User talk:Kronosya

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Speedy deletion nomination of Joseph de Kroon


A tag has been placed on Joseph de Kroon requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.

Please be aware that we need repeated coverage by reliable, third-party sources that assert the notability and importance of a subject. Referencing the fame of a person to their own organisation is not sufficient to have a Wikipedia article.

And last but not least: Gelieve geen tekst in het Nederlands toe te voegen aan de Engelse Wikipedia. Uw bijdragen zijn van harte welkom in de Nederlandse Wikipedia.

Please do not contribute text in Dutch to English Wikipedia. Your contributions are more than welcome at the Dutch Wikipedia. De728631 (talk) 16:07, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry. I made a mistake by pressing the 'save page-button' too early, while I had still text in Dutch on the screen (I'm Dutch myself, and like to first write the text in Dutch, and to then translate it in English). I hope the page is correct now? Please note that English is not my first language, so please correct grammar mistakes.


 * The grammar is the least problem. What we need are reliable sources. Youtube and some random gaming sites are not considered appropriate sources to establish a person's notability and importance. What we need is repeated nationwide reliable news coverage or feature articles in magazines; otherwise we could use websites that have been proven to be reliable and are thought to be an authority on the subject of interest. So I'm afraid but the additional sources you've added are irrelevant from my point of view. Let's see how the administrators or other editors on this matter. De728631 (talk) 19:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The sources may in that case be a bit of problem. Just as sportsman are mostly only featured in newspaper, magazines etc. which also deal with the sports, the person we're talking about, is only mentioned on sites which deal with the game he plays, StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty. I have to mention however that some of the 'random gaming sites' are part of what is the heart of the Starcraft 2-community, which involves millions of fans. And the guy in the Youtube video is infact Sean Plott, probably the face of E-sports in the western world.Kronosya (talk) 09:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Since the speedy deletion has been declined by another editor I have now gone further proposed another level of deletion for the article, with the concerns still being the same: no indication of notability and insufficient/improper sourcing. If these flaws can't be fixed within a week, the article may be deleted or be taken to a formal deletion discussion. De728631 (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid that I can't give many 'more relevant' sources than I already have. He has never been featured in any major magazine/newspaper as far as I know. However, don't the amount of hits on google (or other internet-search devices) say anything about his notability in the Starcraft 2-Scene? EDIT: I have included some new references in the article, one of which is an interview with him held by MLG, the organiser of the biggest competitive gaming tournaments in America (as well South as North).


 * Apparentely, a lot of references have been deleted. Were they not relevant enough?