User talk:Kudzu1/Archive 2

Forcing new thumbnails
Tips If you want to see a new thumbnail, you can refresh the page from around your browser's cache or try purging the page on Wikipedia/Wikimedia's servers. To do the former, you can usually press something like Ctrl+Shift+R (this of course depends on your browser/OS/etc.) and to purge a page, see WP:PURGE (I have a script that adds a tab to my Monobook skin to allow me to purge a page.) Small edits to force new thumbnails are fine by me and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I figured I would let you know these little hacks for your own benefit. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

NTC
Every member of the Libyan contact group now recognizes the NTC the sole legitimate government. Including the USA.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/15/libyan-rebels-international-recognition-leaders

There are 30 members, meaning about 7 or 8 new countries recognize the NTC as of today.

Greece is also a member http://www.athensnews.gr/portal/10/41143

Zenithfel (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 Georgian protests
Do you think my editing was POV as was alleged on the page's talk page (and if so how can it be ameliorated- I honestly didn't intend anything of the sort) ?--Yalens (talk) 00:53, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you mind if I move your response to the talk page as a third opinion?--Yalens (talk) 18:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

thanks for the fix on the TLD of south sudan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linux731 (talk • contribs) 03:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi there!
Tell me what to fix, and I'll fix it. :) Sir Brightypup II 04:12, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Ajdabiya
There was already a previous discussion on this issue and it was agreed not to break the battle into two battles because there was no let up in the fighting. The loyalists did take much of the city by March 21, but there were still rebel pockets in the city center with ongoing fighting. EkoGraf (talk) 21:49, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Jordan
Here's an interesting analysis on Jordan's protests I found on Al-Jazeera: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/07/21/what-lies-beneath-jordanian-calls-reform. Anyhow, I also left you a message on the Commons regarding glitches. Thanks. --Yalens (talk) 22:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Djibouti
Coucou, for your map about Arab Spring, I believe Djibouti is an Arab country and not an non-Arab country. GabrieL (talk) 13:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

RE: Arab Spring reorganization
Glad you liked :-). The article needs updating tho, I wished we had more editors working in it :( -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:32, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Libya (Military contractors vs Mercenaries)
To reply to your edit summary: then why is that source still there for military contractors then? Furthermore, it does not use the term 'contractors' at all. Anyway, I'll refrain from getting into an edit war, but I have made mention of it on the article's talk page.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 18:33, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, made a mistake when I was looking over that. In my haste, I misread 'Military advisors' as 'Military contractors' (i.e. mercs) in the article's infobox, and was looking for 'military contractors' in the cited source (I did find 'Mil Advisors' though when I searched through it again and that is the wording in the belligerents section of the infobox in the Libyan civil war article uses which is where I realized my mistake). Made note on the section on the article's talk page too. Just wanted to clarify that its a non-issue now, sorry for the mistake.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Oregon!
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Syria uprising page
Whats up with the lead intro on the Syrian uprising page? We had a great lead two days ago. Can i change it back, cause now it is stressing Assad's "reforms" over the Syrian army's killings, which the killings are now more prominent in the news than the protests themselves.Sopher99 (talk) 19:07, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but i deleted and reformed the intro. The giant paragraphs on Assads reforms can go in the subsections. The intro is emphasizing the "reforms", when the given "reforms" make up very little importance compared the sieges killings and blockades. THe intro will concentrate more on that, otherwise the intro will bewilder people by making the killing seems like accidents and the protesters ungrateful.Sopher99 (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Your ugly intros
The way you reverted to the old intro in 2011 Syrian uprising makes it look ugly and way too long. I recommend shortening it or reverting it back to my version. A intro or lead is supposed to give a summary only. See WP:LEAD Pass a Method   talk  20:05, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, but the intro is too long. At least shorten it. Pass a Method   talk  20:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

hay
sorry i am not into wikipedia

i add 32 country as Botswana recognises Libya's rebel govt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moayedthe1 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Kudzu01, see contribs here
You might want to look into this person- they seem to have reverted you a number of times and have a user name that would deceive people into thinking they are you.--Yalens (talk) 16:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So you're implying you think he (or she) is another sock of Geromasis? (gosh, they must have no life, to create an account just to mess with you...)--Yalens (talk) 16:40, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Zliten
While I agree in part with your edit to declare the rebel attack on Zliten in late July as a first phase in a longer battle, with the second phase being what happened yesterday, I think you rushed with your conclusion that it was the second battle. The first one as you put it was not a battle, it was an uprising, and this has been described as such by almost all international media. So I renamed the article back to uprising (since that is how it was described in the international media and is known generaly). One more thing, your merging the uprising into the Misrata frontline article was also jumping the gun. A discussion was initiated to merge the uprising article into the Misrata frontline article, but concencuss was never reached with 4 people against the merger and 3 for it, some would say there were more against merger. Without a concencuss to merge thus in fact there was also no concencuss that the uprising was part of the Misrata frontline battle (which most of those who were opposed to the merger thought). I myself don't think it was a part of it because the Misrata frontline was a full 45 kilometers still away from Zliten when the uprising occured. If you think the uprising was part of the Misrata frontline battle than please continue the discussion on the talk page before making radical changes. Thank you. Keep up the good work. :) EkoGraf (talk) 06:16, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I ment the re-organisation in the campaignbox, not a full merger of the article to the other. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Everything is ok now. :) EkoGraf (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Tunisia-NTC
Tunisia recognizes NTC as sole legitamtite government- so yeah, change the map and such. http://www.ldnews.com/ci_18724533 Zenithfel (talk) 23:28, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Libyan Revolution and Libyan Civil War
I really liked your proposal of having the two separate articles, one about the armed conflict and one about the overall movement. I am very new to Wikipedia, and I don't feel experienced enough undertaking a task of creating the new article and then separating the articles to their area's of focus (which will probably be like doing surgery to separate conjoined twins). However, if you want to create the new article and hopefully settle the endless debate, I'd be happy to help!! Regardless, I think it's a good suggestion, and I just wanted to say so. B-I-G and S-M-R-T!!1! (talk) 01:12, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a great idea, and I would be happy to assist if you'd like, whether through hands-on editing work or through feedback. Just let me know. B-I-G and S-M-R-T!!1! (talk) 18:26, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Red color on NTC map
Kudzu, I think that you have gone to far in this red color Algeria and Russia gave only conditions, which NTC must fulfill. It's not statement like Hugo Chavez's. So delete those two. Add Zimbabwe. They are deporting ambassador, so they won't recognize. Other on the list COULD BE Equador and Nicaragua, maybe Belarus. But we must wait some time. (talk) 18:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't look on Margelov he means nothing in Russian hierarchy. He is only a lesser client of the Putin's clique. He might mean something if he is a "herald of Putin" in this moment. Watch what are saying Medvedev and Putin. Probably Putin will not give a statement in that matter, because it is a "CRUSADE". Medvedev will be probably more liberal in that matter. Recognizing battle will be taken between those two. So don't add nothing to the map red Russia before Putin or Medvedev or Lavrov say something. Look also on portuguesse speaking countries in Africa (without Mozambique) Boniek1988 (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Red color for Tripoli
We have a clear situation in Tripoli now. Loyalists only hold the suburb of the very south of Tripoli. Even abu salim and victory park are now in rebel hands. Time to change tripoli to red with blue ring. Zenithfel (talk) 13:40, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

read this Kudzu1
Hello Kudzu1, hope you are reading this, Gaddafi's goverment is out of power after the rebels conqured tripoli so I replaced Flag_of_Libya_(2011_combined).svg (both Gaddafi's Flag and the rebels flag combined ) with Flag_of_Libya_(1951).svg (just the rebels flag) in Template:Politics of Libya. I had just changed it back and you shoud not stop me or I will keep changing it back. If you want to reply to me, please reply here. 93.107.201.80 (talk) 14:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Just needed to fix a few things above. 93.107.201.80 (talk) 14:04, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * That's not really how Wikipedia works, you know. It operates on consensus. For now, Gaddafi's regime still has wide international recognition, including at the AU and the UN. Therefore, despite my personal feelings, I oppose your change. -Kudzu1 (talk) 14:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I clicked the page, read it read the "in a nutshell" box but I still don't understand what consensus is, can you dumb it down for me?, also I changed the "Politics of Libya" box back to my verson. 93.107.201.80 (talk) 18:17, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, stop changing the infobox back to your version, or you are going to get yourself blocked for edit warring. Consensus means that if your edit is opposed by other active editors on the page, you can't go ahead and make it unless an administrator intervenes and says you're in the right (and interference like that is uncommon, especially in disputes like this). It's a cornerstone of Wikipedia. You're going to have to convince other editors that you're right if you want to make the change; continuing to revert their edits is going to get you in trouble. -Kudzu1 (talk) 18:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok I will stop but other people are doing it, for example, Go to the page of libya and go down to "see also", you will see Flag_of_Libya_(1951).svg instead of Flag_of_Libya_(2011_combined).svg next to the "libya portal" box. That one was not made by me nor could it been for the page is protected and I am not a user of the site and it was this little thing that made me want to change Template:Politics of Libya to make have the rebels flag, I hope you understand that I'm not the only one. 93.107.201.80 (talk) 18:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Albania should the entire chronology
Albania should the entire chronology needs of all chronology, because the opposition has been reluctant. To clarify the idea to all information on this issue. I believe that you understand the situation in Tirana. --Irvi Hyka 17:34, 28 August 2011 (UTC)Irvi Hyka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irvi Hyka (talk • contribs)
 * For me this is not a problem, just like the present to the real opinion of Albania. I believe that would be the right word every poziconi. In Tirana, the situation was delicate. I have absolutely no problem. Like just make it clear. Friendly Irvi Hyka  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irvi Hyka (talk • contribs) 18:00, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

bilateral relations template replacement
Not sure you noticed - I undid your edit because it didn't seem right technically. If you need any help, let me know. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 20:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

International reactions to the Syria uprising
Some links if you want to continue my updates of the Russia section (I had intended to work on the US, China, Britain, Germany, Portugal and France sections, working down the page): Okay, I'm gonna get off now. Hope the links serve you well, or me if you don't get around to it.--Yalens (talk) 02:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * [| Russia and China resisting the proposed UN resolution (which we haven't put into the page yet...) on Syria with heavy sanctions; also info on Russia's "rival" proposal; lots of other good info about the situation in general]
 * [| Churkin's comments on sanctions on Syria, lots of other info again]
 * [| US envoy visits Syria; UN inquiry; Russia, China and Cuba make huge protest at the UN]

danmark reconize ntc
hay i put that danmark reconized ntc but today someone removed it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.138.54 (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Lithuanian war on Foreign relations of the NTC page
Someone has again changed the place of Lithuania on the list. Maybe we should send an email to the Lithuanian ministry, because we will be probably changing place of Lithuania and somebody will do the same but in other direction.Boniek1988 (talk) 16:50, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Libya contact group 6 meeting
On the sixth meeting were 10 countries that are not at the list (Bosnia and Herzegovina, Gabon, Mauritania, Niger, Chad, Switzerland, Columbia, Iraq, Russia). But where to include them. Probably Nigeria and Saudi Arabia didn't take part in conference despite they were invited. Boniek1988 (talk) 01:23, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Distruptive edits
User Kevorkmail is making frequent disruptive edits on the Syrian uprising page. Not only is he constantly putting armed attacks as one of the methods of protests, but he is also attempting to use russia today and such "anti-western" websites to try to convey that the people of Syria are not protesting against the government but rather alawites only. Sopher99 (talk) 13:08, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

NTC map probably again
Could you change the color of grey dot symbolizing French Southern and Arctic Lands (north of Antarctic)?Boniek1988 (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Seychelles
Why did you Kudzu changed place of Seychelles in the list? There is that they are going to recognize, but NTC was not yet recognized. This is probably because of Reuters added Seychelles to the list, yes? In the same position is Pakistan at this moment. Boniek1988 (talk) 19:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. Let it be where it is even, if it is stinging my eyes, just like in case of Colombia (with changing of date later). I will look on Gabon when you've mentioned it.Boniek1988 (talk) 19:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course the situation of Pakistan and Seychelles is only my opinion, but in my point of view very similar.Boniek1988 (talk) 19:33, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, we didn't check the Gabon recognition. And we were wrong in that thing. President requested it to the government on 14 August 3 days after speaking about it and the government recognised on 22 August ; So what Gabon to change date and place in the list??? .Boniek1988 (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So if we both are not sure it is recognition the we probably should cut it and paste to Other countries as I did before.Boniek1988 (talk) 19:50, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, I didn't noticed that, because I watched down the article on the date of publishing. It is probably a mistake at writing or printing, but on the government site is 22. But in the other hand on the government site the date can be misleading, because the meeting of the government could be at 19 to the late night hours and statement just published on 22. What do you think, which of it could be right?Boniek1988 (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. We will leave Seychelles where they are.Boniek1988 (talk) 19:58, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So we have an agreement in Gabon. Boniek1988 (talk) 20:00, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

BAfA in Spanish ALBA
I don't know what to do with other members of Bolivarian ALLiance for the Americas, because there is no source for their presence at the meeting there are members of this body were listed and on the bottom are almost all ministers listed at meeting but nothing about presence of representatives of Dominica, St V&G, A&B. Except this second hand sources that they were there ;. There was also the Ecuador statement a bit confusing to me Boniek1988 (talk) 19:54, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Kudzu you wrongly colored those islands. One to many in Minor Carribean and Dominica is still grey, when it should be red.Boniek1988 (talk) 07:41, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Surname vs. MoS
I would be interested in knowing the exact WP:MoS section that deals with this. I have been unable to find anything there, but might have missed it. Thanks. RN1970 (talk) 13:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. You can find that here. -Kudzu1 (talk) 17:17, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it is appreciated. I suspect this falls under "When referring to the person who is the subject of the article, use just the surname unless the reference is part of a list of family members or if use of the surname alone will be confusing ". On that basis I am considering adding the first name (i.e., Khamis Gaddafi instead of just Gaddafi), but if you object I will refrain from that. RN1970 (talk) 23:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I tried to do that already, but definitely in sentences or grafs where Khamis Gaddafi is mentioned in relation to his father (such as the one you originally changed), it's not necessary to do so. -Kudzu1 (talk) 23:44, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Project Libya
Hey, I would like to add myself to the participants of Project Libya, but it is semi-protected and I can't edit it :( Should I just wait until I'm auto confirmed or is there something else I should do?  I think that my edits have shown that I'm helping, but that's not for me to judge :P Jeancey (talk) 01:59, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Syria
On the Syrian page info-box, the Syrian government's claims to insurgent casualties have recently been added. Some users suggest accepting the insurgent casualties as part of the 2200 - 3105 civilian casualties claims via Un and several rights group, but i argue that it is a separate number entires, as the Syrian government claims 1400 dead not 2600, and they further claim that the 1400 is comprised of only 700 soldiers and 700 insurgents. Thus they are not addressing the 2600 number. When you see the fatality box please relocate as a separate Syrian government claimed number altogether. Thanks. Sopher99 (talk) 16:36, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Recognition-by-time map for the NTC
Would you rather I send my map to you by email or just post it here (its based off the "old" recognition map, fyi) .--Yalens (talk) 01:32, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Here it is: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Recognition_order_of_TNC.png ... Although we now may have to update it hugely in light of recent developments with the UN. --Yalens (talk) 20:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Iran and NTC
Someone added it to the discussion. you should add it to the article, because I will not have any contact with internet in next few days from today. http://www.lorientlejour.com/category/Dernières+Infos/article/722805/LIran_reconnait_de_facto_le_CNT_libyen.html Boniek1988 (talk) 13:32, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Soapboxing
There's a reason WP:SOAP applies to talk pages. If you start insulting certain styles of politics you don't agree with, or their proponents, then you'll tempt a reaction and start a debate that probably wouldn't be aimed at improving the article you're dealing with. I see you're from the U.S. The same would apply if I labelled your president a "hypocrite" or your government "imperialist". Please keep your opinions to yourself.  Night w   22:53, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Republic of China versus Libya under Muammar Gaddafi
Similar to Republic of China, old Libyan regime controls some parts of the country (mostly South desert and some towns in North like Sirte) and the NTC is still unrecognized by some countries. Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya page is a victim of recentism bias, it's redirected to a history page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Socialist_People's_Libyan_Arab_Jamahiriya&redirect=no a Kavas (talk) 12:41, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Foreign relations of Libya
There is no need to thank... - Nabla (talk) 22:05, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Research Advice re General People's Committee Article
Dear Kudzu1,

I am writing a research paper on the history of Libyan political personnel and came across a wiki article you contributed to, which I translated from Arabic to English using google. The article is entitled “General People’s Committee” and can be accessed as follows: http://ar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/اللجنة_الشعبية_العامة

This article is exactly what I’m looking for, but there is a historical hole from 1990 – 2006. Do you have any idea why these dates are missing from the article? Do you have any information on this topic pertaining to 1990 – 2006 or know of any other sources I can consult to find the missing information?

I have to submit my paper to my professor by Monday morning, so if you could prove any help at all, I would truly appreciate it! Please feel free to contact me directly via e-mail at agreen789@yahoo.com

Thank you in advance for your time and hope to hear from you soon!

Sincerely, Ann Green --AGreen789 (talk) 04:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Syria 2011
Keep your valued ratings for yourself.--Kevorkmail (talk) 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

NTC map
Hi, could you change color of Mauritius from gray to light blue?Boniek1988 (talk) 18:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Somali to dark blue and one problem:

I found this article, but I have a big problem to translate it properly and understand it in polish. I mean only the first part. Did Uganda decided to recognise NTC in all parts or only as representative of Libya in UN? I think that Uganda recognised NTC as representative at this meeting mentioned in the article, am I right?Boniek1988 (talk) 12:27, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So, Uganda and Switzerland(here I'm very ambivalent) to part of recognise, yes?Boniek1988 (talk) 15:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's because that could not be not used by that minister, but by reporter, but they ground it on statements and news agencies so we could change it, but it won't change my feelings about this. Ok, I'll change it.Boniek1988 (talk) 15:45, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I knew to date it on 29 and please change color of countries on map after my changes.Boniek1988 (talk) 16:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Namibia to dark red .Boniek1988 (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Now Bangladesh to dark blue.Boniek1988 (talk) 21:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've found this article, but I'm not sure to add Pakistan to recognition part. . And second that changes things, so Pakistan to dark blue .Boniek1988 (talk) 14:00, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking about adding all countries that said that they shall support NTC th the recognition part just like Mali here:. What is your opinion?Boniek1988 (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion everything is still open. It is still possible that one of Kaddafis sons could form a government in exile. It is still not closed and not historical in my opinion. But ok, I will suspend with any actions more radical, but look also here Boniek1988 (talk) 17:14, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * North Korea probably to red:Boniek1988 (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tanzania to dark red Boniek1988 (talk) 15:30, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Kenyan invasion of Somalia (2011) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kenyan invasion of Somalia (2011) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Incivilty from other users
After reading the discussion here, I would say you would be completely justified in reporting some of the users for incivility and personal attacks. Just my two cents.  Jim Sukwutput  05:47, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Pictures regarding 2011 Bahraini uprising
Dear Kudzu1,

I uploaded some images and I would like you to fit them into 2011 Bahraini uprising and Timeline of the 2011 Bahraini uprising. (also notify me if you think I need to work on any copyright issue that might rise in the future)

The pictures are:, and

I'm asking you to do this because I think you have NPOV. Bahraini Activist (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is needed
Dear Kudzu1,

Can I have your opinion regarding this topic? thanks. Bahraini Activist (talk) 08:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Libya calls
Welcome again Kudzu, just yesterday Mauritania recognised NTC, could you make changes in that map of recognition?Boniek1988 (talk) 01:31, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Syria
Hello, I'd like to join in on WikiProject Syria. What should I do? IntrospectiveReader (talk) 17:53, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Just put your name down under the list of participants on the WikiProject Syria page. Anyone can join. -Kudzu1 (talk) 17:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Archive
Have you ever thought of making one because this talk page is really long? Dan653 (talk) 22:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

wikipedia grammar
Are you a paid editor of wikipedia?

Do you support the current grammar rules? How would you feel if these rules were changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SlashinatorX (talk • contribs) 22:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Why would you be mad if using 3 instead of three was allowed? Are you progressophobic? I am a fan of progress. There is nothing wrong with numbers & ampersands. I will continue to fight this unreasonable & illogical system till the end. There is nothing logical about the current rules. There is nothing logical about writing 4 July 1776. Go live in the forest if you hate progress & logic so much.

SlashinatorX (talk) 23:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Why is using three better than using 3? You are a conformist whos afraid to think outside the box. Using numbers & ampersands uses up alot less space thereby saving resources. If all wikipedia articles used progressive grammar that would make wikipedia use less bandwidth because its less characters & spaces. It's progressive in every definition of the word. It's just people like you that grew up being forced to use traditional grammar that are keeping us from moving forward. Using numbers & ampersands can also look just as professional as traditional grammar. Do we speak the same way we did hundreds of years ago? no, our language changed. & I think this stupid rule can change too if society opened up.

So may I ask what you view as progressive? SlashinatorX (talk) 00:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Also I have Aspergers Syndrome. I think using up more space than needed looks terrible. I think the only reason you think progressive grammar looks terrible is because you havent read anything that used it. You're too used to reading traditionally written stuff so progressivly written stuff looks scary to you. I believe that fighting against the current system & changing grammar rules in society is what Im meant to do. I've written a blog about it www.slashinatorx.wordpress.com/my-grammar I have no respect for traditional grammar because it is unnecessary & looks terrible. Until you convince me why using up less space is a bad idea then I will continue to fight for my cause. Most of the people where I live think I have a good idea but are afraid to adopt it because of the trouble they'll receive if they use it. Also you forgot to tell me what you think progressive means. I think it means improving & moving forward despite traditions. SlashinatorX (talk) 00:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you have any other arguments against progressive grammar than it being ugly? Cause I could easily say the same thing about traditional grammar which I have. Could you also read my blog I posted & tell me what you think about my arguments?

Hey here's the Syrian revolution timeline written in progressive grammar: http://slashinatorx.wordpress.com/syria/

Vandalism
Please stop deleting my edits on the Syrian uprising timeline. I spent time making these articles shorter & simpler & you deleted everything. I dont see how you could think the word three can look better than the number 3 but you need to keep your views to yourself. Since you vandalized my work on the timeline I will redo it.

I think it is ironic how you respect the Syrian protesters (or at least thats how you would come off to someone since youre on these pages) but dont respect the Wikipedian rebels like me who want whats best for wikipedia. If wikipedia adopted my form of grammar that would make every article shorter & use less bandwith & could possibly create less need for wikipedia to have a fund raising campaign. Jimmy Wales is scared of change & is scared to stand up to the traditional grammar users like you so he conformed to the unreasonable & illogical tradition of making numbers & ampersands taboo. Many great inventors & activists in the past dealt with people that were afraid of change & progress. One of my heroes is Temple Grandin who like me has severe aspergers & was told that her ideas were bad. The rednecks in charge of the slaughter houses tried striking down her progressive ideas just like you are with me. Also if I was to really enforce all my progressive grammar on here I would be replacing and with &, second with 2nd, & more.

As with date formats if its okay to put July 4, 1776 on American articles why not the rest? just because of some common wealth crap? what are they gonna do if wikipedia doesnt conform to their illogical date formats?

You are not a employee of wikipedia. Enforce your views on other articles. Nobody is telling you that you have to delete my edits. SlashinatorX (talk) 19:30, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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I'm curious...
...what you meant by "Adding a reference in that place screws up the capital/largest city template" at the South Sudan article. Are you seeing a technical problem with how the infobox is rendered that I can't see ?  Sean.hoyland  - talk 05:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Patrick Kennedy
Just to clarify, our notability rules for politicians generally require that the person has actually held office to qualify for an article on here. That Kennedy is considering a run for Congress doesn't, in and of itself, entitle him to a Wikipedia article — unless you can demonstrate that he's already notable enough for other things, independently of his campaign plans, to qualify under a different notability guideline, he doesn't meet WP:POLITICIAN until he's actually elected to Congress. Bearcat (talk) 19:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I've tagged Cornilles and Cloud for prod deletion as not meeting the guideline. For the others, however, it's worth noting that there is a bit of a difference between being a candidate for a legislative seat and being a candidate for statewide or nationwide office such as president, governor or lieutenant governor — fairly or not, Wikipedia does tend to give more benefit of the doubt to "higher" offices than it does to "lower" ones, because the scope and relevance of the office is much larger. And at any rate, my understanding is that Kennedy isn't even officially a candidate yet, just a possible candidate who still may or may not enter the race in the first place, and may or may not win the actual nomination even if he does (though if I'm wrong and he's already got the nomination in hand, do let me know.) And while McWherter's article is still dancing on the edge, La Riva's does make a credible and referenced case for her notability as a translator and film producer, and Kane appears to have held the office of Maryland Secretary of State. Bearcat (talk) 22:04, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

South Sudan conflict
Hi. I saw that you were the main contributor to 2011–2012 South Sudan tribal clashes. I have expanded the article largely using sources collected back in March, integrating new information into a timeline. However, I have not turned the rest of the article into a timeline. It is possible to expand the article based on a timeline structure, split it and then revamp the remainder into a summary. Alternatively, one can create a much longer timeline for both north/South Sudan, and/or split the timeline and/or article into a before/after independence format. We may discuss this later. In the meantime, please do what you can to expand the article. It will likely be easy to find many sources, but integrating them into the article and making the partially-connected timeline readable will likely be more challenging. Thanks. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 23:20, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nuer White Army
The DYK project (nominate) 00:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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Egypt revolution 2012
Dear Kudzu1,

Thanks for your efforts in all of the topics regarding Arab spring, specially 2011-2012 Bahraini uprising :) I would like to ask you to move the articles regarding Egypt revolution to make them fit with their on going status since I think you're the one who moved all the other articles. This talk page is relevant. Bahraini Activist (talk) 17:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

2011-2012 Yemeni uprising
Hello, user Kudzu1. I don't want to force you or anything else, but if you are free other than doing projects regarding Syria and Bahrain, I would like to offer you to help me contribute the Yemeni Uprising. Its fine if you don't want to, just saying. Thanks 60.49.63.145 (talk) 15:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

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Bonamici
With special elections, congressional seniority is dated from the date of the election. If you look at the other special election articles, this is the style that is used. For example, the special election won by Earl Blumenauer (right above Bonamici on the List of United States Representatives from Oregon article) was on May 21, 1996, and that is the date given as his start of service. Kind of goofy, but apparently those are the rules. --Esprqii (talk) 01:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

2011–2012 Bahraini uprising
Do you still think that 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising article is out of date? I want it to appear on main page in "On This Day" next week and this might be not possible due to the tag you placed.  Bahraini Activist  Talk to me 17:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Tuareg Rebellion
This edit occurred after and without consensus from a 6 feb talk page comment. i suggest you revert till consensus decides otherwiseLihaas (talk) 06:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thats wrong per WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS and at any rate there is a discussion on this page first which should be dealt with BEFORE a revert. Its still nicer to rvt your edit till this is sorted, and its very civil now so lets keep it that way ;).Lihaas (talk) 06:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Who says its irrelevant? not one person. thats what consensus discussions are for. and IAR could be invoked on both sides.Lihaas (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * We can also invoke the "guidelines" IAR if you must insist on a non discussion oriented move.Lihaas (talk) 07:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

3RR
Just as a note, I would be a little careful when reverting ChronicalUsual's edits, as you are approaching 3 reverts in 24 hours. I have already warned him for breaking the 3RR, though he removed the warning I placed on his talk page. I'm trying not to take sides in the argument, but I suggest you open up a talk page discussion about it before it gets any more out of hand. Jeancey (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Chronical
He was actually blocked for a week due to edit warring earlier today. Jeancey (talk) 23:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Insults
Your comments on my talk pagehere are inappropriate. You question my good faith with insults about "edit-warring and POV-pushing" when in fact my edits serve to provide a more complete picture of events in Libya. You inject your own POV about "late Libyan dictator Muammar al-Gaddafi", which was uncalled for. You accuse of my trying to "slant the page" toward a certain POV. But if I wanted to do that, then I would have deleted stuff that I disagree with, which I did not do. So rather than violating rules, your problem with me seems to be that my edits don't conform to your version of events in Libya. SadSwanSong (talk) 01:42, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Those weren't insults, those are warnings. Zenithfel (talk) 01:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

User:SadSawnSong
This user is repeatedly vandalizing the libyan civil war page over the past 12 hours, skewing everything towards gaddafi's side. Zenithfel (talk) 01:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

RFC - International recognition of South Sudan - Redirect target
This RFC is related to the recent AfD you participated at. Japinderum (talk) 08:24, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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Libya Talk Page
Hi, thanks for the guidance on WP:NOTAFORUM on the Libya talk page. What I was trying to get at was: what wikipedian's views are on whether a referendum will be held in Libya, and if it was newsworthy enough to be included in the Libya page. I see now I may not have approached it in the best way, do you have any suggestions on how to best approach such a topic in future? AKhani84 (talk) 15:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Recent edits
Please stop following me around in articles that you've had no history of editing and pointlessly reverting changes like you've done here. You don't provide any input on the talk page, but instead take this hard stance of obstructing any and all changes I've made. I'm not going to get into any kind of discussion with you about the topic because I consider myself an expert who has done large amounts of research, unlike you. Such behavior is disruptive and must stop. SadSwanSong (talk) 19:50, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Syria facepalm
Sorry, followed the IP in from Flag of Libya, which they vandalised, somehow thought they were adding the tag instead of removing it. Sometimes I just feel a bit dumb. CMD (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

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Syrian sectarianism
I looked at the edit summary and honestly I'm rather confused. I can't really tell what this guy is trying save on the page (though in one instance he does delete a huge block rather than bring back deleted text); most of his edits seem to be done with the intent to make sure that individual stories of "Anti-Alawite sentiment" are on the page. In my opinion these are completely unnecessary and clog up the page. On the other hand, a small bit of what you deleted, in my opinion, may have actually been useful- for example the reuters article claiming that Alawites were trying to hide their identities and "accents" (I didn't know Alawites had accents that other coastal Syrians didn't, though it is admittedly possible). If that last bit was actually supported by the reference tagged to it, then there is an argument for putting it back on as it is a larger phenomenon. Diroc, however, could definitely use a much more constructive attitude, though. That's my two cents. I didn't think I needed to post this on the article's talk page, but if you want it there, feel free to move it. --Yalens (talk) 20:10, 13 March 2012 (UTC)