User talk:Krinkle/Archive 1

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Albert Goldthorpe
Re. commons:File:Albert goldthorpe all4cups.jpg

Per your comments in IRC, I found the pic, just after you'd left - see File:Albert goldthorpe all4cups.jpg uploaded back in 2004 by Grinner.

Not sure if this helps with (c) though, per the messages about "should not be transferred to Wikimedia Commons".

Let me know if you want me to do any more.  Chzz  ►  11:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Zeldenrust, Dokkum
Thanks for adding the Commonscat. Just a note to let you know that it is not necessary to put ref names in "quotes". Mjroots (talk) 05:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Krinkle/SpeedyMaintanceCat
Should User:Krinkle/SpeedyMaintanceCat really include in Db-maintenance? As creates the categories, it uses the subpage, and it simultaneously listed for speedy deletion and ends up at SD. has been deleted three times so far because of this. — ξ xplicit  01:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Explicit,
 * I'm trying to figure out how this happened, becuase I've verified multiple times, including another time just now, that User:Krinkle/SpeedyMaintanceCat doesn't spit out Db-maintenance unless the category it is included in is empty AND is atleast a day old. I have seen multiple times in the past that DumbBOT staticly makes the categories based on June 1, 2010 (2010-06-01). That's not my fault, he should fix his bot to atleast pass the right date, as the other bots that created subcategories do. This is also the reason the subcategories are incorrectly sorted in Category:Wikipedia files on Wikimedia Commons because he passes the date as 2010-06-01. See also Template:Wikipedia files on Wikimedia Commons starter, which is the template DumbBOT uses to create the subcategories. That template expects three parameters (1=, 2= and 4=) to be passed. Which is used for category sortkey, and since this week also for User:Krinkle/SpeedyMaintanceCat. Either way, if the date is passed correctly SpeedyMaintanceCat works fine. The speedy tempalte was shown directly on creation because the future-date category was created using June 1st template. So my SpeedyMaintanceCat-template calculates that June 1st is more then 1 day ago, and it also sees that the category is empty. Krinkle (talk) 15:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Rollback
Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:
 * Rollback gives you access to certain scripts, including Huggle and Igloo, some of which can be very powerful, so exercise caution
 * Rollback is only for blatant vandalism
 * Having Rollback rights does not give you any special status or authority
 * Misuse of Rollback can lead to its removal by any administrator
 * Please read Help:Reverting and Rollback feature to get to know the workings of the feature
 * You can test Rollback at New admin school/Rollback
 * You may wish to display the User wikipedia/rollback userbox and/or the Rollback top icon on your user page
 * If you have any questions, please do let me know.

-- HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2010 October 23
Hi Krinkle. Because your comment at MediaWiki talk:History short led to the initiation of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/MediaWiki:History short, you may be interested in Deletion review/Log/2010 October 23. Cunard (talk) 06:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the update!
I went and protected the title and other users had tagged it as a hoax. I can unprotect the title and hope that a proper article comes along. Not exaactly my area of, um, expertise either. :P --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and help
Hello Krinkle, I am Б. Јанкулоски, admin on mk.wiki. I'd like to thank you for the script updates and ask you if you can help us with two issues.

One is that the default of our collapsible lists (mk:Шаблон:Расклопен список) default to expanded, even though no one has set it to be like that.

The second issue I would like to ask for help with is the mk:Шаблон:Coord template where I have been trying some changes and additions in it and its subtemplates to make it show Macedonian letters for the directions (east, west, north, south), but cannot achieve it at all. Would you know how that can be achieved? I will tell you the abbreviations to be used in stead of E, W, N, S if it is possible to replace these.

I look forward to hearing from you and thank you again for your care! --B. Jankuloski (talk) 00:55, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Hidden template
Just to let you know, I had to revert your change to the Hidden template due to not working with some versions of IE. See on Village pump (technical) for details. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your jquery tips
Hi, Thanks for your jquery & mw.loader tips. Surely it will help. -- Mahir78 (talk) 17:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Patrol links
John Vandenberg tells me that you've devised a new patrol-links script that's implemented on Wikisource. Is it functional? If yes, can I have a copy? DS (talk) 16:59, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * To use it at en.wikisource go to Preferences and tick "Makes patrol links execute within the page"
 * To use it on another wiki, edit your personal common.js and install it. Read here how.
 * Please don't copy the script, instead import it per the instructions on the documentation page. That way you will stay tuned with the latest version and it won't brake when the software updates.
 * Will that work in other skins? I use Classic instead of Vector. DS (talk) 02:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not tested but should work (let me know if it doesn't). Just remember to put it in common.js or classic.js instead of vector.js. Krinkle (talk) 10:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Following our IRC conversation we've come to the conclusion you had a different expectation from the script. It does not introduce [Patrol] links on Special:NewPages, instead it binds to the ones already there on the new page itself so you won't have to view the "Succesfully marked as patrolled"-page but instead can mark it directly.
 * Because of that nature it can be very helpful for patrollers on wikis with edit-patrol. It's not very useful for newpage-patrol.
 * If you want to really ajaxify your workflow check out m:User:Krinkle/RTRC-docs. Krinkle (talk) 20:54, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Fix if needed, please
These pages do not seem to offer a link to mark as patrolled. If you can fix this, assuming a fix is needed, please do so. thanks -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:26, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * no fix needed, there never were patrol links there, so they're not missing. There was or is a local javascript gadget on en.wikipedia that adds these dynamically but I'm not the developer of it, so I wouldn't know. Krinkle (talk) 02:43, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I think the mainpage is broken
All I get is <table id="mp-topbanner" style="width:100%; background:#f9f9f9; margin:1.2em 0 6px 0; border:1px s And I cant fix it because it seems the mainpage is edit protected to only alow admins to edit. I get the "view Source" tag when looking at an older revision. Colincbn (talk) 21:49, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know what's going on there, seems to be working fine now :). Krinkle (talk) 23:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
Two questions:
 * Why can you edit that page even though you're not an admin?
 * Your edits to that page apparently have been disrupting all the gadgets; please self-revert. See Village pump (technical) for details.Jasper Deng (talk) 21:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If it worked on the test wiki, did you remember to take into account that its version is far ahead of Wikipedia's production version in terms of development?Jasper Deng (talk) 22:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I did, and also tested on a local version that does match Wikipedia's production version (1.18wmf1). Krinkle (talk) 22:56, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Then why did your changes bomb so spectacularly? Malleus Fatuorum 23:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Need help for Bengali Wikipedia at Commons CSS and js for hlist and other updates
Hi, I need some help for Bengali Wikipedia at Commons CSS and js for hlist and other updates. I have already updates from enwiki for hlist at MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Common.js. But its not working. Look at Template:CSS and JS MediaWiki messages. Thank you in advance.--- Jayanta Nath (Talk 05:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Pubmedurl (36639)
I deleted MediaWiki:Pubmedurl. What is the equivalent for ISBN? ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 01:41, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There is none for ISBN, ISBNs are linked to Special:BookSources.
 * The override for "RFC"s url is MediaWiki:rfcurl (which has already been deleted in 2011). Krinkle (talk) 01:58, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I figured out rfcurl. Thought there would be an interface page for ISBN. Thanks for your help. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 02:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Krinkle (talk) 02:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js
I have reverted this gadget back to a previous version and in doing so, have undone your most recent change. If this change is still appropriate, please could you re-do it? Thanks &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:32, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * My edit fixed an issue with the code introduced recently, which has been backed out now.
 * btw, could you leave a message on the talk page as well? Also, please elaborate on "causing problems for some users" there, so that someone can fix it. --Krinkle (talk) 20:28, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki messages
Hello! I switched to all-lowercase for the following reasons:

1. The English Wikipedia's convention is to style headings in sentence case (apart from proper nouns and such). I see no grammatical distinction warranting the use of uppercase here.

2. The use of lowercase reduces the likelihood of mistaking the text for part of an article's title.

Is there a particular reason, apart from the fact that it happens to be the upcoming MediaWiki default, why the uppercase styling should be used? —David Levy 02:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I reverted your change to the message override for a few reasons. 1) The override was created to simulate the interface as it would be if 1.20wmf4 was deployed already. In there it uses uppercase. User:Siebrand (community member, developer and localization expert at translatewiki.net) pointed Amir that it should use a capital after colon, and so this was the way it was implemented in the software. I restored that per his judgement, and to prevent unrelated responses in the VPT thread about this, since I imagine some linguistics might complain about this grammatical "error" (if it is that, which I'm not sure of). 2) Although at this point neither is "permanent", it was announced that this software change was created locally, whereas your change was not announced, explained or justified anywhere (not even in the edit summary) Also, your point about mistaking it for part of the title is a good point. Which is one of the reasons I very much dislike this re-ordered construction, entirely. To make tabbed browsing easier, I recommend using a reversed breadcrumb in the page title (Action < Page name < Site name). Up until now that was the case for all actions and special pages. But this is now broken for Diff and History. For example, right now I see tabs "Editing User:Kr..", "My Watchlist - W.." and "Wikipedia:Villag..". I can't tell whether this last tab is view, diff or history. Krinkle (talk) 03:06, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the detailed explanation. Having read the VPT discussion before performing the edits, my understanding was (and still is) that the changes were made in response to the complaints posted there, with the default messages from 1.20wmf4 serving as an expedient solution thereto.  There was no mention of a desire to simulate their exact formatting, which we frequently override for various reasons (including adherence to the English Wikipedia's style conventions, which don't always jibe with the MediaWiki defaults).  Having personally performed similar tweaks on several occasions, I regarded these as routine and uncontroversial.
 * As a professional proofreader and copy editor, I'm confident that neither version constitutes an "error" from a linguistic standpoint. From a stylistic standpoint, the all-lowercase format more closely reflects the English Wikipedia's conventions.  —David Levy 03:45, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a 3rd party comment: I think "Difference between revisions" should be lowercase. It seems to jump out too much like this. --hydrox (talk) 20:30, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Re: template transclusion count
I noticed at Berlin, actually, but thanks for reminding me to fix it - I'd quite forgotten. Should be resolved now, though. Thanks! - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 00:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thimk aboat your editttttting!
Please take this example change as a good point to step back, and think about 'caution' when editing.

You took this example code
 * this.a = checkInt(x)
 * // ^ semicolons are optional

and changed it to
 * this.a = checkInt(x);
 * // ^ semicolons are optional

What can be said about that? At the very least you frustrated the intent of the example!

I would go back to the article and recheck and rethink your changes. Using 'lint' as a reason to change 'correct' the example is simply wrong. For instance, is changing
 * t = b; b = a; a = t;

to
 * t = b;
 * b = a;
 * a = t;

really worth destroying the point that you can have more than one executable statement on one line?

This section is after all about the syntax of the language, and is not supposed to be an illustration of perfection based on the ideals of one person's opinion.

And yes, WP:ENGVAR edits upset me too. Think about the article first and foremost! Shenme (talk) 04:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js
Hi. you added dependencies, but you forgot one out: the gadget also needs mediawiki.user (it calls mw.user.sessionId somewhere). for some bizarre reason this only creates problem when i use IE (i think i use other gadgets and scripts that *do* load mediawiki,user, so in my case it's basically a race condition, and i guess in IE popup wins the race, so the call to mw.user.sessionId throws an exception). Could you please add the missing dependency?

thanks a bunch - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 19:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've tried to make fixes to this gadget before but never with good results. It is a big mess. The referenced edit has been reverted since. Please ask on MediaWiki talk:Gadget-popups.js and one of the maintainers can help you instead. Krinkle (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * the reason i came here instead of MediaWiki talk:Gadget-popups.js is simple: the last message on this page is a bug report i wrote several months ago (it deals with the discrepancy between "page size" in bytes and "raw page length" in characters), and it never received any response (not even a "wontfix" kind of answer), so i assume this page is dysfunctional. i will talk with one of the other sysops that sometimes modifies the code of this gadget.
 * peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 15:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Several users (myself included) are still having css-related edit page display errors (see Village_pump_(technical) for the screen shot/story). My edit page shows the new line and redirect (used to be table) in the edit field and there is no find/replace button. Even after closing the advanced bar and reopening, the find/replace button is still missing. Can this be fixed? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2013 (UTC)