User talk:Ksin77

October 2011
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Deco, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. El0i (talk) 01:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Please do not add unsourced content, as you did to Deco. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. El0i (talk) 01:55, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

The information that I have provided is accurate, If Deco was of Portuguese decent he would not have needed to gain Portuguese citizenship; FIFA eligibility rules at the time state this. Also we can look at the example of players such as Danny Welbeck who is born in England but had the option to play for Ghana because his parents are from there. My sources are just legitimate as the one ones listed and are from BBC World news. The players selected before over Deco for the Brazil Squad (Juninho Pernambucano, Kaka, Ronaldinho Rivaldo, and Gilberto Silva) Occupy the same roll as he does and therefore were picked AHEAD of him, the article that I sourced shows a list of the Brazil squad and Deco's name has been omitted. Than you, Ksin77 (talk) 02:03, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

I waiting for a response


 * You need to provide a reliable source that states he is not of Portuguese descent ("descent", not "decent"), original research is not allowed. Your other source, whilst reliable, does not say other players were picked over him, again, this is original research. Please also read this and this. El0i (talk) 02:14, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

At the time he was selected to play for Portugal FIFA player eligibility rules state that if your parents or grandparents are born in the nation you wish to represent then you can play for set nation, without having to acquire Citizenship. So if any of his parents or grandparents were from Portugal he would have been a descendent. In regards to my reliable source; obviously those players were picked ahead of him, if they weren't then he would have been included in the squad. thanks you Ksin77 (talk) 02:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Also here is a an example of a player (Kevin Nolan) http://www.whufc.com/articles/kevin-nolan-west-ham_2228487_8217 who is a descendent of many nationalities and was eligible to play for any one of his choice(at that time) FIFA Rules have recently changed so that you can not represent more then one team at any level and you can no longer gain citizenship and play for whoever you like. Thank you Ksin77 (talk) 02:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Furthermore, it is not original research; if he was of Portuguese descent then he would not need to gain Citizenship FIFA rules State this. Also as far as your sock puppetry allegation goes, I made changes without an account and they were changed back so I created a account for communication purposes. thank you Ksin77 (talk) 02:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * His great-grandparents could be of Portuguese descent which would make Deco also of Portuguese descent. Like I said, you need to find a reliable source that says he's not of Portuguese descent, it's all original research at the moment. Regarding the other players, they were also picked ahead of a lot of other players, the source doesn't say Scolari specifically picked those players instead of Deco. How do we even know Scolari would've picked Deco if he didn't have those other players available? This is all original research. El0i (talk) 02:39, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

The point is, he could have picked deco and did not. thank you Ksin77 (talk) 02:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Based on FIFA eligibility rules we know that his Great-grandparents, Grandparents, and Parents are not Portuguese and the Deco needed to gain Citizenship to play for portugal. And we know that Deco was in FACT eligible to play for Brazil as an Attacking Midfielder at the 2002 world cup but other attacking midfielders such as Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, and Juninho were selected and he wasn't. Deco was overlooked, he has said it himself that because he did not play in a big league he was overlooked. http://www.goal.com/en/news/1549/rest-of-europe/2011/10/07/2701165/former-barcelona-midfielder-deco-admits-there-was-pressure ... These are all FACTS. thank you Ksin77 (talk) 03:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

also where is the source where figo takes back early criticism of deco's choice to play for portugal? thank you Ksin77 (talk) 03:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * There's a vast difference between him not having Portuguese parents/grandparents and him not being of Portuguese descent, lineage goes much further down than just parents and grandparents. But I see you're no longer claiming he's not of Portuguese descent. Not sure which source you mean. El0i (talk) 05:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)