User talk:Kurgans r us

August 2021
Hello, I'm Austronesier. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Western Steppe Herders, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 16:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I didn't leave a reliable source yet you literally lied about what fatyanovo study said I'm looking at it right now, Kurgans r us (talk) 16:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Idk what game your playing it literally says a third of the samples were blonde hair and blue eyed in the study your using on fatyanovo, it literally says 21 percent blonde hair Kurgans r us (talk) 16:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Please show me where this fatyanovo study says 4 percent blonde, the literally quote "about a third of the samples have blue eyes and/or blonde hair, so how would 4 percent and 21 Kurgans r us (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Look at the study " vitamin d and skin color and update" it has Harvard phenotype, Kurgans r us (talk) 16:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/4/eabd6535 Tewdar (talk) 16:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/exd.14142 Kurgans r us (talk) 16:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Western Steppe Herders, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 16:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The skin colour and vitamin D paper links to "The genomic history of southeastern Europe", which does not support the claim you are trying to make. Tewdar (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.02.184507v1.full Kurgans r us (talk) 16:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Are you crazy the second link is it, that is literally the name of the article, the first one is your article, and the third is the same article yet both of these articles state different information yet it's the same article Kurgans r us (talk) 16:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Yep. Take a look at table 2. But not the preprint. Here: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/4/eabd6535 Tewdar (talk) 16:46, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok I figured it out this is two different sets of fatyanovo individuals the first one is your study yes 4 percent blonde, the third study is also fatyanovo 21 percent blonde Kurgans r us (talk) 16:46, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

The skin color paper literally has a pic that shows all the phenotype and says blonde next to yamnya yes it does Kurgans r us (talk) 16:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, I did originally quote "around a third were blond/blue eyed, but then I just took the info from the table. Tewdar (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The skin colour paper is fucking shit. Tewdar (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

The exact same table 2 in my third link of fatyanovo says 21 percent blonde Kurgans r us (talk) 16:49, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.02.184507v1 this is literally the same paper table 2 is different says 21 percent blonde, Harvard university is not shit, I knew you were biased Kurgans r us (talk) 16:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Which picture? Please be specific. Tewdar (talk) 16:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, what is your "third link"? Tewdar (talk) 16:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

You mean https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.02.184507v1 ? PREPRINTS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE. Tewdar (talk) 16:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * That is why we don't accept preprints, because they often contain mistakes. Tewdar (talk) 16:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The preprint gave the wrong numbers. The preprint cannot be used as a source. Tewdar (talk) 16:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

If you don't except preprints or if that's what this link is why did I get it directly from Wikipedia fatyanovo Kurgans r us (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Where is the source that shows Yamnaya with KITLG SNP rs12821256? Where is it? Tewdar (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Whoever edits Wikipedia Fatyanovo obviously does not have the awesome editing powers of the almighty Tewdar. Tewdar (talk) 17:03, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24433901_Ancient_DNA_provides_new_insights_into_the_history_of_South_Siberian_Kurgan_people this is androvono, I already sent you Kurgans r us (talk) 17:06, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/exd.14142 did you read down to the phenotype section Kurgans r us (talk) 17:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Andronovo != Yamnaya != WSH. I am very bored talking about how "blond" the various steppe-derived (NOT WSH proper, nb) cultures are, we already talk about Fatyanovo, but if it will shut you up I will add "Andronovo were x% blond" to the article. Tewdar (talk) 17:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The picture cannot be used as a source. Also, the paper has misquoted their source. Mathieson et el say no such thing. The article already quotes what they really do say. Tewdar (talk) 17:14, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * "An allele associated with blond hair in Europeans, first found in an individual from central Asia, is found in three Eastern Hunter-Gatherers from Samara, Motala and Ukraine, and several later individuals with WSH ancestry." Tewdar (talk) 17:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Bro your just full of excuses it's definitely a real source, what about this one https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6790770/ battle axe culture, I get you think your so smart cuz fatyanovo study changed way after a year I mean that's a big mistake to make, even when brown pundits went over fatyanovo doing the snp himself he seemed to agree back then Kurgans r us (talk) 17:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Scandinavian Battle Axe Culture != WSH. Do you even know what WSH refers to? Not Corded Ware, not Fatyanovo, not Beaker folk, not Sintashta. Not even Late Yamnaya... Tewdar (talk) 17:20, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Funny I just checked it definitely doesn't link to genomic history of south eastern Europe it links to Reich lab, I know you think you can get away with lying just cuz the fatyanovo study changed over a year later and Wikipedia itself never changed it but you can't Kurgans r us (talk) 17:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * "Interestingly, ancient North Eurasian derived populations, such as eastern hunter-gatherers and Yamnayas, carried the blond hair allele rs12821256 of the KITLG gene to Europe.[66]" - 66 means "The genomic history of southeastern Europe" Tewdar (talk) 17:25, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Then why are you writing about fatyanovo in the western steppe Herder if they not western steppe Herder, western steppe Herder is a fusion of eastern European hunter gatherers and caucus hunter gatherers, starting around 5000 bc, which eastern hunter gatherers have been found with blonde hair and caucus hunter gatherers the oldest blue eyes ever were found Kurgans r us (talk) 17:25, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * They are derived or ancestral groups, which deserve a passing mention in the article. Tewdar (talk) 17:29, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Actually genetic history of south eastern Europe does say that they found blonde yamnya, maybe not before but it does now must of changed it... 😂, Interesting though the yamnya in this study have a small amount of Anatolian farmers admixture already Kurgans r us (talk) 17:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

So, contemporary knowledge is as follows: blonde allele found in ANE. Found later in EHG. Found even later in groups with steppe ancestry. Therefore WSH probably a vector for this allele. EXACTLY WHAT THE ARTICLE STATES. Tewdar (talk) 17:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Show me Yamnaya with allele rs12821256 of the KITLG gene, and I will add it to the article. Tewdar (talk) 17:32, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh but androvono, sintashta and battle axe don't qualify only the ones that fit your agenda, not like androvono brought Indo Iranian language to south Asia or anything Kurgans r us (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I literally already did multiple times, why won't you add androvono culture or battle axe culture or Kurgans r us (talk) 17:36, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Where did you show me a Yamnaya or WSH individual with rs12821256 SNP? Also, this article is about WSH, not Andronovo or Battle Axe. Tewdar (talk) 17:40, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7817100/#__ffn_sectitle funny how this is 2021 so after the change same paper on fatyanovo and still says 33 percent blonde hair and blue eyes Kurgans r us (talk) 17:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Even so, we still have *too much* info already about how blond the various WSH ancestry cultures have. It's really not very interesting. Tewdar (talk) 17:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

If you can mention fatyanovo no reason to not mention battle axe, literally the same thing Kurgans r us (talk) 17:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I think they mean to say around a quarter were blond and/or blue eyed. But the table gives a breakdown and is more specific. Tewdar (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Maybe your right about that, but I just don't understand the deal with this paper and why even this version kept the original data published in 2021 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7817100/#__ffn_sectitle but whatever do what you want I don't care anyway about blonde I care about people admiting they related to modern Europeans cuz so many people on tic TOC, redit and Facebook, modern Iranian, modern india and even afghans and Turks try to claim they are closet population to yamnya Kurgans r us (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I think the page summarizes contemporary scholarship, so I can sleep easy tonight. Tewdar (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I added the information from the following table to the article:

https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fnature14507/MediaObjects/41586_2015_BFnature14507_MOESM145_ESM.xlsx

I do not have an "agenda", apart from adding reliably-sourced information to Wikipedia. Tewdar (talk) 09:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

It's weird though this fatyanovo study, the supplement tables show fatyanovo to have slc245 and slc24a2 and the authors literally said the sentence "about a third of the fatyanovo samples have blue eyes and or blonde hair" and the other groups in table 2 were already published 3 years ago and show evidence of the original table being accurate, how did they get Estonian corded ware wrong in the published version? According to table 2 fatyanovo they went from 14 percent blonde to zero, last according to table 2 fatyanovo is like 43 percent as dark as cheddar Man which makes no sense with every single other paper ever published, according to table 2 even middle ages Estonia was intermediate and dark skin yet we have plenty of art drawn by people who lived back then that says otherwise, out of all the data on western steppe Herder table 2 of fatyanovo study is the one you use despite it doesn't match with other studies and doesn't even match what the authors said right above it Kurgans r us (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I meant to say that Estonian corded ware was 14 percent blonde even in published version, and was in fatyanovo pre print but now is down to zero? And according to table 2 they were just as dark as western hunter gatherers, which makes no sense with every other study published, they plugged in the snps the exact same way brown pundits did and he agreed with original table, a man obsessed with dark skin and features, and the skin color study specific said they downloaded the data from Reich lab and plugged in the snp themselves using the same system in fatyanovo study and curious they got that some yamnya was blonde, so clearly these tables should be taken with a grain of salt it's a prediction, and last they assuming only the kitlg gene leads to blonde yet only about a third of Scandinavians have kitlg but a lot more have light hair, you say it's not interesting but this is literally the phenotype section, but like I said I don't care I'm not going to touch it ever again Kurgans r us (talk) 10:21, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh I just read the change I like it sorry for being a pain in the ass Kurgans r us (talk) 10:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

And the other sections of western steppe Herder are spot on according to what I have read, so I don't mean to come off like I'm attacking you Kurgans r us (talk) 10:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I had to remove the summary of Allentoft's table, as its inclusion would require too much interpretation on our part (as your comment above probably demonstrates). Unless a source summarizes, in prose, the table contents, then it cannot be included here. I try my best to include the state-of-the-art, but Wikipedia by design restricts what we can write here. Tewdar (talk) 12:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Feel free to be a pain in the ass or edit the article as much as you want. Just try and find reliable, preferably secondary, sources for everything, and try not to revert changes too often or someone might ban you. Tewdar (talk) 12:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Yea makes sense to remove it, it basically applies to any table Kurgans r us (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

https://humanjourney.us/genetics-and-human-evolution/ hey do you also edit androvono page? I don't want to change anything without talking to someone who does it, I feel like the 2009 data isn't enough to probably convince many people, and other than various blogs from both ends of the Indo European debate it's hard to find peer reviewed data on exactly what these people look like, is this a realiable source? I'm not really sure, if you go down far enough it mentioned androvono Kurgans r us (talk) 20:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2021/05/18/all-the-yamnaya-horizon-zone-people-looked-the-same/ hey this has nothing to do with changing anything I just want to show you something, this is Razib Khan, well known blogger, clearly not in favor of light featured steppe, you see here it's may 2021 so after the fatyanovo study was published, he ran hirisplex which he does a lot, look at the massively different numbers he got from saag, 99 percent derived at a5 and over 60 percent at a2 and 50 percent derived at blue eyed gene, the middle east is very low in a2 much Lower than 60 something yet many have intermediate and light skin, and south middle east is t even fully derived at a5, India is extremely low in a2 and is intermediate at a5 and neither is over 10 percent derived at hercz Kurgans r us (talk) 10:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

I meant parts of middle east are not fully derived at a5 and extremely low in a2, Kurgans r us (talk) 10:31, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2012/08/28/not-all-genes-are-created-the-same/

Here is Khan again although much older here is says if you not homogeneous for blue eyed gene but still have one copy it makes green eyes, not just still brown, yet hirisplex prediction makes you brown still unless you have homogeneous derived, every single study ignores green eyes despite the fact they also exsist and Chinese historians describe the wusun a decendent of sintashta and androvono as "green eyed" and art from tarim basin shows a lot of green eyes in the art, the study on kiltg from 2014 says only 20 percent of Scandinavia has the kiltg gene derived and if you look up a2 and hercz it says they also affect hair pigment to some degree, hence why blue eyes and blonde hair come together often Kurgans r us (talk) 10:40, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

And none of this is to change anything here just for some context, but on top of the past figures from Khan I gave you, modern south Asia ethnic groups such as, kalash, nuristani, pashtun, tajiks, have a higher amount of green eyes then blue eyes and have a very high percent for south Asia in general, also about a third of nuristani and kalash have blonde or dirty blonde hair and a decent percent maybe 2 percent have red hair, whitch is a full percent higher than the numbers for sintashta as only 4 of 100 samples had red hair, how does any of this make sense in the context of table 2 Kurgans r us (talk) 11:11, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

And btw the correlation here is that these groups have the highest steppe admixture autosomal of all south Asia, and even then is only 30 percent, so at just 30 percent steppe and basically absent of any kiltg gene derived these people show light hair, skin and eyes in elevated percent in comparison to the rest of south Asia Kurgans r us (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * There are a number of genes responsible for determining melanin quantity/type in hair, not just KIT ligand. This is also true for pigmentation in general. Your first link might possibly be (just about) acceptable as a source - why not try adding it, with an inline citation, to the Andronovo article? BTW, it's probably better to leave a message on my talk page if you want to communicate - I don't generally stalk other talk pages... Tewdar (talk) 14:02, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Here, this article isn't too bad: https://www.gwern.net/docs/genetics/heritable/2019-pavan.pdf Tewdar (talk) 14:11, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The Andronovo article already summarizes Keyser et al. (2009) though. The article probably wouldn't really gain much from the link you posted, especially since it doesn't cite the source. Tewdar (talk) 14:23, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4704868/

Yes multiple genes but hirisplex prediction is based on kiltg alone for blonde hair, and here in this 2014 study you can see the incredible low frequency in modern northern Europeans no higher than even yamnya Kurgans r us (talk) 14:45, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

And according to hirisplex prediction east Asians who show large variation of skin color would all be dark to black cuz they have a very tiny frequency of both major light alleles Kurgans r us (talk) 14:47, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/were-neandertals-the-orig/

Back in 2007 two different neanderthals in two different locations were found with mcir, as far as I know that is the exact same European variant, yet they claim today these are two completely different genes, they also said that a experiment was conducted with culture of bacteria to see how the gene interacted with melainated production, and it had a huge affect similar to what it does in humans, which according to them is "red hair and fair skin" not just red hair, so they literally watched this reaction yet don't seem to think anything is off with hirisplex prediction even though it hasn't predicted a single neanderthal as anything other than "dark to black" and "black hair" even the samples with this gene, There is a article by David Reich recently, where he discusses genetic papers being "politically correct" instead of scientifically correct, and believes it is a major problem in the field right now, he even says some finds are not discussed at all, for example even his own paper on the first seven yamnya samples said "overwhelmingly dark hair and eyes" but never mentioned that the oldest sample in the study was a eastern hunter gatherer the ancestors of yamnya was 7750 years old and blond hair, blue eyed and light skin with r1b and we wouldn't find out for three years, 2015 Allentoft states that light skin was in high frequency by bronze age and corded ware had a intermediate frequency of light eyes, but saag is claiming that corded ware is either intermediate or dark skin and changed all his light hair samples, there is supplement tables in the study, according to these tables fatyanovo is 99 percent derived at a5 and 62 percent derived at a2, that is not dark skin there is nobody outside of Europe even today that would match that frequency, in fact it is the exact same frequency as sardina, they are not dark skin Kurgans r us (talk) 07:21, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Eastern Hunter-Gatherer, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 16:50, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

You do realize that your sources right on Wikipedia right on evolution of blonde hair mentioned blonde eastern hunter gatherers and western steppe Herder, you do realize your own sources on the actual eastern hunter gatherer page "skin color and vitamin d and update" says some are blonde and that genetic history of south eastern Europe says so and so does David Reich who we are and how we got here, which are all cited on Wikipedia already Kurgans r us (talk) 02:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Clearly this is why nobody allows Wikipedia as a cited source as it takes almost no effort to discover kitlg gene for blond hair is in fact present in eastern hunter gatherer, Kurgans r us (talk) 02:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Austronesier (talk) 09:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Like that matters to me idiot lmao you don't let me edit when I use the sources right on Wikipedia clown 🤡, you think I care about your warning ⚠️ when I have 3 cited sources for blond hair in some eastern hunter gatherer and you still won't change it Kurgans r us (talk) 09:43, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

That's funny just note I wrote all your names down and when the next YouTube video comes out I'm going to make sure everyone knows you purposely put false information on Wikipedia while I'm reading the lines from all three of the sources Kurgans r us (talk) 15:16, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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You wanna explain to me how I'm getting banned for "exsesive edits" when other pages on Wikipedia say what I said cuz it's literally in three different articles, I know for a fact I'm right but you just automatic let that other guy edit what ever he wants regardless he has zero evidence and misrepresented what the link says on the page, and know Wikipedia thinks they can touch my ip address when nobody else even YouTube is not allowed to that, so I'll be looking in to the law on that, you shouldn't even be looking at people up address, it's a free Wikipedia Kurgans r us (talk) 15:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

And also I wasn't even changing a page, he wrote a talk with my name in it, but that's ok nothing wrong with that, it's only wrong if I defended myself, your all hypocrital loser's clearly cuz Ik for 100 percent fact Im right about eastern hunter gatherer Kurgans r us (talk) 15:24, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Your all such biased idiots, I sent him so much evidence Kurgans r us (talk) 15:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Clearly why he earsed it, cuz I'm right Kurgans r us (talk) 15:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

You are so stupid you literally just took his word for it that there was no source, go to eastern hunter gatherer and click the source on phenotype "skin color and vitamin d an update" look at figure 2 do you all just have a issue admitting it, or you really that dumb that you didn't even check Kurgans r us (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
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It's funny how multiple articles right on Wikipedia such as western steppe Herder says exactly what I sent him, I sent him three sources on eastern hunter gatherer one was already on the wiki page, yet my edit that says exactly what the paper says it "disruptive" but he can lie about evidence apparently that's not a problem, so I can't defend myself but he can make a talk with my name on it, cuz that's fair, clearly he earsed what I said cuz I'm obviously right, Wikipedia thinks it can touch ip address huh, not even YouTube can do that, I'll be looking into the law on that, it's absolutely pathetic that I'm definitely 100 percent right, other pages on Wikipedia even quoted the study Kurgans r us (talk) 15:34, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

So austronesier makes a claim and you automatically take his word for it without any investigation at all? You know this is united states of America right? How is a talk page a disruptive edit? I only edited the content of eastern hunter gatherer once, everything else was a talk page which my literal name was put into this talk page, but that's ok right? Has not a single one of you even looked into what I actually changed? Neither one of the cited sources say what he wrote in the physical appearance section, neither one, can anyone actually read these before they claim im disruptive lol "skin color and vitamin d and update" ( interestingly ancient north Eurasian derived populations such as EASTERN HUNTER GATHERER and yamnya carried the kitlg gene for blond hair to Europe),

"genomics history of south eastern Europe"

(three eastern hunter gatherers one each from Samara, Ukraine and motala carry the kitlg gene for blond hair as well as several later western steppe herders)

David Reich "who we are and how we got here"

"The first example of classic European blonde hair is first recorded in a ancient north Eurasian 18k years bp, as well as three EASTERN HUNTER GATHERER"

The link on the eastern hunter gatherer links to Scandinavian hunter gatherers study and the graph of SNPs clearly shows about 35 percent of eastern hunter gatherer were derived at oca2/herc2 see for yourself and the other study says "variable eye color" in the graph

he literally ask me for sources, then I gave him some and he ignored me and told me I can't change it, why does he have so much control over eastern Europe hunter gatherers when all his interest are clearly native American and south east Asia, according to his own page, how can you read these sources and conclude I'm disruptive, not that he is adding false information on your Wikipedia to suit his own agenda

on your talk page:

So because I said the word "coward" on a talk page directed at me, I'm blocked indefinitely, idk what even gives you the right to mess with anyone IP address, funny a "disruptive edit" has nothing to do with a talk page, the word coward lmao 😅 oh so your making excuses to continue to lie I get it, it's not even a swear, indefinitely lmao 😅, but it's ok for him to tell me I can't change anything then be completely passive aggressive about my evidence, do you even know what passive aggressive is lmao 😅, you should give out rewards for false information as well since it's literally all over, regardless if I'm blocked why isn't eastern hunter gatherer changed? So cuz I said coward that gives him the right to lie about evidence, did you even read the studies, just remember nobody actually uses Wikipedia for a source and this is why

There is literally not a single organization that would block you at all for saying coward, it was a talk page, it's not even a swear, where does your guidelines say I can't say coward or defend myself when there is an entire talk about me, it doesn't exsist, so people that are your favorite can literally say what ever they want in these articles and earse everyone else work then be completely passive aggressive after asking for sources, but nothing wrong with that, you have fun with your fake information I don't use Wikipedia anyway, cuz it's full of biased errors and everyone knows it Kurgans r us (talk) 11:00, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

You probably haven't even looked at the links yet cuz you believe everything your favorite passive aggressive liar says, so cuz I said coward and blocked you still keep the wrong information on eastern hunter gatherer, makes sense, read the article Kurgans r us (talk) 11:03, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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You do realize that the definition of your guidelines says persistent personal attacks, explain how saying coward is persistent Kurgans r us (talk) 11:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * If you don't understand that calling someone a coward is a personal attack, you lack the competence to edit an encyclopedia. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 12:05, 21 August 2021 (UTC)