User talk:Kristbg/Archive 1

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Sources for A Day Without Me
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Love and Peace for Else: Good Work
Well, I just wanted to tell you, good job.

I clearly forgot about the copyright infringement - thanks for catching that. 'Preciate it. --Nomader 05:14, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Always a pleasure, thanks! --Kristbg 13:43, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Bono ipod.JPG
Hi unfortunately we can't use this image as we don't have a fair use claim on it for Bono (we might in an article on ipod). We have many free images for Bono at commons:Category:U2 so you could use one of those if you prefer. Arniep 22:12, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

From another U2 fan
I'm happy to know that U2 has too many "monster" fans. I'm in that group too. If you want to share informations about U2 with me, don't hesitate. Aeternus 16:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Kristbg. I like your style on the U2 material. You are clearly a fan, but you are strict and don't want to see wikipedia articles on the subject turn into a rock mag. Keep up the good work. Let me know what you think of my edits. Cheers. --Merbabu 14:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Queen WikiProject
Feel free to add yourself to the list. We can use all the help we can get. Mtmtmt 14:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Queen WikiProject
Hello, I have added you to the list of people who specialize in info boxes on the Queen WikiProject page. Feel free to remove yourself at any time. - Mtmtmt 07:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging for Image:Kristbg.jpg
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Please help on William Shakespeare
Posted by PruneauT 01:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the AID maintenance team.

Image:Edge stand.jpg
Hi. You uploaded the above image, which is licensed as Creative Commons "non-commercial / no derivatives" and tagged it as Creative Commons attribution. I'm deleting it -- we cannot use noncommercial images here. Please be more careful with license templates in the future. Thanks. Jkelly 20:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

You helped choose this week's WP:AID winner
- Davodd 05:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice work (as normal)
NIce work on U2 with your citation formats. There's been a few changes lately by others - lol. But i think they are all for the best. Makes it an encyclopedia, rather than a magazine. Although i was smarting over loosing all the album covers. --Merbabu 17:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Sunday Bloody Sunday (song): peer review
I know you've been inactive for some time, but since you got the original good article nomination going, I thought I'd let you know I've requested the article be peer reviewed. If you're interesting in following the discussion, check out Peer review/Sunday Bloody Sunday (song)/archive1. Thanks! McMillin24 contribstalk 20:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

ZOO2Live
Thanks for Wikifying that page, that's the first article I've started, and I knew that I was missing some things!

Miss Sarajevo
Hello there. Need your advice. I deleted this recent addition to the Miss Sarajevo article:

===Trivia=== Song is finishing with Bono reciting Ivan Gundulić, the greatest poet of the Croatian Renaissance literature, ode to independence of the Dubrovnik Republic, in Croatian: "O lijepa, o draga, o slatka slobodo" ("Oh, beautiful, oh dear, oh sweet freedom!").

and then i got this on my talk page. What do you think? I think it is crap - at best, something obscure and sorely needing referencing. Or am I wrong? --Merbabu 12:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * ha ha - yes, i placed a copy of the song's lyrics on the editors talk page. It's not in the Sarajevo peformance - i have that.
 * now - what was the Rolling Stone reference? About Pop? The Pop album review on Rolling Stone is NOT the reference they had in the 1997 magazine (and I no longer have that). It was a good review and I think it said something about "music of their lives". BUT, i do have a book of Rolling Stone articles on U2 from 1980 to 1993.--Merbabu 13:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * PS, I just added a reference. I found the original article but not on Rolling Stone. It's the article, but its probably not legit referencing. Was that the ref you were talking about? --Merbabu 13:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Re peer review, great! How does it work? do you put a certain version thru? I mean, if not, what happens if someone comes through and starts rambling on about 3 different version of The Saints? lol --Merbabu 14:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

re U2 article (or any U2 article) i bought the "U2 by U2" book. It's a wealth of info. So much there. it's a loooooong detailed read so sometimes it is hard to actually pic out good references - but there must be thousands. I am slowly reading it in bed - i'll need to read in front of wikipedia. I used it for the references for the Passengers section in U2. --Merbabu 14:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

U2 Picture
The image back to which you reverted the U2 article does not meet the criteria for fair use. According to Fair_use, "Any non-free media used on Wikipedia must meet all of these criteria", the first of which states, "No free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information." —ShadowHalo 17:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the key is "is available or could be created". Since U2 is still touring and is still making appearances, it is still possible to create an adequate image.  As Fair use itself states, "if the subject of the photograph still exists, a freely-licensed photograph could be taken...Always use a more free alternative if one is available."  If you revert the image again, I'll be forwarding this issue to Copyright problems.  —ShadowHalo 19:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is what I want to do. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, not a fansite, as you'll see at the top of the page; it strives to create articles that are as free as possible, so when free images are available, they should always be used.  —ShadowHalo 20:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, I did another search and found a free image that's closer up and shows the members' faces. Now please stop replacing free images with non-free ones.  —ShadowHalo 12:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Copyright problems seems mostly to deal with images or articles that were directly taken from another site, so I asked at Media copyright questions. Here was the response: "It is necessary to make a judgement call in these cases. Here though, Image:U2AtMadisonSquare.jpg seems more than adequate, so the unfree image almost certainly does not meet fair use criterion #1. One of the many good things about the free image is that we can host the high resolution version and allow it to be clicked and viewed in detail apart from the article. You're right, you should not edit war over the issue. You've done the right thing tagging the unfree image with replaceable fair use. What you need to do now is to invite the other editors to discuss the issue on the article or image's talk page. An administrator will come around after one week, read the discussion (if any), and decide whether or not to delete the image. ×Meegs 10:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC) " So, I won't be changing the image used on the U2 page until the issue can be settled on the Image:U2photo.jpg talk page.  —ShadowHalo 17:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing that by the time you started writing that comment, I hadn't written anything on the talk page yet. I did leave a brief remark on there stating that there was a free alternative about the same time that you left the comment on my talk page.  I also left a message on the page of the other user who reverted the image when I replaced it on the talk page saying that I tagged the image and that if he disagrees, he should bring it up on the talk page, and I said the same thing on the talk page for the U2 article itself.  Glad we could get this resolved (well, almost resolved, but it should be easy to take it from here).  —ShadowHalo 02:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Sunday Bloody Sunday (song): now a FAC
Just FYI, I've placed Sunday Bloody Sunday on the list of Featured article candidates. Check out the discussion at Featured article candidates/Sunday Bloody Sunday (song). Perhaps I'm being overzealous, but I think it's in pretty good shape. Let's get a U2-related article to featured status! McMillin24 contribstalk 00:18, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

U2 at FAC!!!
Hi there. Long time no see. Yup - someone put it up. I don't think he has ever edited the article before. I told him I thought it was better to go for FAC first. Merbabu 03:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * hmm - you are right, it is not ready. Should have gone to GA review first. Those suggestions from peer review were good. But so hard! Maybe we can develop them on a seperate sandbox page or something. Do you have U2 by U2 yet? I have a few books like Until The End of The World (before U2 by U2 this was the best U2 book) and a compendium of Rolling Stone articles up til 1994. I want to review U2 for FAC. But i think I will put some negative comments in. I would have supported GA, but not FAC - not yet anyway. Merbabu 11:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I intend to gradually re-write each section of the U2 article. I've done Unforgettable Fire - you'll see it's had a major expansion. I think it gives the context that the FAC reviewers were critical of the article for not having (although, it might be a bit long). I will do JT and AB next, but hopefully they won't be too long. One thing I would love to put in is some text boxes. Take look at these two articles: Mount Tambora and Indonesian National Revolution. They offer a bit more colour/background/feeling without being POV or disrupting the flow of the main text. I've got some in my sandbox i plan to use for the U2 article. I can't decide which one to use for the Joshua Tree. I think i prefer the one that starts with "Bono had been reading...". What do you think? I will also find quotes to summarise and "colour" the other albums/periods. Merbabu 05:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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