User talk:Ktin/Archive 3

DYK for Priscilla Jana
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Anjum Singh
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DYK for Douglas Stuart (writer)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of AlphaFold
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ITN recognition for U. A. Khader
Nice work! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:08, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks John! Much appreciated. Ktin (talk) 02:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

John le Carré
You really didn't have to! I mostly was removing cruft, not doing the hard work of adding references. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:39, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , not at all. You have done the more difficult part of pouring through those links with a fine grained tooth that truly makes the article better-off! Onwards and upwards! Ktin (talk) 20:34, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for John le Carré

 * , thanks much, Martin! Ktin (talk) 20:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for this. I didn't spot it because it was listed on the wrong date. I've moved the original nom to the right date and deleted mine - Dumelow (talk) 15:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! cheers. Ktin (talk) 15:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Alex Trebek
Thank you for the tough job to find refs! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

look today for bright memories --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

look today at BB music, a little crusade of mine ;) - his birthday on St Cecilia's day, patron saint of music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , very nice! Is there somewhere I can listen to a piece as well? An Youtube (or other) link, perhaps? Ktin (talk) 18:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I found nothing there, and by descriptions it's excessively noisy ;) - There's a link to a YT video with music below the beeches image, - that was sent to me yesterday for today's memorial day, - interspersed with German meditation, but great pics even then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Today's DYK: to be sung "happily" - that one comes with a YT conducted by the composer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * See my talk today for another good one ;) - I'll review Guido Goldman if nobody beats me to it. Quick input before being off for a while: numerical ref order, and please reference the date thing in every related sentence if it matters. Or - perhaps better - make a hook without it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks Gerda! I already see that you have been helping with some copy-edits on the page. Much appreciated. I am going to reintroduce the phrase 'west' perhaps with a reference to BRD, if that is alright with you. source Ktin (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Just saw this one come up Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know. Nicely done. Ktin (talk) 00:22, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
I support the praise, loved it, and loved to see her all day! Same for Beethoven today, and thank you for noticing. Only, I didn't like that we decide someone's birthday per RfC. Google decided for 17 December, and we will have to work a miracle or have nothing then. I just noticed and have no idea yet. Let's first celebrate today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , what did the Bonn institute say re: date of birth? That should be definitive, right? Ktin (talk) 14:54, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * They say what we all say that we don't know, - no certificate. We know when he was baptised, - and we can't help Google. - Great that Singh climbed to the stats. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

One tiny thing
You recently referred to "a wrestler" with over 200 acting credits being ignored by those with high standards for far too long. Please understand, this hurts my pride. I gotta be a fan, I can't let it slide. Zeus was a phony, a mythical character, a con! Not even "fake" in the usual way, where Mantaur ain't fooling any farmers' daughters. The Mike behind the Moo there at least went to school, made his towns and accepted TV exposure as its own reward. Zeus dropped out after (barely) passing Clobber and Squeeze class, never worked a house show and was paid around $300,000 for four easy tapings. No disrespect intended, he played the role well, same as Mickey Rourke did his, and his in-ring stuff was even better than Rourke's. But that was in 1989 dollars, while George Gray was "starring" alongside Hogan as two characters, in singles matches for $5,000 each, except on TV! Wrestler, schmestler, just an illusion.

Anyway, not knocking you, him, ITN or SAG, just something to consider. Common outsider misconception. Don't believe everything you read about Vince's Santa Claus going out in a blaze of roid rage, either, his name was Xanta Claus and roids weren't really his thing. Santa with Muscles and his brother from Santa's Slay, though...let's just say they "looked the part".

Never too soon to start sprucing up Hogan and Goldberg's filmographies, I guess is what I'm saying, to anyone listening at this end. IMDb, TMZ, best online casinos. It's true what they say: when recent death gets hard, it's No Source Barred! InedibleHulk (talk) 13:55, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am totally lost, kind fellow editor. As a wrestling romantic myself, Undertaker, Mankind, and Stone Cold being my favorites in no particular order, I wish(ed) no disrespect. Pardon me if I did. Was it my referencing in abstract? i.e. "a wrestler" rather than by name? Ktin (talk) 07:37, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I spent about forty minutes slowly onscreen inputting a wonderful explanation, based loosely on the career paths of Cactus Jack, Stunning Steve and Mean Mark from 1989 to 1998, but was edit conflicted. Bottom line, you might have called him "an actor" or by one of his names, but it's nothing very insulting, just worth remembering how a wrestler's real life story is nothing like a Hollywood romance. Now if you'll kindly excuse me, I have to channel my rage into something more productive than flipping the double bird to the ham 'n' egger below and chucking him off the virtual cage! InedibleHulk (talk) 17:53, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , wonderful. Now, remember, no virtual cage match can beat this match! Have a wonderful day there, while I re-live this one on YouTube. Ktin (talk) 18:17, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Anjum Singh
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! With 14,653 views, your Anjum Singh hook is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of December. Accordingly, it has been included at DYKSTATS December. Keep up the good work! Cbl62 (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thanks much. You absolutely deserve it for the hard work you put in. Hope your exams went well. Happy Holidays in advance! Ktin (talk) 01:25, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Happy holidays to you as well. Stay safe. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 02:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Udyavara Madhava Acharya
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Guido Goldman
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Geoffrey Massey
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Best wishes for 2021
… and Happy/Merry Christmas (if you celebrate!) Thanks for being a bright light in my wiki-life this year. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 00:03, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks much AP. Merry christmas and happy holidays to you as well! Wishing you and your dear ones all the joy and happiness that you can wish for as we get into the new year! Thanks for all that you do and I look forward to our interactions in the new year! Ktin (talk) 01:10, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Howdy! I tried a few edits on Barbara Rose, but, might have made the article worse off than it was to begin with. Please feel free to undo my changes. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Nope, they all look constructive to me! Thanks :) AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:06, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Deb Price
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!




 Ktin , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 21:43, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
 * Thanks . That's a beautiful card -- Has a little bit of everything! Wish you and your dear ones the very best in the upcoming year! Keep up the same enthusiasm and energy levels! Ktin (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sandy Grant Gordon
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Template:Did you know nominations/Jackie Saccoccio
I'd be happy to copyedit this (to the extent it's necessary); may have some time tomorrow. No chance of getting a freely licensed image of any of her paintings, I suppose? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 06:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks AP. Will give the images some more search tomorrow AM. I tried unsuccessfully earlier today, and ended up uploading my own image of a gestural abstract painting . lol. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 07:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Had no idea you were a painter! It's beautiful. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 07:06, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , lol. Nope nope. Far from one. This was one of those family paint night events from around this time last year. Ktin (talk) 07:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Still better than anything I could do! AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 07:12, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks much for your edits, AP! The article looks good! I have asked the Gallery for a picture. 50:50 chance of getting a reply. Let's see. Ktin (talk) 22:36, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Howdy! Thanks for all the edits on Lorraine Monk. I think the article has shaped up quite well. Quick check -- do you know much about the Canadian archives and the image use policy? Reason I ask is there are lots of good images here. Based on the image use policy, and if there is a central archives from where we could use some of these images, they could come handy on the article. Amongst others, I am thinking the US bicentennial gift image could be powerful (also, for the DYK). Might be worth checking on the US side too. Appreciate any leads if you come across one. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 07:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: Found this PDF Page 18 has the image. Not sure if / how we can extract though. Ktin (talk) 07:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: EUREKA!!! Got it! Ktin (talk) 08:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow, fantastic work on that. How ever did you find it?? Given that Monk worked for the Canadian government for so long, I'm surprised there aren't more images of her on government sites. A quick search at Library and Archives Canada turned up a few images of Thelonious Monk, but nothing of Lorraine … AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks a ton AP. Looks great! Can I bother you to extract one of row 3, column 4 or column 5 and we can put that in the body. That will be the picture for the DYK as well, hopefully. Ktin (talk) 18:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think they should all now be in commons:Category:Lorraine Monk, but my eyes are a bit worn out from looking at tiny images? Looks to me that there are five images of Monk on the contact sheet and I think we've got them all (with some duplicates). AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Brilliant. Thanks AP. My bad, I didn't see this one earlier. Ktin (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Btw, I just emailed the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library to see if they have any full-size copies of the photos you found in the contact sheet. Not expecting to hear back for a bit, given holidays and Covid, but you never know … AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 19:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , That's a great idea! Thanks much. Also, if there is a leeway to use the image from the PDF (slide #18) that might give us a slightly higher resolution. In other news, no updates from the Museum re: Jackie Saccoccio. Probably the holidays, but, will follow up again. Ktin (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Since it's obviously the same image I think it's technically fine, but I'm still reluctant to upload from something that's not explicitly tagged as PD. A good sign, though, since it seems to indicate that they have a high-res print on file or can produce one from the negative … AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , totally agree. Makes sense. Ktin (talk) 23:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Saw your update on the article! This is brilliant! Thanks so much for pursuing! Have a wonderful week ahead. Regards Ktin (talk) 19:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Jackie Saccoccio
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of AlphaFold
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DYK nomination of Minoru Makihara
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DYK for Joseph Bachelder III
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Hadn't seen you around for a while. Thanks for helping out on Kim Tschang-yeul; I speedied it at a copyvio yesterday and then built it back as a stub, so it's obviously not as complete as it could be. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 00:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Hola! Was taking a bit of a time off after getting worked up on an off-topic at WP:ITNRD. So, taking it slow now for a couple of days. :) Should be back to normal mode soon. Hope all is well at your end. Ktin (talk) 01:02, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ITNRD can be incredibly frustrating, so I can understand wanting to cool off. All's well here, but am under renewed lockdown so am not so thrilled with that … AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 01:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Yup, fingers crossed that everything will return to normal soon. Will spend some time on the KTY article tomorrow. Ktin (talk) 03:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Minoru Makihara
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Indira Joseph Venniyoor
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Sandy Grant Gordon
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Constance Isherwood
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ITN recognition for Godfrey Hodgson

 * -- Thanks Amakuru. Quick check, please can you see if you might have inadvertently missed the credit for Lewis Wolpert at WP:ITNRD. Thanks much in advance. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 16:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, so I did. Sorry about that, and I have now rectified it. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 17:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks much Amakuru. Ktin (talk) 17:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Lorraine Monk
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding cause of death in Deaths in 2021
Hi. I appreciate why you left some kind of instruction in your recent edit summary at the above page, to the effect that editors should always add a cause of death. But it's just not that simple. If reliable sources on the internet don't quote a cause of death, we cannot add them. And as we expressly discourage guesswork and assumption, your plea will prove moot. CoD at Deaths is often a contentious area, and we need to keep them real, authentic and properly sourced. Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 22:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , No worries at all. You can use this one. Cheers. Thanks for all that you do. Ktin (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Suhail Zaheer Lari
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for AlphaFold
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for David Washbrook
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Monika Tilley
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Maria Guarnaschelli
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RDs
Thanks for your efforts to streamline and standarize the RD process. I don't have the energy to pursur this, and you are under no obligation either, but one thing that has irked me is that while some admins leave a 7th (or even 8th) item posted if it hasn't had "enough time", whether it be 24h or more recently 12h, there's a few admins that will remove it before the "time" has elapsed. One problem is that there has never been consensus to formalize it. As far back at least December 2020— even before COVID —the issue came up at Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_79, but the rough consensus was to leave it as an IAR exception. Now some admins have said it's too complicated for them to check timestamps, etc. so they don't want yet another thing to check. But there is at least one, if not more, admins that, instead of just blindly adding one RD and removing another, seem ok to go the extra step of checking for extras beyond 6 and promptly removing them. So perhaps some can't be bother to do one extra timestamp check but same person(s) don't mind doing another extra check of removing RD when > 6. Ok, the math is a little more work. C'est la vie. It's funny that I see "admin discretion" overly used everywhere else to questionably defend admin decisions. But allowing "admin discretion" seems rarely done at ITN/RD, where posts are commonly pulled. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops. I'm pretty sure the 24h debate has been discussed for a while, but that link above was actually recent.  I don't have time right now to research further.—Bagumba (talk) 18:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks Bagumba. I agree with almost all of your points. I think at the end of the day, it boils down to Admin capacity. That is definitely hard to come by making us hold onto a scant resource. As TRM notes in one of his more recent posts on that thread, decoupling roles and providing editors some tools to promote etc., might be the only way this would ever get solved, but, for sure that is not practical. C'est la vie indeed. Some days, I tell myself that all of this is not worth it. I might just need to pipe down and step back. Thanks for your message here and all that you do. Good luck and cheers. Ktin (talk) 19:18, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about the Monika Tilley and the nipple-baring white mesh swimsuit worn by Cheryl Tiegs drew 7,186 page views (599 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is the one of most viewed hooks so far during the month of February and has earned a place near the top of the Best of February list. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 10:03, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks CBL. Much appreciated. I am still thinking of the possibilities that could have been if we were able to source the image for the article and for the hook. Cheers. Have a great rest of your day. Ktin (talk) 21:09, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Janne Heltberg


Hello, Ktin. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Janne Heltberg".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 03:50, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for this note. I have no recollection of using the Articles for Creation process. Can I request a refund to see what this one was about? Thanks. Ktin (talk) 04:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Greetings. Following up on this request. Can you assist when you have a moment? Ktin (talk) 06:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , greetings. Following up again on this request. Please can you assist? Thanks. Ktin (talk) 09:42, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Ktin, just passing through. I'm guessing Liz just missed your messages, and I've restored this draft for you. In the future you can ask at WP:REFUND/G13. —  The  Earwig ⟨talk⟩ 23:00, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , wonderful. Thanks much. And, it is a pleasure to be seeing your ping. I am fan of your Copyvio tool. Thanks again. Ktin (talk) 23:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Done. Ktin (talk) 06:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Constance Isherwood
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Woohoo! Thanks much. Will remember this one for sometime -- 25th DYK! Thanks! Ktin (talk) 00:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alberto Corazón
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DYK for Charan Gill
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I took a look at this article following your comment at WP:ERRORS. The text seems fine but it's a shame that there isn't a picture to go with it.  If there is no free image available, you may not be aware that we have the option to use another picture as fair use once a person is dead, and so we might add a good picture such as this one.  I have often done this myself for other subjects such as Jack Wasserman and you can see the details of the image at File:Jack Wasserman.jpg.  If you should need any help with this, please feel free to ask. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for this offer of help Andrew. Recently, in a few discussions on the topic of WP:FAIRUSE at WP:ITNRD the recommendation was that we wait a couple of months after a person's death to claim an image under fair use. Hence, did not use an image under that category. I find myself lost with all the image guidelines that are around and I do seek support to help upload images. E.g. at Priscilla Jana. That said, do you think this particular image, by virtue of being from the government (provincial), will automatically be in public domain? Thoughts? Thanks. Ktin (talk) 22:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I get trouble sometimes too and have even had photographs deleted that I took myself. So, it is sadly necessary to master the rules about this.  I am familiar with the argument that recent deaths are not eligible for fair use but that's wrong in my opinion, not being based upon any firm policy.  As there is no exact consensus about this, it helps to consult with others about particular cases so that a good search is made and all options explored.  In any case, all copyrights expire given sufficient time and so any limits are always temporary.
 * In the case of Charan Gill, the BC government website seems quite aggressive in claiming copyright and charging a fee for use so that may not be the best choice. It might be easier to use a photograph such as this, which first appeared on Twitter.
 * Andrew🐉(talk) 23:18, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * A note on fair use of recently deceased bios from a . Consensus on how long we have to wait is murky. The most recent discussion I'm aware of is Files_for_discussion/2020_May_29, where the closer determined "this discussion is of the view that an interpretation of the policy WP:NFCC that presumes that free images of recently deceased people are normally available is mistaken, and that the guideline WP:NFCI #10 should be read with the presumption that obtaining a free image of recently deceased people is normally not likely." (though this is not an RFC and is not encoded in policy) Eddie891 Talk Work 13:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * FYI, I just checked the |Ekkehard_von_Kuenssberg|High_Point,_Bradford|Mikiko_(choreographer)|Charan_Gill|Congress_of_Ch%C3%A2tillon|Deborah_Archer|Dog_%26_Bull stats for yesterday's DYK bundle. They worked out much as I expected.  Charan Gill's blip wasn't as big as the one from ITN but you did well to get two bites at the cherry as, per WP:DYKRULES, articles which have appeared at ITN are not eligible for DYK.  If anyone complains, point them at WP:IAR :) Andrew🐉(talk) 10:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , So, there is a fine print there. It should have appeared as a "bold" article in ITN,which this didn't. Cheers :) Ktin (talk) 13:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. I had supposed that the RDs appeared in bold text but see now that it's only the words "Recent deaths".  This seems like a loophole but now that RD is so ephemeral, it's reasonably fair. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:06, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Constance Isherwood and her remarkable dedication to the law drew 12,307 page views (513 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks so far during the month of February and has earned a place on the Best of February list. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 14:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks CBL. Much appreciated. Ktin (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)