? Thank you. Herbert Arthur 15:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Copyright problems - minor edit issue
Hello, and VERY happy to see you working on the copyright violations backlog!

One very minor thing: When you remove a day, as you did here, please don't leave a blank line between the comment about zorglbot and the list of days remaining - that causes zorglbot to add new days first, rather than last - which looks confusing!

Greetings again from a slow co-worker, and wonderful to see you there! --Alvestrand 06:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

anon IP & countries
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm quite tired of correcting obvious nonsense ("So-and-so is a United States Senator from Nebraska, USA") and getting an argument about it (there was/is a personal attack on my talk page from him about this). Basically, 99% of his edits need to be reverted. Again, thanks. - Special-T 20:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Not made in USA or UK
That says it all! Not everybody lives or reads in one of the imperial powers. I write for those struggling with English in "lesser" countries. I am sorry I can no longer offer to stop writing articles and stop donating - I did that in response to a (prob male) bully who deleted an article of mine. Now a (prob female) bully comes out of the woodwork. I guess it gives a sense of power to otherwise impotent people. Time to change IP address ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.89.55 (talk) 21:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

TDC on Michael Ledeen

 * What does it matter if TDC reported himself, he violated the 3RR and he should be blocked. I've learned the hard way what happens when you violate 3RR and I never got any special exemptions. You violate it you get blocked, period. He's trying to enforce his own POV on the article and bogusly cites certain rules when there convinient. I request again he be blocked. annoynmous 05:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC) Sorry I forgot to officially sign in, just thought I'd let you know it was me. annoynmous 05:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Ohio University
I did not add any material to the article, so don't tell me: "Keep your opinions on the talk page." My only contributions were to REVERT blanking (which in considered Vandalism) and adding the NPOV and COI tags. Get your facts straight before you accuse please. IP4240207xx 22:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yet another classic example of someone who asks the question but does not want the answer. - Krakatoa  Katie  22:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hear, hear Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry 22:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

TomJBlane
Ok, so him calling me psycho and continuing to attack me and place blame on me isn't vandalism. Can you at least block him for a little while to get him out of my hair. He seems to have a single purpose in being here, and that purpose appears to be to get me blocked. I'd appreciate a little help for once. It seems in the month or so I've been here, I've only received minimal amounts of help with dealing with vandals. Tyler Warren (talk/contribs) 23:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks....I was just worried because he keeps claiming me to be the one harassing him (which truthfully, all I did was give him a warning and he flipped out and called me psycho) and he claimed that I would be "Banned again soon" which also leads me to believe he is a previously banned user using a new account, however I do not know how to do a Checkuser on him. But thanks for showing interest and helping out. I appreciate it. Cheers! Tyler Warren (talk/contribs) 23:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

IP block
Hi Katie. Sorry, this is my first time reporting a vandal. I may have forgotten to link you to the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eagle_Mountain%2C_Utah&diff=165264768&oldid=165264599 Should I be the one reverting this or does a moderator do it? This guy is on his 4th vandalism. Doesn't that constitute a permanent block of the IP? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.76.119.176 (talk) 04:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Department of Geography
Just wondering if you can explain to me why you deleted the page Department of Geography University of Canterbury, especially when none of the community asked for its deletion. At very least it should have been merged which is what the community was suggesting (those of us that were not asking for it to be kept). Can you explain why the first Geography Department and one of only two remaining Geography Departments in Australasia is not notable enough to be in wikipedia. There was no advertising for the place in the article so as far as I could see it fitted the rules stated in Wikipedia about articles. I would appreciate some feed back as to whether the page can be fixed and what I would need to add to it in order to not have it deleted again. I do not wish to spend more time on this if it will be deleted again. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks Chopperxs202.36.179.66 22:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

(crossposted to User talk:Chopperxs


 * Hello – thanks for the message. I messed up – it should have been closed as a merge to University of Canterbury. I don't know what I was thinking by closing it as 'delete'. I really have no excuse, and I apologize.


 * I think, though, I have a better solution for you than undeletion. The two articles won't stand on their own, so undeleting them will only put a time clock on you to merge the content into the university article. So, I've taken the text of each article and userfied both. You can find them at User:Chopperxs/Geography and User:Chopperxs/Engineering. You can edit them or expand them, and you can add their content to the university article when you're ready. It also takes away any time pressure from a decision to merge, since you can have almost anything you want in your userspace as a subpage like these.


 * Don't add categories or any templates to the pages, because categories and templates belong in the article space.


 * Again, I apologize – I must have been distracted when I read the discussion, and I have no excuse. I hope this solution is acceptable, and as I said, I think it's a better fix than undeleting the articles. Thanks for letting me know about my screw-up. - Krakatoa  Katie  02:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Pontiac Montana
Thank you for fulfilling my request Katie, but I feel I have a minor objection: The page has been semi protected before, and the IPs have simply waited out the protection. The last times that the page was protected, it was for a week, so I am concerned to whether or not this will slow them up. These Ips seem to either be GM employees, or GM enthusiasts, so they are ultra determined to gloss up the articles relating to their minivans. And, seeing that both of the current Ips have attacked me on my talk page, I highly doubt that they will discuss this. They are just going to do like always; wait the protection out then start forcing their POV again. I wish for the page to be semi protected indefinitely. Maybe after a couple of months, or in 2008, the page can be unprotected, and this will have finally blown over, as they will have gotten tired of waiting and will have either forgotten or given up. That is just my opinion though. You are the administrator, and I will respect your decision over this, whatever it is. Karrmann 21:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * THank you Katie! But now, I am running into more problems there. One of the IPs is now creating accounts to get around the semiprotection, and is adding misinformation. Mainly, he is claiming that production is going to continue, as he is a fan who seems to be in denial of the fact that the Montana is doomed. The fact is that GM is exiting the minivan business since their last batch of vans flopped badly, and are instead going to invest in Crossover vehicles. However, this guy keeps changing the info, saying that they are going to continue production of the Montana. *Sigh* I swear, these guys just aren't going down without a fight. Karrmann 22:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Merger of Everyones Internet and The Planet Internet Services
Hi there! If I read the history right, you are the one who closed the merger discussion regarding these pages. Can you shed some light on my query posted here? I'd appreciate it. I'm a newbie to mergers and such of wiki pages, so I may just be misreading the header. - Ageekgal 04:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello about Amir Khan (boxer)'s page
Hello and Thank You for your contribution on his page. Lil&#39;Khan 17:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC) (The editor of the page Amir Khan (boxer)

Regarding Telstar Logistics
Telstar Logistics is a real company. If you want the corporate website, here it is. Although it's only one guy going around San Francisco taking professional pictures, it's a corporation. -Go od  sh oped 23:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Harris Newmark
In the article on Harris it says, "On Mulholland's suggestion, the entire tract, including the Newmark town site, was given the name Montebello.[8]." But if you go to the reference, http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/calbk:@field(DOCID+@lit(calbk023div45)), it doesn't mention that Mulholland suggested the name, but I can't seem to change this and keep the [8] reference. for some reason it changes to [4]. Could you change the info? Lindalevi 00:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)Lindalevi

Margery Eagan
I would like to dispute the CSD of this article. I can't tell for sure, since the article is now deleted, but I believe that notability can be asserted. Can you restore and send it to AfD please? - Crockspot 16:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Janis Joplin, Karyn Kupcinet, etc.
Hi. I am the person who reported the 3RR violation regarding the Joplin article and am honestly trying to make both of these articles better with as little dissension as possible. I'd like to point your attention to issues that have arisen this evening since Dooyar returned to WP. We had a good consensus on the biased tone of some of the things added to Joplin and we felt that what was left was a balance between what Dooyar wanted to add and a less POV tone. Some changes have been made that seem very arbitrary, and he basically threatened me on his talk page. I did tell him that the next step for the Joplin article would be requesting dispute resolution. All I can ask is "help"! I don't know what steps to take next and would really appreciate some advice. Wildhartlivie 04:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Once more into the breach
I wanted to ask you to take a look at how another issue has been unfolding. It has me beating my head against the monitor and stressing out to no end (which I'm not really healthy enough for). I don't know if I've handled this in an ideal way, but I certainly have tried to ignore the subterfuge to stick to the point as much as I could. Another editor is trying to take it a whole different direction until I finally gave up and asked for a WP:CP investigation. If you have time, would you please take a look at Talk:Dan Antonioli? There are links in the text that show where I posed the question and the responses that I got. Was I unclear about what I believe is the issue? Am I being malicious or out of line in questioning how this is being used? Am I obligated to offer the solution when all I want to know is whether it's a problem? Do I HAVE to know the solution to recognize a problem? Thanks for your help. Wildhartlivie 13:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've replied at the article talk page. To sum up: it is a copyright infringement, and the article is eligible for deletion under WP:CSD, but as I was asked to look I won't delete it myself. - Krakatoa  Katie  22:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Question on protected edits
Hi Katie. I'm one of the more recent editors on Steam (content delivery), and i want to get this page cleaned up. I'm a bit unsure of how to get started, though. Should we just make a list of edits to be made and then submit them? Should we make a mirror of the page (say, "Steam (content delivery)/Protected edits") and get a new version going there, and then submit that? I haven't yet had this sort of experience on Wikipedia, and I could use a hand in getting started. Thanks for your help! &mdash;  Hello Annyong  [ t &#183; c ] 14:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

User talk:68.149.188.69
Hello Katie. Following on from the mistaken block / unblock, I've left an apology on the above talk page. I'm sorry I mistook the edits - this is a rare mistake for me (with all due modesty). Best wishes, Ian Cairns 10:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Question
Hi. I just saw that the author of the copyvio issue above went to a couple other administrators about the issue and kind of misrepresented the sequence of events and issue. In short, he removed the copyvio tag, obstensibly under the OK of one of the adminstrators (though I can't find where it was said to take it off). While he did pare down the quotes, which was the issue, I have to think this isn't the outlined process for this. I know the copyvio tag has a different process outlined than the one that was taken. He had archived the page to his sandbox several hours before you had even looked at it. I don't know, but it certainly has all the hallmarks of a passive-aggressive run around play to me. Doesn't this have to go through the resolution process once it's brought up? Wildhartlivie 00:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I also offered this comment on the Dan Antonioli talk page in response to the assertion that basically, Google does it all the time and it's all good for them. Since you've worked on copyright issues before, please let me know if I'm misunderstanding the issue:


 * From the copyright decisions that I've read in detail over the last few days, the issue of displaying the lead paragraph, or a thumbnail of an image, in a search engine has not been found to be the issue. The copyright violation occurs when the search engine or webpage hosts the material. Since Google frames the page which is in actuality loaded by the computer of user employing the search engine, Google has been able to avoid liability on this.


 * The issue here is, for copy & pasted paragraphs & full biographies into a reference, is that Wikipedia becomes the host for the material, and this example we are considering, material in excess of what is being used in the body of the article. And that, according to the Ninth Circuit of the United States Court of Appeals, is a copyright violation. There have been a whole passel of copyright issues here over improper use that I've come across while researching discussions on WP the last few days - in requests for comment, articles & images for deletion and copyright violations. This issue is representative of the same. Wildhartlivie 06:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Please undo recent changes
Hello,

Thank you for helping with a page I added a few months ago, titled, Lloyd Schermer. I am not very good at this, but I am careful (very careful) not to put incorrect info on Wikipedia. There is indeed a Smithsonian American Art Museum in Washington, DC. Here is a link to the site along with the work they have of Lloyd Schermer: http://americanart.si.edu/search/search_artworks1.cfm?StartRow=1&ConID=27306&format=short

The museum is quite important. It is also quite important for an artist to have his or her work in this museum and listed in their bio.

Would you be so kind as to put the page back to how it was. If you have any questions about Lloyd's work, here is a link to his bio on our web site: http://www.magidson.com/Schermer/schermer_bio.html. Or email me at Thank you,

magidsonMagidson 01:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Margery Eagan
Hello KK. I think I have improved Margery Eagan enough to avoid deletion. It could still use some work, but it should do for now. Thanks again for restoring it. - Crockspot 02:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Charles McKnight
Umm, why did you undo me in this article? Did you look at the link removed? As I say in my edit comment, it is essentially not germane: if we include as a link in every article every scant mention made of its subject somewhere online, Wikipedia will be an even worse mess than it is already. I suspect you went too fast... 14:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * (crossposted to User:Bill Thayer, who didn't sign his note, and relevant portions posted to Talk:Charles McKnight)


 * Hello – thanks for the message. I reverted you because I'm the person who expanded this article from a stub. I have a Questia annual membership at my own expense (if it's any of your business) and I find it valuable because it's easy to search, read, and do work on different projects. I did several hours of research on Questia and elsewhere before I expanded it, and I added every reference in the article using Questia and other research tools.


 * The source in question, The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745–1799, edited by John C. Fitzpatrick, is used at Wikipedia in George Washington and Jonathan Plowman Jr., and it should be used _more_ often, not less. The papers take up 39 volumes at the Library of Congress. They were edited by Fitzpatrick as part of the Washington Bicentennial, when the Library of Congress cooperated with Fitzpatrick to organize and publish them under the authority of Congress. It is a United States Government Printing Office document, it is available on microfilm at the Library of Congress, several hardcover volumes are available at Amazon.com, and it is available online here. I used the Questia version because that was the place I was working at the time. I was honest about the format I accessed, and there's nothing wrong with using an online database of works in the public domain.


 * I've added the reference back in its original form; I don't have the time or the inclination to find it at the UVA site, especially when my original work was sufficient. If you want to find it at the UVA site and change the URL accordingly, be my guest, but unless you can demonstrate that this source is not a reliable one, it should remain in the article. I don't think I'm the one who "went too fast" here. Thanks again for the message. - Krakatoa  Katie  23:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

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Removing backlinks
I saw you removed a bunch of links, see this edit. Why did you only removed the brackets instead of completely removing it? That doesn't really make sense. Garion96 (talk) 20:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. I removed the links from the other articles on which only the brackets were removed. Garion96 (talk) 22:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Taking Out Mullholand
I didn't see your letter to me about the numbers, until I edited the article. But you were right, when I saved the edit, no.8, was there and it referred to Harris' book and the correct page. After I saw your page, I went in, again, and put in the reason for change, (Again, an attempt to repair incorrect references.) I wrote what you suggested.

As far as I know, everyone is OK. My cousin who lives in Del Mar Heights said they were told to evacuate, but they were going to an MD convention in Phoenix, so it worked out OK. And my sister-in-law is on the beach at Malibu right by Pepperdine, and she seems all right. A lot of my younger cousins live in Northern Cal.

It's not going to stop, the fires, the floods, Unfortunately, there are lot of people living next to nature, forests etc. and there's hotter weather. I can't remember when it last rained? -One time, lightly, last month. It's Nov. and the weather is in the 70's and 80.s, but fortunately the humidity is high. When growing up, I only remember one fire, in 1961, the Bel Air fire; it was during the holiday season and my parents were up there at a party. I remember, afterward, when I would visit a close friend up in Bel Air, right across the street a house had burned down and there was only a brick fireplace.

I live in Westwood (UCLA) right by Century City where some of my family live. I would, if possible, never, live in the canyons, or hillsides in Southern California because after the fires are the floods.

And then there are the earthquakes!

I was under the impression you lived in Oklahoma (the stadium) but the flood was in Kansas. Which? I guess both have floods, droughts, and tornados?

Be well!

71.116.165.133 00:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC) lindalevi

KCSAA
I would kindly like to know why my article on KCSAA was deleted and what I could have done to make it better? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremydoubleu (talk • contribs) 20:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

* Yes I would like to have a copy of it though I thought I sited the associtations webstite. Plus there are almost 40 schools in kentucky that are members, would this help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremydoubleu (talk • contribs) 19:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
 Thank you for supporting me in my recent RFA which unfortunately did not pass at (47/23/5). I will be sure to improve my editing skills and wait till someone nominates me next time. Have a great day(or night)! -- Hdt 83     Chat 05:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Karyn Kupcinet
Hi again. I am just wanting to alert you to what's going on. I did some clean-up on this article and it was actually left alone for a few days, then in the last 24 hours or so, he's charged back in, quite inappropriately at some points. I am about to start work on a RfC on the editor, but in the meanwhile, I wanted you to be aware. Check the note I left at Talk:Karyn_Kupcinet and the resultant rant and rave that was left in response in the section below that. There is no spirit of collaboration, he doesn't even attempt to follow even the most basic of style guidelines (changing Kupcinet back to Karyn, yada yada). I'm going to bed. :) Wildhartlivie 10:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to let you know, I'm filing a request for comment on user conduct & page protection until its resolved. I'm finished messing with this back & forth since I'm now being attacked personally over multiple pages. His Editor RfA response was that no vandalism was seen. I'm really sorry this has become so grade school. Wildhartlivie 12:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Wildhartlivie Must Stop Vandalizing.
Please tell the contributor with the screen name "Wildhartlivie" to stop vandalizing the article on Karyn Kupcinet.

I sent this same request to the "Requests for Assistance" page more than twelve hours ago, but I have not heard from them. I can't find the page for requesting arbitration. I am writing you because last week Wildhartlivie persuaded you to ban me from editing, but I could not defend myself.

Wildhartlivie says I am adding "original research" to the Kupcinet article because I cited microfilmed newspaper articles about Dr. Harold Kade, the coroner who did Kupcinet's autopsy. Those are newspaper articles, not my original research. They tell us that Dr. Kade made so many mistakes reporting on dead people that he was asked to resign, and he did. Wildhartlivie has removed those additions to the article several times.

Wildhartlivie insists on removing from the article a report (that I sourced) about certain Los Angeles sheriffs' officials believing Kupcinet may have died from an accidental fall. I explained that their investigation led them to believe that, but Wildhartlivie insists on calling this "gossip" by "the police." That is a cracked fantasy. They were sheriffs, not police. They don't gossip.

Wildhartlivie constantly threatens to ban me from all editing, but doing that is unfair unless I can defend myself. I think you should ban Wildhartlivie. I await your reply before I say more. Thanks for reading. Dooyar 06:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Admin coaching
Hey KrakatoaKatie, thanks for contacting me. I wondered why you picked me over the people above me on the list? I am not saying this is a bad thing though ;) I would be happy to accept your invitation :) I also wondered if you have coached anybody before, and if it went well? I look forward to your coaching ;) Thanks again, Tiddly - Tom 09:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message. I am sure you are qualified enough to teach me ;) I like your attude towards wikipedia, and I like to think I have a similar attude. I have created the page you suggested here. And written a shot speech about why I want the mop. Lets get this show on the road ;) Tiddly - Tom 18:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just so it does not get archived... Tiddly - <font style="color:#DFFF00;background:#483C32;">Tom 07:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)