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Pictures on IGI 2 page
Should the IGI 2 pictures be removed (of the characters) since they're too detailed? I know another topic-specific (Gaming) wiki where they could go in. Anything else you feel unnecessary or too detailed? Tomjenkins52 (talk) 08:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Great work on the Soulcalibur articles!
As far as I see them, almost all of them are now precise ones. More understandable to a layman specially to your design and reception additions. Great work on them dude!--JCD (Talk) 14:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Re:
Yep, I noticed. I have no other concerns at the moment. Good job with the article. --haha169 (talk) 04:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Space Invaders
You're not stepping on anyone's toes. I'm always glad to get some feedback on an article I've been starring at for too long.

As far as expanding the gameplay, I'm at a loss as to what else can be added in that isn't trivial detail. Since the article is about the original arcade version, I tried to focus on that version's gameplay, which is very basic. Aside from expanding on the scoring (10pt for bottom aliens, 20pt for middle, 30pt for top, and randomized for the mystery ship), I'm not sure what else there is to add. But I worry that such level of detail is gameguide content. Any thoughts?

In regard to the rerelease section, I see your point, but I think it fits under the main "Impact and legacy" section as rereleases and sequels are a part of its legacy. I had planned to see what comments the article would get at GAN to maybe make some last minute tweaks before FAC. If you don't mind waiting, could you bring this up at the FAC? I think a few more viewpoints would be good.

Thanks for the comments and please feel free to share your thoughts on any article. (Guyinblack25 talk 05:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC))

Email
Hey man, can you set up your email for the wiki? I've got some sources you can use for Ivy (Soulcalibur). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 04:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sent it. Hopefully there's some good stuff you can use. Cheers, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 21:11, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That would explain why I never got the confirmation email. Anyhow, sending again. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 20:53, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Angel (The King of Fighters)
Okay. The problem I see is that this article only has 3 refs (one of them is unreliable), two paragraphs of the conception are original research, while the character has only a canonical appearance. However, I will merge it later, I forgot that Rugal Bernstein is practically a mess. Next time Ill add a tag. RegardsTintor2 (talk) 23:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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D&D VG character speedy
I've added all the fields which Minsc used for real-world data to infobox D&D character now. Can this be re-speedied? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


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Sorry we got off to the wrong foot on this one. The new template design looks good. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Mewtwo
Okay, I will try to do that. I normally don't because it is kind of tedious and annoying, but so is trying to undo edits safely. Okay. Thanks. Tezkag72 (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, what else have you been doing? I would be glad to help. I only even know about you because I was milling around my watchlist and I saw your username, and I was bored, and I clicked on it. Then I saw some of the work you had been doing and I thought, this is a good cause. Tezkag72 (talk) 21:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Game Source wiki
Hey Kung Fu Man! I'm Burner0718. I created a wiki for video game reviews and I thought you'd be interested. Please check it out and let me know what you think. Here's the link. Cheers!  Burner 0718  Jibba Jabba!  16:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: For what it's worth
I don't have any solution to make the lists better. I'm here on Wikipedia for knowledge, nothing else. Bulbapedia is the perfect replacement for that WikiProject, I'm helping out there. (and to be honest I'm mainly there for knowledge too.)

I know you're right that something can be done. I just can't see it happening that the lists will become useful. I know you miss me to be part of this WikiProject, but let's face it, most of the active contributors of the Project have left it, and it's just my time to go. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Tempspace
I think Mewtwo is ready to be submitted. Is there any more work to do. I created the article Mew (Pokémon), and I just submitted it right off the bat. Look at it now. Well anyway, talk to me later. Tezkag72 (talk) 00:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Jigglypuff
I don't know if you knew, but there already is a Jigglypuff article. Tezkag72 (talk) 18:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fansites
Nobody can provide any policy based reason as to why we should trust a source which fails WP:V and WP:RS to hold reliable transcripts. That makes the section disputed. I didn't move it, I simple inserted that the section is dubious because its under current debate. A debate which no one else has continued to add anything to. Simply ignoring it doesn't make the disputed guideline okay.--Crossmr (talk) 04:02, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * perception of logic? By the pages own admission the sites do not meet WP:V. There is no great interpretation of logic to assume that we can't trust them to host transcripts. WP:RS already has a precedent that videos hosted on non-official sites not be considered reliable because its possible they could be tampered with. In addition to this I gave an example of just such a case which has occurred on wikipedia and gone on for several months.--Crossmr (talk) 04:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Reliable sources making mistakes is fairly immaterial. Everyone makes mistakes, however as a community we consider those sites as unreliable which doesn't seem to be a contended point. I can't see how its remotely possible that we would accept that an unreliable site is allowed to host content that we consider reliable. Where is your citation for that? How can you prove to random reader X that what the fansite has is accurate? That the transcript they have of cutscene Y is 100% verbatim? Tell them to play the game and watch the cutscene? Then cite the cutscene directly. There is no reason to cite the fansite.--Crossmr (talk) 04:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Admins opinion have no more weight in enforcing policy than any other editor. Admins serve only to use their tools in places where discussion alone isn't enough. blocking disruptive editors, deleting articles, etc. If there is a reliable source, then there is no need to cite the fansite. As to what makes reviewers and other things more reliable, is spelled out on WP:RS. Yes, mistakes can be made. But just because a reliable source can make a mistake doesn't make it acceptable to cite an unreliable source. I've just read WP:V and WP:RS again but I can't find anything in there that says if your reliable source makes a mistake, feel free to cite any old page you want.--Crossmr (talk) 04:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A stubbron bull? Because I ask that all citations adhere to policy? Your only defense of this section is to claim reliable sources can make mistakes so citing a fansite is fine over and over. As far as circumventing discussion, this is a relevant discussion about reliable sources which even relates to another existing discussion on the page (youtube videos, allegedly reliable things hosted on a self-published medium). This is a completely relevant discussion to the noticeboard, as it not only applies to videogames, but other subjects as I've demonstrated with the problem with the flash comic article.--Crossmr (talk) 04:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to contact me. In response to the deleted material, it is covered briefly:

"Because of its many delays, there was much material cut and various pieces of unused data exist in the game engine, including data for a second battle with Kain, extra Soul Reaver powers, and other bosses. A compilation of these deleted materials has been compiled by Ben Lincoln at "thelostworlds.net" Some of the images for these deleted materials appear in the Chronoplast as visions of alternative futures that might come to be."

There's also a GameSpot interview, which the subsequent paragraph details. The rest of the development section is fairly important, detailing the game's original concept, that concept's adaptation into the game, and the disolving relationship between the series' parent companies. The problem is finding sources for all this. A fansite says "Dennis Dyack has revealed..." except I can't find exactly where or when he said it. As I said on his talk page - if I can't find it on Google, I never will. Maybe Dyack said it in a magazine, I'll never know. See my problem? It just irritates me when primary sources offer nothing, secondary sources are limited and fansites are unreliable simply because they're fansites. The Clawed One (talk)


 * Well that's the thing, most of the deleted materials on thelostworlds does come with extracted audio and screenshots. For example, there was a scene cut where Raziel kills Ariel and absorbs her powe - the dialogue for this file is downloadable, and unless the guy is a crack audio editor, that's certainly the official voices. But it's hosted by a fansite, so from what I was told, it's out the door. Here, see for yourself: http://www.thelostworlds.net/SR1/The_Death_of_Ariel.html


 * I also contacted the site owner, to see if he knows of where else the information he provides can be found - hopefully he can point me in the right direction to a reliable coverage. The Clawed One (talk)


 * Unfortunately the only name I have is the one the fansite uses, and I have no idea how to source audio sources. The Clawed One (talk)


 * I'd seen the GIA article, but the IGN article sourcing them puts it in a new light. It gives GIA credibility, and gives me a secondary source of GIA isn't usable. Thanks! I'm also going to source thelostworlds for a section, but make a point of saying it's a temporary source while I track down who they're citing, because I am. The Clawed One (talk)


 * Just a FYI, I finally tracked down some reliable sources over "thelostworlds", and nominated the article for GA status. Wish me luck! The Clawed One (talk)

Re: Necrid
That's a great start, and I think you have all the refs to back it up; so I'm perfectly fine with it. If you ever decide the article is ready for FAC, then it will need some polishing, but it will do great for now. --haha169 (talk) 05:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

MK characters
I'm reverting the merging of the articles.. any particular reason you're combining the articles that you're doing? I'm not seeing any discussion on it... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Commented on your talk page. I know you say you dislike doing that, but it works out better for me to make sure things get seen.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 09:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Guilty Gear

 * On Guilty Gear? I don't really have an opinion, honestly - I'm fine either way. ^_^ JuJube (talk) 21:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion
It sounds like a good idea, but is there anything on his concept/creation? Cause I already knew about that stuff. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Anarchy Online
I am reviewing your article, Anarchy Online, for GA and have left some comments to the review page of the article. I may be adding more. Please feel free to contact me with questions or comments. Regards, &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 23:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So you are not going to take responsibility for it? If that is the case, I should just remove it from the nominations. It will fail anyway as no one will make the fixes. &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 23:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have contacted User:Sebquantic. If he does not respond soon I will delist the article. &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 00:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the mixup. I got in touch with Mattisse. --Sebquantic (talk) 02:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Report Me?
You say you'll report me if I move the Sakura and Ken articles again? You're the one ignoring the naming policy, not me. You reporting it will be enough to name the articles by their common name forever. If you remember, the agreement was to use the names frequently used in easy to see places - ie, Under health bars, on player select screens or versus screens etc - not names sometimes found in biographies, endings and the like. This isn't an agreement about whether or not to retain this information, but where in the article it is placed - and the title is the wrong place. Continue moving this articles to your preferred title names, and I'll involve other users. Mr.bonus (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon
Hello, what's this? :p Are you working on re-adding Pokémon pages to Wikipedia? If so, that's great! I just noticed that Mew and Mewtwo had their own pages (I've read some discussions since all the Pokémon except Pikachu were merged). - Jetro (talk) 01:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, I just saw that nicely-sourced Mewtwo article. Keep up the good work. Artichoker [ talk ]  16:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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Assessments
Just a note, wouldn't it be easier to put "Suggesting A-class" or something like that on the requests list, if you're going to keep Combine (Half-Life and List of StarCraft media on the list with that intent? -- Sabre (talk) 22:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Mario Clash
I've unmerged Mario Clash, feel free to clean it up. Hope it goes somewhere. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I know your busy
But I wanted to let you know that we are now at 49 GA's and FA's at Final Fantasy Wikiproject, and wouldn't it be great if someone put us over the top? :) All the best! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys
Hey, I'm working on a Deoxys article in my tempspace. (I got the idea for having one from you, so thanks.) I haven't done much on it yet, so I wondered if you wanted to help. Tezkag72 (talk) 19:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's an article now... Tezkag72 (talk) 16:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind again. I think it's barely notable, but still notable, that's why I created it. Way notable-r than Darkrai. I will admit I put it into the articlespace too soon, I have to find more sources that establish its notability. Guess I just got impatient. Well, bye. Tezkag72 (talk) 00:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

re:The pokemon articles
Yes, I believe that would be appropriate now, and would probably help remove a lot of in-universe information. The Pikachu article should be top priority. Artichoker [ talk ]  22:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice work with the templates. They look good. Artichoker [ talk ]  00:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Street Fighter IV artwork.
Quick question. How do you feel about using the character select artwork from Street Fighter IV for the infoboxes like this one? Or this? They're not as "inked" as the full body illustrations and they depict the main characters decently above waist. Jonny2x4 (talk) 05:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Mew and Mewtwo infoboxes
What infobox discussions? Is this on all the Pokémon articles? Tezkag72 (talk) 12:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Kenshiro and Raoh
Do you know for a fact that it is possible to fill those out with real world information, or is it just based on the fact that the series is fairly iconic in the manga industry? The funeral is definitely something to help establish notability, but its main purpose was to advertise the film and it obviously fits on the list. I can't really imagine that it even compares to an average sci-fi convention and the like, though. I know that sources are generally hard to find for Japanese characters, but it would be nice to have at least a base if I'm going to leave them alone. TTN (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sticking with my comparison, those are really the same kind of responses you'd get from any sort of convention. There were definitely people there for the character, but they really have as much impact on reception as comments from two hundred guys dressed up as Darth Vader. I looked on the Japanese article to see if they discussed any other impact of the characters, but the only thing was a slightly extended overview of the funeral (as far as I can tell with bad internet translations). An extremely cursory look over the three common google searches didn't reveal anything of interest either. I'm certainly not saying this is impossible like various other characters, but do you have any sort of idea of where you would look? TTN (talk) 18:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you planning to work on them or would you care if I just reverted to the merge until such a time? TTN (talk) 15:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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Standarizing the Street Fighter character articles
What do you think of the format I'm using for Gouken and Yun and Yang? I'm thinking of rewriting most of the Street Fighter character articles in this format (and probably other fighting game related articles) so that it covers conception and development (including an overview of appearances), backstory, techniques, other media appearances and everything else after that. Jonny2x4 (talk) 18:36, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

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"See also" is not needed
If you don't mind, myself and a few other editors do tend to feel that the "See also" section in an article is an unnecessary section for the most part, especially when it's just a category.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The "see also" was to a list page (LGBT characters in video games), not to a category. - jc37 16:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
I've decided to return to this article and try and get it through FAC once again. I've got a bunch of print sources off LexisNexis I can use to source bits here and there and expand out reception, but I've got nothing in terms of development info, and I'd think it needs at least another paragraph on the 1993 title. You know of any places we could look? Otherwise, my additions will need some cleanup to make all pretty-like, so any help is appreciated :) -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 18:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the issue is of course sourcing the censorship... as for the Nintendo Power article, do you think you could get it? I'm not sure InterLibraryLoan will particularly help me for a game magazine, but if you have the citation at least I can always try. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 19:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, useful or not I'm sure there's some scraps that can be gleaned :P Send me the link when you've done it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 19:35, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I got it. There are some bits that can be used, so I'll get about integrating them later. Can you give me the citation info for the issue? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 20:49, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Penny Arcade
Like the various other video game web comics, they have covered hundreds upon hundreds of different video games and related topics. I don't know if there has been any sort of specific discussion on it, but I'm certain that most people would agree that it would be undue weight to include such details in every one of those articles. TTN (talk) 22:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Were it something like Krakow, I'd agree with you. However given the individuals have been interviewed and featured in gaming magazines and have their own commercial games distributed through XBL last I checked, I'm more inclined to think they have a bit more weight.


 * In addition, while butchered, that particular strip was also in a magazine. However at this time I can't recall if it was PSM or not, and google isn't helping.


 * If you don't feel they should be considered a source for notability and reception TTN and think everyone would agree with you, hit up the vg project discussion. Best route to go.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:57, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Half-Life characters
Just in case this is indicative of further deletions, can I ask you to refrain from trying to AfD any other HL characters? Whilst an utter mess at present, they are a surmountable problem. A number of editors are slowly working through cleaning up the Half-Life series, and as was the case with Locations of Half-Life, a merged character article is in the works, a'la Characters of StarCraft, Characters of Halo, etc. It tends to be useful to have the edit histories to work with when merging, so it would be helpful if they aren't deleted. -- Sabre (talk) 15:19, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

About Image:Morrigan(Darkstalkers).png
I can't really remember what the policy is on PNG vs JPG, but compared to the original jpg, the file size of the PNG version is 4 times larger, and it's pretty much unaltered; the artifacts are still there. The source website seems to the down, too. - Zero1328 Talk? 09:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Chronological list of Famicom games, 1989-1994
Normally, I would template you about the AFD notification, but I don't think that's very necessary, judging from looking at WT:VG. See Articles for deletion/Chronological list of Famicom games, 1989-1994. MuZemike ( talk ) 02:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Gradius III
I'm sort of lost as to why a less recognizable image, a Japanese image, is better than the most recognizable image for the majority of the English-speaking world. The SNES version is the only version North America and PAL regions ever got, so why shouldn't we use it? And why shouldn't the article be about the most well-known version? - A Link to the Past (talk)
 * There's no question about the recognizability of the arcade Centipede, but for many people, they have no idea that there is an arcade version. To all English regions, the SNES version is the only version, and the article should use the SNES image. And as for consistency, there's no consistency rule, which is why having mostly ESRB-rated boxarts doesn't mean other related articles have to use the ESRB-rated boxarts. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Ciel
Could you please amplify on your comment that the article on Ciel grossly violated Notability? In addition, you didn't actually MERGE the article, though no consensus was reached in any case, you merely deleted and redirected with no transferring of information whatsoever. I look forward to your reasoning. Oh, and I restored the article, if you feel it should be deleted or merged, bring it up in the proper forum please. Thanks! ^_^ Nezu Chiza (talk) 05:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Err...I'm not sure I understand what you mean by saying I posted the same thing in every Fate AFD. As far as I can recall, I haven't ever commented on AFD's for them, so I'm a bit confused as to who exactly you think I am. Also, per your arguments that the Fate characters have no third party references, feel free to nominate all Street Fighter, Tekken, Guilty Gear, and all other fighting game genre articles. While the existence of an article shouldn't be used as rational for another article being kept, there's certainly nothing wrong with pointing out that other, more well known series are as bad or worse on sources, YET ARE STILL HERE. Perhaps they should be removed. Nezu Chiza (talk) 17:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If crappy articles will and should be dealt with, why is it a bad idea to deal with them? Your reasoning is confusing in that you make the former claim, then toss out the latter, contradicting yourself. If the articles I pointed out need to be worked on...what's the problem? I was merely suggesting more work for you since you're concerned with article quality. Whether they're dealt with now, later, singly, or all at once shouldn't come into the discussion, should it? The fact remains that they do need to be dealt with, and I feel you're the man for the job. Nezu Chiza (talk) 18:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Tsukihime characters
Greetings,

I understand your opinions about the Tsukihime characters being merged, but since you said they failed WP:N grossly, if I restored the articles and somehow fixed it, would they be fine? I'm also a fan of the series myself, and I don't want some characters article to be deleted. And it's not like I'm trying to save some of my images or something. About the Fate/Stay Night characters, there are some characters with a small role but they do have articles, I'm glad that you have fix it.

Sorry if my English skill is bad, and thank you! OgasawaraSachiko (talk) 11:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Eh, if you don't mind, I've just restored the article of Akiha Tohno as I believe she is one of the main heroin in Tsukihime. If it doesn't suit you, please clean it up if you want to. OgasawaraSachiko (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Carmelita Fox
Please note that the character does get a number of references on Google News, which I have begun adding to the article. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 17:44, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Fate/stay night, Tsukihime characters
Hey, thanks on the withdrawal of Saber (Fate/stay night) from the AfD. Per my comments there, the only other characters that really assert notability are Shirō Emiya, Archer (Fate/stay night) and Rin Tōsaka, so feel free to AfD the rest. As for the Tsukihime characters, Shiki Tohno and Arcueid Brunestud are the only ones that really assert notability (see, , , , , ), so the rest can be AfD'd if you want (a merge to List of Tsukihime characters is probably what will result). Cheers, — sephiroth bcr  ( converse ) 10:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Talim
Just stopping by to leave a quick note because I know you are a regular contributor. It appears that you are engaged in a edit war on Talim. I ask that you take your concerns to the articles talk page, or report disruptive users instead of continually reverting them. Happy editing. Tiptoety talk 23:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, looking into the history of the other user it is clear he is the more disruptive party. I have left him a warning, and any further disruption or edit warring will be met with a block. Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 00:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (November 2008)

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Ultima characters
Hey, I just noticed you put Minax (Ultima) up for deletion. I spent some time a while back cleaning up some Ultima characters—if you're interested, there's a big job with The Companions of the Avatar, List of Ultima characters, and List of characters based on developers in Ultima series that need some attention, and potenially Avatar (Ultima) as well. Let me know if you feel like working on it and maybe we can tackle it together. At a bare minimum, the list based on developers needs to be merged into a character list (and referenced if possible), but the current structure of these articles needs to be rethought. List of Ultima characters is really just a couple of tables.  Pagra shtak  15:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Why you merged Lilith from Darkstalkers to the minor characters article? I don't think she's a minor character, since she appeared in almost every Darkstalkers games and others from Capcom. I would leave Morrigan, Lilith, Demitri, Hsien-Ko, Felicia and Baby Bonnie Hood because they are the only prominent characters that appeared in other media, such as anime, manga an videogames, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.139.122.85 (talk) 19:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Small review on "Scribblenauts"?
Could you provide a small review on Scribblenauts' quality? - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah, you gave plenty of help. Unfortunately, we've only got the IGN interview for information so far, and the information in the article is limited to what was in that interview. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of your own material
The template is. Cheers, Wily D 15:49, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Me and User:New Age Retro Hippie were wondering how this came to be rated as an A-class article, considering that there's no recorded A-class review on the talk page. I decided to delay the demotion until I've heard what you have to say about it, in case there has been some sort of misunderstanding. Cheers. Ashnard Talk  Contribs  20:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

It's that Time!
Time to take a moment, and nominate Final Fantasy Legend, which has long been at GA level, for formal GA status to complete the 2008 Final Fantasy 50 FA/FL/GA drive! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but many articles will have been promoted in the drive, and the few that fall can be redone later in another drive. More to the point, you promised you would, and the article is much closer to FA than GA, so all you really have to do is stop blocking me efforts to nominate it for GA. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Soul series discography
Do you still plan on putting that together? Otherwise, I'll probably merge them into the game articles at some point. TTN (talk) 01:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Cat question
I'm not sure what the criterion on that is. The Shadow is categorized per all his appearances, but Mew is not (pending this discussion it seems). Think it's a case of consensus? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Oro (Street Fighter III)

 * Having a bit of a problem here. Too tired to deal with it myself. o.o JuJube (talk) 01:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Alternate titles, and columns in Lists of articles
I noticed that you are a big contributor in the "List of Famicom games", and I'd like to invite you to contribute to the Talk:List of Nintendo 64 games where we are discussing the use of keeping alternate titles in the "List of...games" some have suggested that they take up too much space and that other columns could seem to be "useful only to fans", and other things that have been mentioned that, and other 'List of' talk pages. I know you might be watching the page and seen how I mention this on the Famicom list page, but I hope you'll come and give you opinion, and hopefully keep these type of concerns from arising again and again at each "List of" pages. (Floppydog66 (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC))

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Wikia articles
Articles on other wikis are usually more in-depth as Wikipedia's policies are against "fancruft" and overly long plot summaries. It's the same with the Street Fighter Wiki. Some of the character articles are small here on Wikipedia because the info that could be added shouldn't be as it's too "fancruft-y", so the Street Fighter Wiki is the best place for all this information as that wiki will hold as much info as possible about the series. But you are right about the advertising; the main reason why I'm adding the links is so that more people will come to the Street Fighter wiki, and the best place to do this is on Wikipedia where people already know wiki-code, making them the best users to attract. However, I am using Template:Wikia as it is supposed to be used.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 21:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Editing Reptile
Hi, KFM, don't mean to bother you but I noticed that you've made 31 consecutive edits in the Reptile article. If you're not doing so already, you might want to start using the preview button and do everything in one fell swoop (or two) rather than performing dozens of niggling edits and therefore jumbling the edit history. Also, I greatly appreciate that you're trying your darndest to improve the article, but you're going overboard a little by overhauling the sections/subsections and padding them with numerous odds and ends to the already sufficient content that you'd added earlier prior to all your recent edits. By no means am I blowing off your work, but in the end it's a fictional video game character and not a historical figure or event. sixty nine  • spill it •  00:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)Rep
 * It's me again (argh!); just dropping in to tell you that whenever I edit any content in the Reptile (or other MK character) article, my wordy descriptions in the edit summary are not intended as a means to pick on you. sixty nine   • spill it •  08:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

you could be a little nicer than saying "my ass". I didn't say anything about fancruft and I can't help it if the tag is called such. You don't own the article, so check your ego. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.109.253.178 (talk) 22:50, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Nice work with the Reptile article Kung fu man. I didnt know there was so much conception of the characters. I guess this will be a good example for the other MK characters.Tintor2 (talk) 12:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

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AfD humor
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Astaroth
Hello. I have a question. As far as I remember was Astaroth's height written was 6'4". Do you know why they changed it to 202cm (6'8")? Big King (talk) 21:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this information. Well, can you please tell me what characters from Street Fighter have different heights now? Big King (talk) 01:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

ASINs (some general notes)
Hi. I note you reinserted a couple of ASIN codes on Reptile (Mortal Kombat). I'm not sure who told you they were useful, but I fear there may have been a misunderstanding somewhere along the line.

The ASIN code is solely an internal catalogue identifier used by Amazon, and exists only on their website and a few sites that pull data from them. It does sort of confirm the book/DVD/CD exists, but not in a very helpful way - it confirms that Amazon have or had a sales listing for an item, but not that that has ever been checked. I certainly know of cases where Amazon have listed books that were never published, or with vastly inaccurate publication details, in their system - I wouldn't be surprised if this applies to DVDs as well. In any case, you'd have to input the ASIN to the Amazon db to get the result, and you'd get just as easy a response putting the title and other details in! So it doesn't really bring much benefit to keep it.

The main problem with using ASINs is that... well, they're proprietary. We wouldn't accept a link to a single specific commercial sales site to confirm that something exists, so why do we give a reference identifier which is only usable with that one retailer? It has some slightly worrying neutrality implications, when you think about it...

Hope this explains why I removed them! Shimgray | talk | 23:41, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. If you're wanting a non-ISBN identifier for a book, then you can get a unique edition identifier (ie, equivalent to an ISBN) by using a LCCN or an OCLC number, both of which are handily retailer-independent - but remembering the full publisher and date is definitely more important! Shimgray | talk | 23:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem, KFM. I probably should have done that before axing the picture, but often I've seen non-fair use pictures disposed of fairly quickly by established editors. After I explained earlier this afternoon in the edit summary why the pic was removed, Tinton (sp?) reverted it a short time later with a cryptic comment saying "That's from the TV series." I asked him what it meant, but never heard back and I didn't want to get into a Ping-Pong match with him over the image and risk an edit war. Sorry for any confusion. (On an OT note, I didn't know we had the option of including DVD caps in articles.) sixty nine   • spill it •  04:55, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sweet. Thanks for the link; I've stored it on my userpage. I'm not ashamed to admit that I still have my VHS (what's that?) copy of MK:A since it first came out, simply because it's the ultimate "background noise" movie. Heh. sixty nine   • spill it •  05:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I have to say, the Rep page looks good, but I'm sure at some point you went cross-eyed hunting down so many sources. :-) If you don't mind me asking, did you do a load of Google/Yahoo searches or already own the books and comics quoted therein? Thanks. sixty nine   • spill it •  22:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Let me show you my pokemans
I don't know if you saw it, but I responded on my talk page. Pokemans. ~ JohnnyMrNinja  09:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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Poison Final Fight
How is it vandalism when he's a moderator of the OFFICAL SITE for the company that's making the game who's had physical words with the creators themselves and if it was untrue I believe Capcom themselves would have taken it down. Just because he's not staff dosen't mean he hasn't talk to them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.225.161 (talk) 07:15, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a Trap is something that most fans use to refer to characters that are of a single gender, but appear to be of another one mainly Bridget of guilty gear fame and Poison. That's POV right there with the whole "The controversy is pretty much the reason it's popular as a character" A. it's a dude in japan and B.I like the character because s/he(depending on region and to be sensitive to transsexuals at the same time) Hugo's manger-67.180.225.161 (talk) 07:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Stop re-adding inaccurate references to the Final Fantasy Legend article
I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but your referenced translation is not accurate. Referencing inaccurate material defeats the entire purpose of referencing information to begin with. Do you understand how these guidelines work? Citations are necessary in order to establish known facts about something -- not speculations or editor opinions. (for instance, with translations -- referencing a third-party translation does not make this translation an official fact) I will thank you not to keep putting it back. Alternatively, you could try a dictionary translation or professional translation service, though I don't see the necessity of referencing such material anyway. 74.242.123.2 (talk) 22:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind, I'm going to keep this discuss here on your talk page, since I'm behind a dynamic IP. (when my PPPoE connection resets, the discussion will no longer be available to me)


 * I've looked over the reference you added, but it's not official. The album was never released outside of Japan, and thus the title is in Japanese. The website offering the soundtrack adds their own translation of the album's contents. This is by now means official. Even if this were the official album translation, I really don't see how this reflects on the game, which is already in English under a different title. The purpose of adding a translation of the Japanese title is to present a literal model of what's listed there -- not an interpretation or "loose" translation, as you would call it. I'm sure you can understand where I'm getting with this. 74.242.123.2 (talk) 22:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, I'll trust that the official album (and to note, the same title used on the smaller selections on other albums from the title) lot more readily, thank you. Look at the talk page: there are several "proposed" translations for that article. So there isn't something people are absolutely agreeing on for fan translations.
 * I've been around this book five, six times now, always by anon IPs. The VG project finds the source reliable, the guy in charge of the project's official Source handling noted it was reliable, that's more than enough for the page. I'm really not interested in arguing this further. Unless you bring up a source from Squaresoft/Square Enix that says differently I think we're done here. Further prods at the page will just result in me pushing for protection for it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * But your reference isn't accurate, or official. That's a problem. You can't pull up a random webpage and call it infalliable.


 * Let me help you with this.


 * 魔界塔士


 * Okay, you have 塔 and 士 which are "toushi" in romaji. 塔 tou means tower, and 士 shi means warrior, so together they make "tower warrior." (or warrior(s), but plurality is not always made clear in Japanese, so that doesn't matter here) Now we have 魔界 makai, which is the Japanese world for Hell, or the world of demons. So overall we have "tower warrior (of) Hell." (or you can also say "Hell tower warrior") You can add "of" and "of the" if you like, since those don't necessarily have to be elaborated upon in Japanese here. (and would probably be added in professional translations, for instance)


 * Hope that helps. That is your best bet for an accurate translation. 74.242.123.2 (talk) 23:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you ever paying attention? The resource is considered a primary source. It means from the people, company, and so forth behind a game. It's official. It's stated to be official. If it's not accurate to one's translation of Japanese that's how the cookie crumbles: the rules state to cite an official translation, even if inaccurate, over a fan translation (which, no offense meant again, what you're doing here is). Even you're not certain of the exact translation of the text, you're simply offering your own idea based on literal translations of the symbols on what it should be.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not a primary source. The website isn't affiliated with the company in any manner at all. You should know this. My translation is an extrapolation from my native-level Japanese that's more accurate than the one you provided. I regularly tend to the Japanese version of this page and similar pages on the SaGa series. I'm hoping to help with some of the content here, since this is a Japanese video game.


 * Please go here Requests_for_mediation and start a new case based on this article. (you can list my IP as my username when creating the case, if you want) This will allow an administrator to take a look at the article and decide which is better. We can both bring the discussion over to there and make it a lot easier. Be sure to post the link to the request here so I can get back to it. Thanks.


 * Also, why did you leave an AGF comment on my talk page? I'm trying to help you get the article together. o_0 74.242.123.2 (talk) 23:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see a point making a big fuss about it, everything gets out of hand if you want to be psychoanalytical about it. I simply feel a more accurate translation is the better choice. 97.84.167.97 (talk) 00:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Please start the mediation request page as I requested above, if you don't mind. 74.242.123.2 (talk) 00:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I reverted his edits for now. Let me know if this becomes a problem.97.84.167.97 (talk) 00:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Kung Fu Man, stop making a big deal out of this.76.7.36.218 (talk) 00:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (December 2008)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  22:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Minsc
Hey there! I notice you've been hard at work improving Minsc, which is a good thing. Some of us have been working on improving Drizzt Do'Urden in a similar manner.

I'm curious about Minsc though, as he's the only BG character that still has a separate article. What is it about him that makes him so special? ;) Seriously though, he gets a lot of hits every month. I've been watching that article, and it got 3288 in November, and 4381 in December, and he's already got 1324 so far this month. That definitely seems to be on the high side for a fictional character.

So what is it about him that makes him get so many hits, and makes him worthy of his own article when the others don't currently have one? I'm not advocating him to not have his own article, especially with the improvements you have been making, I'm just trying to assess the potential for characters like him. Should more of them have their own articles again, if you are able to improve them with reliable sources as well? I'm not familiar with the game, so I have no clue which characters are important. BOZ (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Was just curious... :) BOZ (talk) 05:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the response! :) If you want to unmerge any other characters with good sources at some point, or take any D&D-related characters to GAN (Drizzt has now been nominated), or need any help or advice on anything or have any of your own to give, just stop on by the D&D project talk page. :) BOZ (talk) 13:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

You should find your answer here. :) BOZ (talk) 01:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Jennifer Hale on Samus Aran voice acting
Okay thanks. Does Samus even have any speaking parts in the Prime series? I've played the games but don't recall that, as I thought she was just like any other typical non-speaking hero like Master Chief, Link (The Legend of Zelda), etc. where the most that is said are grunting noises. Gary King ( talk ) 16:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This might interest you: Talk:Samus_Aran Gary King  ( talk ) 03:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Sheng Long and SM64 DS
Sure I can give Sheng Long a copy edit. You may want another editor to give it a second one to further improve the prose. I'm alright at grammar and general editing, but writing brilliant prose is still something that's difficult for me.

I've also rewrote the "Plot" section to Super Mario 64 DS, let me know if you have any other suggestions. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Copy edit done. I mainly tried to trim redundancy and give more context to the general reader. A few places raised questions in my head, but I wasn't sure what do with the text.
 * "Unblockable" sounds like gaming jargon, but I wasn't sure how to reword it without just removing it.
 * Who is Seth Killian and what does he do for Capcom?
 * "...including a jab from 1UP.com", what did they say and why was it a jab?
 * I recommend another pair of eyes giving it another sweep. Maybe User:David Fuchs or User:Gary King. They both write quality prose and have been very successful at FAC. (Guyinblack25 talk 23:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC))

Hi Kung Fu Man!
Hi, I'm not really used to talking and everything on Wiki since this is new for me, but you seem like a fun Wiki contributor. Bye now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonwhisker123 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Multiple FAC noms
Per the WP:FAC instructions, please nominate only one article at a time; once the first article is archived or promoted, you may add the second. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 02:39, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Dystopia (video game) rating
Thanks for rating the article and for the pointers on what to improve. Just a question about "The biggest issue the article has right now is that every citation is primary", do you mean because that all the citations go to the mods website? KindredPhantom (talk) 21:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Street Fighter the Later Years

 * I've been on a Wikibreak, and didn't notice it there, or I would have removed it - a year or so ago some yahoo tried to say that The Later Years was notable. Its popularity is not even on the level of Yu-Gi-Oh The Abridged Series and we all know that series' fate on Wikipedia.  My apologies. JuJube (talk) 02:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (January 2009)

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About Reptile
 And really sorry for my english =) --193.242.114.164 (talk) 17:09, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Crystalis
After having just nominated Duck Hunt for GAR and watching a YouTube playthrough of Crystalis, I don't think this meets GA criteria either (Even though I love this game very much). What do you think? MuZemike 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Eggman's Creations
Can I have your input on [|This issue], please? It would be useful to have that section in for some changes I would like to make. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.182.210 (talk) 02:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Peer Review
I wrote a Peer Review for Reptile, here. I'm sorry, I forgot to post a message on your talk page. I hope you find my comments helpful. Cheers, -- Noj r (talk) 06:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Because your talk page has enough section headings, I'm posting in this somewhat related section instead. :-p
 * Finished my comments at Peer review/Reptile (Mortal Kombat)/archive1. Hope they help. (Guyinblack25 talk 22:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC))

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Super Mario Kart
An outside admin reverted the A-Class assessment to Super Mario Kart because there wasn't any visible review on the talk page, citing Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/A-Class criteria. MuZemike 13:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Terry Bogard
Do you know of conception info of this character? I have been working in this article, but I couldnt find any. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Mario
Well, it should link to the Mario theme article, and maybe discuss it a little more. And in the creation section, what does "Miyamoto developed Mario's in mind"? Is that just a typo? And maybe there could be a subsection in Appearances for his roles in other media?

Just some quick suggestions there. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 19:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (February 2009)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  00:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Assessment requests
Hey Kung Fu Man, how's it going? I noticed your A-class nomination of Super Mario Bros. 3. Should we go through the backlog of A-class requests on the assessments page and formally nominate the rest of them?

P.S. Have you considered archiving your talk page? Took me forever to load (third-world dial-up—so sad!). — Levi van Tine (t – c)  06:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Nintendo task force membership update
I am currently gauging the active membership of the Nintendo task force. I have split the members list into an "active list" and an "inactive list" and have moved all members (except myself) to the "inactive list". To confirm that you're still an active participant in the task force, please go to the membership list at WP:NIN and simply move your name from the "inactive list" back onto the "active list". If you no longer wish to be a member, simply remove your name from the list. After two weeks (around 23 March 2009), I will remove all names on the inactive list. Thank you, and hope you're still interested, MuZemike 20:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Greg Horn
About Greg we cannot use his Marvel arts because we don't have permission from Marvel itself. The characters belongs to Marvel not Greg. But if Marvel allows us to use it's images we can use Greg's artworks because he agreed too. And all permissions you got you must redirect you conversations emails about it to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. And contact someone who is an OTRS volunteer to check it. Mizunoryu 大熊猫❤小熊猫 (talk) 02:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

United Kingdom eSports Association
Thank you for assessing the article (UKeSA). I would like a little more information regarding on how improve the article. It says on the Quality Scale (Start-class) that:


 * "An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete and, most notably, lacks adequate reliable sources."

What would be an adequate reliable source and would it be possible to give an example as to the weak points in the article? Ryoga3099 (talk) 20:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Dead or Alive character pages
I see you have deleted all but three of the separate Dead or Alive character pages a couple of months ago. May I ask why exactly? In the edit history you state WP:N as the reason, but what makes the DoA characters any less notable that those of Mortal Kombat for example? I agree that not all articles were of equal quality, but some of the recurring characters like Hayate or Ayane have deep storylines which are barely explained in the short character blurb that remains in the list. In fact Hayate's background is not explained at all! I really feel at least some separate articles should be brought back. - Arnizipal (talk) 08:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)