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Prince Philip
Please stop adding Andrew to Prince Philip's name at the Croatian wiki. He is not called Andrew. Nor should you be using rollback to undo good faith edits. DrKiernan (talk) 14:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Please, post me hr.wiki-related messages on hr.wiki, not here. It's pure luck that I've visited en.wiki. Kubura (talk) 01:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bernice Carr Vukovich


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Proposed deletion of Croatian–Ottoman Wars


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Nomination of Hajdučka Republika Mijata Tomića for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hajdučka Republika Mijata Tomića is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. I have included in this nomination the article Kubura (currency).

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Tesla
Hi Kubura

Tesla's nationality, ethnicity, birth country and citizenship have been debated at length on the article talk page. If you have better sources than the article current uses, please present them at so that a new consensus can be reached. I have removed the category Croatian Inventions from List of Nikola Tesla patents. Most of his inventions were made while a US citizen. More importantly, a list of patents does not belong in Category:Croatian inventions. - MrX 03:25, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

My answer on MrX's page. Kubura (talk) 03:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Croatian help needed!
Hello Kubura, I'm contacting you because we need some Croatian translators to help with the deployment of the new VisualEditor on hr.wikipedia. There are help pages, user guides, and description pages that need translating, as well as the interface itself. The translating work is going on over on MediaWiki: Translation Central. I also need help with a personal message for the Croatian Wikipedians. If you are able to help in any way, either reply here, or head over to TranslationCentral. Thanks for your time, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 23:05, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Warning
This warning comes somewhat late after the fact, but given your long prior history of disruption I believe it is still relevant and necessary. I just happened to notice that back in June you did this:. This shows you are still following your tendentious agendas in the same way as when you were topic-banned some years ago. If I see anything like this from you again, you will be topic-banned permanently, without any further warning. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

RE: Široka Kula massacre
First of all, Kubura, stop accusing people who disagree with you or question you of being "ignorant".
 * "Hanging of suspected United Irishmen." -- what the heck does this mean and what has it to do with the issue of war crimes by Croats and Serbs?


 * "All Croatian court decisions are valid worldwide." -- um, no!! Not every country recognises another country's jurisprudence, particularly if the country whose jurisprudence is not a recognized state, is regarded by the United Nations or other such organizations. Do most countries recognize whatever legal system exists in countries like Iran or North Korea or Equitorial Guinea? (I am not comparing Croatia to those countries, by the way, just so you know.) Did American and Irish rebels recognize British jurisprudence? Did the Boers in South Africa? Do fundamentalists of whatever religion always recognize civil laws?


 * Thirdly and most importantly -- the issue of Serbs and Croats (or Serbians and Croatians, whichever you prefer) -- is one which is taken to heart with great intensity amongst the international diaspora, in ethnic and religious terms. One can almost guess the identity of a writer based on how and what he/she writes, what statistics he/she relies upon, how he/she posits his/her thoughts and/or ideology.


 * For example, if I were to say I genuinely believe that the mostly-unatoned Ustashe war crimes of WWII have played an enormous role in shaping the contemporary Serb mentality, you can guess that most likely I am not Croatian, or I am perhaps an iconoclast, like Milan Levar (rest his soul), although not as brave, or Slavenka Drakulic (who decamped to Sweden), but they are fairly few and far between. If I say that Split nationalists behave like Nazis, you know where I generally stand. In short, what I am trying to say is that it is obvious, Kubura, on which side of the aisle you belong, like certain other editors, so you are considered by those who are not aligned with you to be perhaps overtly POV-pushing. (I must admit that Joy is remarkably even-handed.) There are also pro-Serb editors on Wikipedia, but not as organized or masterful at apologetics as the pro-Croat side, it seems. Even American television shows, such as NCIS, NCIS Los Angeles and ER (this last likely thanks to Goran Visnjic, whose first film role was as a neo-Ustase (see IMDb), who served in the war himself in real life, and whose real-life father-in-law (Antun Vrdoljak) is a bureaucratic neo-Ustashe in my opinion), engage in massive anti-Serb propaganda. Serbs are not angels but they are not demons either. Quis separabit?  19:54, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Deletion proposal
Croatian–Ottoman Wars has been tagged for deletion. Please have your say. Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

20-20 Vision - Izazov iz Walesa
Swansea Football Club and

Puno hvala za dodavanje podataka na izazov! Međutim, možemo samo dodati krpelja u tablici, ako informacije je dodan od 24. svibnja. Stvarno mi je žao da nije bilo jasno. I sada sam dodao sentance iznad stola. Minimalna tekst potrebno: 2.000 bajtova teksta. Hvala - i, još jednom - Ispričavam se zbog ne tako da je jasno.

Ako možete dodavati 1.000 bajtova, onda ću biti sretan, i moje srce će pjevati iz ovdje u Hrvatsku! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Croatian Wikipedia
S vašom odlukom na hrvatskoj Wikipediji se ne mogu složiti jer ovo nema ikakve veze sa zdravim razumom, ponajviše neutralnim i objektivnim moderiranjem, dapače, ovo je potpuni debakl da ne jedan već dva administratora hrvatske Wikipedije ne znaju niti razumiju pravilnik uređivanja Wikipedije. Ovo u višegodišnjem uređivanju engleske Wikipedije nisam doživio. Ovo je za anale i biti će primjer da podijelim s engleskim administratorima kao primjer neodgovornog uređivanja i moderiranja na "stranim" Wikipedijama.

1) Netočno ignoriranje konteksta. Prema pravilu WP:VERIFY svaka činjenica mora biti potkrijepljena izvorom, a u vezi te rečenice (u kojoj su sporna dva linka tj. poveznice na dva grada) je bila citirana knjiga bez broja stranice, kasnije se referirajući na str. 62-63, koji opet, kao i sam izvor općenito (knjiga), uopće ne podržavaju te dvije poveznice.

2) Netočno. Ukoliko urednik nije spososan parafrazirati citirano iz izvora onda je to nesposobnost i trebao bi se informirati kako to propisno učiniti, a ne biti isprika da drugi trebaju provjeravati i popravljati njihovu nesposobnost (You may not simply brush it off and assume someone else will come and fix the issue) ili kako se samim tim treba opravdavati kršenje autorskih prava. Štoviše, urednika Ceha sam upozorio kako to propisno učiniti (npr. staviti u navodnike), ali je svejedno nastavio revertirati jedno te isti tekst. Prema pravilu WP:NFC te izjavi administratora na engl. Wikipediji u potpunosti ste pogriješili jer "content that violates any copyrights is deleted. The person removing a copyright violation is under no obligation to re-write the content". Ono što je još apsurdnije, Vi kako i urednik Ceha ignorirate da je taj tekst već bio sumiran u prethodnom paragrafu što je dovodilo do nepotrebnog dupliranja jedno te istih zaključaka. Ovo su ozbiljni propusti i kršenje za koje odbacujući stav poput vašega nije ikako prihvatljiv i ne smije se tolerirati.

3) Netočno. Išao sam po proceduri. Ja nemam obvezu ikome davati naznake, pogotovo ne urednicima koji imaju više od 10 godina iskustva, za određene osnove koje se podrazumijevaju da se znaju, ali ovakav nekvalitetan nivo uređivanja i nepoštovanje pravilnika koje je pokazao urednik Ceha ne može se uopće opravdavati iskustvom. Prema pravilu WP:BRD ukoliko je vaše uređenje (karte/dodane informacije) bilo revertirano vi ste dužni započeti razgovor o istome, a onaj koji revertira (moje dodane informacije) navesti razlog brisanja istih (nije učinjeno), potom ne započeti uređivački rat vraćanjem uređenja (karte/dodane informacije) ignorirajući razgovor. Upravo to je urednik Ceha učinio, a vi namjerno to ne želite priznati. Dapače, s obzirom da sam vidio kako imam posla s urednikom koji nema pojma niti o pravilnom uređivanju niti o proceduri morao sam učiniti njegov posao i započeti razgovor. Niti to vama nije dovoljno da priznate već kritizirate što sam to učinio tek nakon što sam otišao spavati, probudio se i to učinio na stanci tokom posla.

Nakon svega dovoljno ste drski da se usuđujete izjavljivati kako sam "masakrirao" članak iako sam ga doveo iz ove inačice u ovu inačicu, a također nasjedanjem na izjave "svoga" urednika (Ceha) vi mi također insinuirate negativne namjere i cenzuriranje što je potpuna glupost i nema ikakve veze s realnošću čime osobno kršite WP:GOODFAITH.

Ono što je najveća sramota je u činjenici da sam ja, koji je uređivao, pozivao i upozoravao prema pravilniku, dobio žuti karton, a potom i crveni karton s blokadom od 3 dana, dok urednik Ceha koji je upravo svjesno učinio sve ove prekršaje pravilnika uređivanja Wikipedije, ne da nije dobio niti upozorenje, već na "slobodi" iako mu je tri puta bilo objašnjeno da se ne mogu uvrstiti poveznice u članak jer krše WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY i WP:OR nije u stanju poštovati i prihvatiti iste već i dalje pokušava izigrati sustav uređivanja Wikipedije.

Toliko o tome koliko ste odgovorni i sposobni da izvršavate funkciju administratora. Može vas biti sram. Ukoliko me u roku od 24 sata ne odblokirate, a na članku maknete zaštitu i vratite ga u zadnju inačicu, u suprotnom ću ondje započeti WP:RFDA. Ugodan dan.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 22:26, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Čestitam, dobiti ćete RFDA.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 00:46, 30 October 2017 (UTC)