User talk:Krimuk2.0/Archive 4

Rai
Hi Smarojit. There is no denying fact that you are the most important contributor for this article as you did made so many changes, and took it to the next level. I didn't reverted all of your points every time. If I edited anything you just immediately revert it back at the moment without seeing the sources that I Include. The lead section definitely needs to be rephrased for few statements. I have just done that and added one statement to what it was originally. I wanted to share below points with you. (Not just my assumption, have sources to the content I added)

Whats really wrong in these 3 statements? I know I may not be good at presenting these points in neutral way. So please do look at it. Thank you.

1. She is a leading contemporary actress of Indian cinema, noted for both her dramatic and offbeat roles, and her accomplished dancing. (When this kind of statement is allowed to put it in other articles, why not in this one?)

It was also stated in recent article from HT that

Present: Today, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan is not just regarded for her looks and acting but has also been credited for bringing India on the international showbiz map to an extent.

2. It was stated originally as, "She is a leading contemporary actress of Indian cinema and has received two Filmfare Awards, two Screen Awards, and two IIFA Awards for her performances in Hindi language films of Bollywood". I think, the screen and Zee awards have 2 types of best actress categories, one jury and one popular choice. Both are given based on the performances only. In that case, Rai has won 3 for screen (2 - Jury + 1 -Best actress popular choice) and 4 Zee Awrads. Most acting awards – Female [Best Actress (Popular) + Best Actress (Critics) + Best Supporting Actress] Aishwarya Rai (2+2+0) = 4.

So I edited as "During her career, She has acted in over 40 films in different genres and has received two Filmfare Best Actress Awards, among ten nominations for her performances in Hindi language films of Bollywood".

3.. It was not just Bhansali's films that brought her public recognition. The year 1999, proved to be a turning point in her career as her performances in both films gave her recognition as an actress. After few yrs, then Devdas gave her international fame.

My change was - In 1999, She received wide public recognition for her leading roles in Sanjay Leela Bhansali's melodrama Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam and Subhash Ghai's musical romance Taal; both films earned her a Filmfare Best Actress nomination with the former fetching her the award.[13][4] Rai received her second Best Actress (Filmfare Award) for her role as "Parvati" in Bhansali's 2002 period film Devdas which brought her international acclaim.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/Bollywood-stars-who-journeyed-from-ramp-to-reel-successfully/Article1-1030642.aspx?hts0021

http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/film/the-two-worlds-of-aishwarya-rai#full http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/Aishwarya+-+most+bankable+Bollywood+star+in+at+35/1/19105.html http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/apr/03sld1.htm

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/OVER-THE-YEARS-Ash-good-as-it-can-get/Article1-930831.aspx

http://www.mid-day.com/photos/b-town-specials/subhash-ghai-and-his-muses/aishwarya/

Cheers, Ssg2442 (talk) 03:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you so much for the Barnstar :-) and the explanation for my points. I completely agree since you have more experience working on FAC/GA articles. I would like to see Rai's page to GA and then FA. But that's only possible with you. I will not revert your edits anymore before discussing with you on the talk page. But please do consider the sources that I have mentioned before and if it make sense, then include a comment about her choice of roles and dancing skills.

1. I think she is known for her roles in offbeat and dramatic than a comedy/commercial mainstream cinema. (I agree, Offbeat is not a proper term to use.)

2. Yes, Mohabbatein did gave her so much publicity for her supporting role. But it just didnt has much in terms of acting. Its the year 1999 was a milestone for her career as she quickly stole the limelight for her leading roles in HDDCS & Taal. Her acting and dancing skills were appreciated in both the films. Am just throwing my opinion here, that a comment on her acting (dramatic, offbeat like chokher bali) & dancing should be included in the lead, as many leading newspapers always mention about it. For example - Rediff stated that "After Sanjay Leela Bhansali's hit film Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam, Taal strengthened Ash's standing in the industry. She was now accepted as an actress, instead of just being touted as a beautiful face."

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2003/oct/22sld8.htm

Ssg2442 (talk) 17:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

JTHJ peer review
I have addressed every issue you presented here. You can go ahead. Thanks, Plea$ant 1623  ✉  18:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, I will be back with more points tomorrow. :) -- smaro jit  (buzz me)  18:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Errmm.. I don't want to be rude or impatient, but can you please finish the PR as quickly as you can? Because I'll have really limited time to edit on Wikipedia from July. Thanks, Plea$ant 1623  ✉  14:38, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. Posted more points on the page. Thanks. :) -- smaro jit  (buzz me)  13:02, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

YOU ARE HERE
you are editing here on Wikipedia only to abuse film-related articles. you are here to push your POV and engage in petty squabbles with editors who thrive on fighting with others! Certain users like u make Wikipedia a filthy environment to work in. Talk page messages from such editors will be deleted immediately! Thank you. Murrallli (talk) 18:31, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like this is true based on your jabbing of you-know-who. A star, really?  You should not do that; he may think it is sincere and keep it.  BollyJeff  &#124;  talk  19:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm practically pissing, like literally! :D — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat  ] 03:19, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Padmalakshmisx is back in action!! &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  03:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Smaro, it would be good if you literally avoid Murralli and Prashant! for sometime. Regards, Plea$ant 1623  ✉  06:25, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks Pleasant. Really wonder who this Murallli is. Is he/she a sock of this Padmalakshmisx? -- smaro jit  (buzz me)  14:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Rai again
Hey Smarojit... Someone has returned using a sock at Ashwariya Rai article. Should a page protection be requested again? -- Vigyani talkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 06:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that and just reverted an edit of his/her. I do think it would be better to protect the page. Thanks. :) -- smaro jit  (buzz me)  06:36, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow, it's a clear sock. I give up! -- smaro jit  (buzz me)  07:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Haha, thank you so much. :-) :-P -- smaro jit  HD 09:19, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Priyanka Chopra
I don't want to get into a squabble over the Priyanka Chopra link but I'm just curious to why you won't let it go on the page. It doesn't hurt the article and bollywood life is semi notable; it isn't a completely gossip/tabloid site unlike some others I know of. Just want to know dude, nothing personal.
 * Hey, the article is running to be a featured article now, and maintaining guidelines for reliability is extremely important for it to pass. Newspaper sources, and notable websites (such as MSN, Rediff.com etc) are sources that are considered reliable, while there are a hundred others (such as Pinkvilla, OneIndia, BollywoodLife, etc etc...) that aren't. If the link is kept, then questions will be raised at the nomination, which will complicate it's chances to pass, and that's why I had to revert your edits. Thanks. -- smaro jit  HD 09:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi
Hey.. I noticed that you requested a username change. But looks like Isscrp noticed it and created that account before it is allotted to you :P.-- Vigyani talkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 05:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah! You sure that was Isaacsirup? -- smaro jit  HD 06:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a hunch. Both the account are check user blocked (without any report by anyone) means both are long time sock masters. this edit by Revolutionary road account is similar to this and this by iscrp. It just popped in my head.-- Vigyani talkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 16:01, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see. Thanks a lot for the info. :) -- smaro jit  HD 04:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

On Rani Mukerji
I feel the quote about her reflection on child education in India is not needed. Also, if possible, try to trim and change to non-quote prose the quotation on her preparation for acting in the artistry section.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks. You are right, I removed the quote on children's education. However, I have kept the quote on her preparation for acting as of now. If someone opposes it at the FAC, I'll remove it then. :) -- smaro jit  HD 04:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Ya the quote in artistry section can be argued to be kept, that's why I said " if possible"! For whatever reason, I have a feeling that this article seems less attractive/less prepared than Balan. I have not been able to thoroughly read it though.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, why do you think so? :( -- smaro jit  HD 06:07, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Difficult to answer! Probably the prose is less tight. Balan article was more easy to read, and, of course, shorter. This feeling is somewhat vague, and nothing specific needs to be done.--Dwaipayan (talk) 22:31, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I found four dead links and marked them; please fix them fast. BollyJeff &#124;  talk  20:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bollyjeff, I have replaced them. Interestingly, all of these links were working when I checked them last month! -- smaro jit  HD 01:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, do you know how to find the rest of that 80 iconic performances list? I would like to use it.  BollyJeff  &#124;  talk  02:24, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, here you go: Just type in "iconic" in the filter tab. -- smaro jit   HD 02:26, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Got it. One of the ones I wanted is incorrect; I am going to use it anyway.  BollyJeff  &#124;  talk  02:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Why the new picture? It looks over processed, not good. Also, you said non-free in the edit summary, hopefully you meant free. BollyJeff &#124;  talk  13:21, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You are right, I removed it. -- smaro jit  HD 14:42, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much. This means a lot coming from you. :) :) -- smaro jit  HD 12:39, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good work, smarojit! Just checked out her article. WOW!! It's obvious that it's thoroughly researched and amazingly written. Keep up the fantastic work! :)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks a lot Dwaipayan!! :) :) -- smaro jit  HD 13:25, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Congrats. More than anything else, its nice to see how single-handedly you get your articles to FA. Very impressive I must say. :) -  Vivvt  <small style="font-size:85%;">( Talk ) 02:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much Vivvt. :) :) -- smaro jit  HD 02:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, excellent job! BollyJeff  &#124;  talk  03:18, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you Bollyjeff, especially for the review. -- smaro jit  HD 03:34, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Jennifer Lawrence
Hi! I saw this. As you can see in the history of the page, I also tried to remove that section, but that user said it was vandalism. Shouldn't we remove those unnecessary details? Or maybe we should start a new section in the talk page. What do you think? Keivan.f Talk 16:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Keivan. Yes, those details are really unnecessary in the infobox. I see that he hasn't reverted your edit as yet. If he does, we need to start a discussion in the talk page. Cheers! :) -- smaro jit  HD 03:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Dear Smarojit. He reverted my edits at last. He also said that he would report me because of an edit war. Anyway he is warned because of his reverting without any reason. Now, what do you think? Should we start a discussion in the talk page or perhaps we should continue to revert his edits? Keivan.f  Talk 06:20, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, I see another editor has reverted his/her edit. But anyway, I have posted on the talk page. Please comment there. :) -- smaro jit  HD 07:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

FA dates
I don't understand how it works. If you do not make a request then what date do you get, and how are you informed? BollyJeff &#124;  talk  04:12, 23 July 2013 (UTC)