User talk:Kshahinian

Welcome!
Hello, Kshahinian, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type helpme on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! TheLongTone (talk) 01:37, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Starting an article
 * Your first article
 * Biographies of living persons
 * How to write a great article
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Help pages
 * Tutorial

Speedy deletion nomination of Gary C. Ponto M.D.


A tag has been placed on Gary C. Ponto M.D. requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. TheLongTone (talk) 01:37, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I had to delete the article, both because it gave no indication of importance in any sense we use it, and because it was essentially an advertisement.

A Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't just give a CV, not praise the person: it is mere puffery to say "most prominent pathologist". Remember not to copy from a web site, even their own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is generally no purpose in giving permission; it is better to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective clients--that sort of content is considered promotional.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. And keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive. The relevant criteria are at WP:Notability. The person might qualify under the WP:GNG, or under WP:PROF. For WP:PROF, we usually don't consider even an adjunct full professorship significant as a position, To show a person as an authority as a field requires citations: Add the most widely cited in the journals, and a h index, from some place like google Scholar. I see there only 2 cited papers, both of which are as a junior author

If you think you have the material, try again, but add references at the very first edit. (and the name would be withouyt the MD--WP does not use such designations in article titles.  DGG ( talk ) 02:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Gary C. Ponto M.D.
Ill be honest, Im trying to create this page for someone who has made a big difference in my life, so yes i am a little biased :) I understand that I didn't create any references in my first edit, and I might have'd 'puffed' it up a little, but i would like to know what i can do to make this article legitimate so that it can stay on wikipedia. I do not know If i can reference the articles online that he has written because some of them are over 20 yrs old.  Is that the only way i can keep the article??  In addition to the papers and the associate professorship, he has also been the chief of staff at Goleta valley cottage hospital, a vice chairman at the same hospital, a medical examiner for the Santa Barbara coroner and numerous other positions. In fact Im looking at his Fcap (kinda like a resume for Dr.s) and its over 6 pages long.  I would really like to do what it takes to reestablish this article, and i think that he has had a career that is worthy of documentation. If you can provide any kind of help/ assistance on this matter i would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you