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May 2010
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'response'

I always wondered why some people considered their information more reliable than others when they are not providing any solid reference ?! anyways it was solved

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Research fellow, you may be blocked from editing. Robotpandazombie ( talk ) 18:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

'Response'

though it was already solved by merging which is OK, but I don't understand why my edit was considered vandalism, but when people do the same to my article wasn't considered so !!
 * That might be because other people know how to make constructive edits while you do not.Shabeki (talk) 06:12, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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Mootros (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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Collaborating at Wikipedia
Dear Kushsinghmd,

I have noticed you are new to Wikipedia. To make to best of our time here, at this collaborative project I had a look again at this page. Please, have a look too at this page. I also noticed that since you started to contribute to the article research fellow, there have been some small improvements to the introduction; however these improvements came at some considerable price and effort through an extensive revert conflict. In order to avid this in the future, we should remind ourselves to engage in a constructive interaction without creating biases.

I hope you will continue to make meaningful contribution to this project and like to personally welcome you here.

Yours, Mootros (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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Are deliberately conflating two different issues?
"MOS states to use abbreviation on first occurence. "OR" in language doesnt necessirly mean more prominent than other. Even if more prominent, how does that hurt ?!"

Mootros (talk) 15:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about?
 * Have you not noticed there are two differnt debates going on?
 * The one about the use of aberrations; the other about the order how to list the two examples?
 * What is the hurt stuff?
 * Are you in pain?

Calling other edits vandalism
Making null edits with inflamatory edit summaries like this is not going to help the situation. Please refrain from doing that. Pedro : Chat  14:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I just forgot to add the reason first time when I undid the vanadalizing edits.
 * I appreciate the previous edit summary was blank. What I'm saying is that calling edits vandalism when they are not vandalism by WP standards is only likely to inflame a tense situation rather than achieving a compromise state between editors for the good of the article. Pedro : Chat  15:05, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think he is the one who started reverting all my edits and labelling most of them vanadalism, and I haven't seen any notice given to him that he should not do so !!! second, yes he is vandalizing, cause he is intentionally compromising the integrity of the article by all his recent edits. Again Thanks for your effective intervention and thanks for following the article. Kushsinghmd (talk) 15:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks, hope you tried to be honest this time in reporting incident, not as usual, like when you said I am vandalaizing the article when in fact you are just covering your unethical acts .. Kushsinghmd (talk) 21:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Stop this harassing language at once! You have been doing this on numerous occasions. Mootros (talk) 21:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * 1. This not harrasing language cause you really did so, otherwise please answer why did you change positions when you failed to respond to my objections ?!!
 * 2. I consider this tone harrasing to me, STOP IT NOW!
 * Kushsinghmd (talk) 22:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Stop using capital letters. Capitalising sentences or phrases is considered a form of shouting, which most people take as rude behaviour. Mootros (talk) 23:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * yea right !!! see who is talk ?! dont you feel emabarrassed when you are showing you clear double standard? talking about rudenes, and you are not saying please stop, but rather ordering me to stop ?!!! NO COMMENT ... perceieve it the way you like, that's your problem Kushsinghmd (talk) 23:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Who are other users who have been approving your changes at RF
Who are other users who have been approving your changes at RF as you claimed here? Name more than one user. Mootros (talk) 22:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * RHaworth .. integrated my first edits intot the article
 * De728631

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WP:ANI
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Vandalism Revision
Thank you for reverting vandalism here, but an all caps edit summary isn't necessary. Next time, please just type in regular text (no caps) what you are doing on that edit and then click save. It keeps us all from being yelled at. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 20:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Mootros
Mootros is willing to disengage and find a corner of Wikipedia and be there, not interacting with you. You need to do the same. Disengage, move on, get a cup of tea and take a WP:WIKIBREAK. Nothing is worth getting this worked up over, so just break away and find an article to work on. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 21:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Admin:


 * Since I am new to WP community, so I am not sure what you exactly mean. I havent been chasing Mootros or anything, but he rather did. He tried to ask about my location, several times reported me falsely. For every single change I make he was after me, reporting vandalism when it was not. In fact that's not bad in itself, but I believe that would help keep the integrity of WP. However when the rational behind this is soo irrational, and yet over a week now we are not taking any step forward, then there is a problem. I believe now is a good time to get this done. Not through users, but admins have a role to play in such situation, to investigate the presented materials from both side as neutral party, and any discussion should go through them. In Fact, we started improving when Regentstalks started to intervene, yet he didnt complete what he started for few hours, and said he will be off for a while !!!. All what I asked opposing party for is to back up their claims, yet they provided all sort of false claims, and when I pin point such ambigous deeds, they call it Harrasment !!! what is that ?!! I seriously would like intervention, and thorough investigation of this material, and such false claims. And If I am faulty or guilty, please tell me, however if the other party was faulty, then it is time to take some action since I am really starting to lose my patience. Finally, I have to thank you for your interventions, i really appreciate when I see admins giving us sometime to help us. Thanks Kushsinghmd (talk) 21:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * While I am reluctant to post this as Mootros has agreed to disengage, if you want intervention, the best way is go through mutually agreeable terms on WP:MEDCAB. MEDCAB is Mediation and isn't a battleground as so many pages have turned out to be so far.  It is where you talk out your problems and then move on for good.  It is non-binding and voluntary, but it does work.  It is the next best step to blocks for all, which is quickly coming if this behavior from both of you doesn't stop.  First though, before running off to MedCab, I want you to take a week and see how things go.  Mootros has agreed to disengage.  Don't talk to him, don't message him, don't bother him, and he will be expected to do the same to you.  We will be watching.  If after a week, if he as contacted you or engaged you, take it to MedCab.  But take the week first.  It could come out that nothing happens and everything is great.  I would also recommend staying away from Talk:Research fellow and finding another article to work on.  It seems you have given far too much time to that page and its sister page Research fellow.  Find a new article to work on, at present, there are 3,307,033 articles on English Wikipedia (the site you are on).  You will find one you will like and can work on peacefully.  Don't limit yourself to just one or two pages.  Got for the gusto.  Join a WikiProject where you can work on a whole slew of articles.  But battling to the bitter end on one or two pages isn't what this site is about.


 * Take the week, work on something new, and see how it goes. Editors and Admins alike will be watching. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 21:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Admin, I am Ok to take 1 week from RF and even from WP, but I am not sure how is this gonna help solving the dispute ?! Matter of fact I belive that we don't need a break as much as we need an admin / moderator to regulate and intervene when appropriate. But the way I am seeing this, to be honest, specially after what happened since last report, that not much actions will be taken. I havent seen comments except a short one from one admin on Mootros report, and none on my comment on that report!!. So far I am not optimistic, that things will change just by doing nothing, I beleive we have to work to see results.  So us ( Mootros and I) taking a break, does that mean that admins will be working on the RF thing, or they will also take a break too?! I think I have already put in suffiecnt work and enough time, that this job should be completed. Yes there is many WP pages, but the experience I already had, will make me wait till I see what will happen.


 * FYI I am not going to contact Mootros. If you noticed, I never started contacting him on his page until he approached me first. And even on the discusson page I didnt know him till i find him labelling my edits as vandalism!!! So this shows that I already not that kind of person in approachin someone.


 * So my proposed solution, why not an admin complete the work that Regenttalks started here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Research_fellow#Protected, and take decsions based on this ?


 * thanks Kushsinghmd (talk) 21:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Just want to make a point clear, I am not an admin. I am just an editor who is taking the lead on this discussion, which any editor can do.  There are plenty of editors who step in the place of admins when no admins are available.  We are normally more easy to get along with as we don't block people (and can't) and people are happy with that.


 * Regardless of my lack of adminship, I am glad that you are not going to contact him and he isn't going to contact you. This makes my day.  I am glad you will also be taking the week.  I recommend checking out the [random article feature to find something neat to work on.  If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me or message here as I have it on my watchlist. - [[User:Neutralhomer| NeutralHomer ]] •  Talk  • 22:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it was really a pleasure to be on my page. Kushsinghmd (talk) 22:27, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You're Welcome :) Glad I could help. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 22:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Research fellow
Kushsinghmd, the consensus is, MD is inappropriate in the lead. Please do not take that as an insult to you or MDs! The different types of research fellows can get explained in the rest of the article, it is not worth wasting your time on the argument. Good wishes, MiRroar (talk) 22:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

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Muhammad's wives
Hi, I have reverted your edits to this article for a number of reasons, but most especially because the overall tone and POV of the content was simply not appropriate for the article. Much of the material that you are interested in including is already represented in Criticism of Muhammad which is really the proper place for it. Thanks for your contributions to the project though; I wish you the best! Doc  Tropics  23:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for visiting my profile. I would urge you not to do delete, but rather to improve. That's not my POV, that's critics' POV, and it is worth mentioned in the article, thank you Kushsinghmd (talk) 23:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand both the POV and the criticism, and it has its place. However, that place is more properly in the article dedicated to criticism, rather than the very first sentence of this article. If you review Criticism of Muhammad and Criticism of Islam you will find that both polygamy and Muhammad's "personal life" are already covered, and some of your text and references would fit better there. Thanks for your consideration on this topic, Doc  Tropics  23:55, 13 June 2010 (UTC) Also, I'm going to copy/paste these last 2 comments back to your page to keep things all in one place. I'll watch here for further comments.


 * The article Criticism of Muhammad is too generalized. However, the new criticism section is specific to the marriages of Muhammad, which is directly relevant to the wives of Muhammad. As in many articles on Wikipedia, there is sometimes a bit of overlap, which is acceptable, I don't think I need to give examples on this. Kushsinghmd (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Please do not repeatedly reinsert material that has been removed by several different editors now without first engaging in discussion on the talk page. Much of that material was not directly relevant, poorly written, and relied too heavily on interpretations of primary sources, which is not allowed. Please use to talk page to work with other editors to determine how the material might be better presented.--Cúchullain t/ c 12:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Muhammad's wives. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --Cúchullain t/ c 12:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that's not how it works. If you want the material included, it is on you to defend it on the article's talk page. You have consistently failed to do that despite repeated requests. If you revert even one more time, you will be blocked from editing.--Cúchullain t/ c 12:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Read WP:VANDALISM for what constitutes vandalism; removing inappropriate material is not vandalism. Once again, your material is sourced chiefly to primary sources, which is inappropriate.--Cúchullain t/ c 12:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

FYI - I am a productive, long-time editor and I made every effort to engage you in a friendly collegial manner. Referring to my good-faith edits as "vandalism" is grossly offensive and insulting, not to mention completely false. On a closely related topic, you have blatantly violated the WP:3RR policy and I have requested that your account be temporarily blocked from editing. I urge you to review our policies and reflect on how a "collaborative" project requires editors to work together. Doc  Tropics  14:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Sir, I do respect the fact you area long time editor, but reverting my edits while the discussion is still ongoing is unacceptable behavior, if not insulting. I expected that you would respect the ongoing discussion and actively share more in it. Please share in the discussion opened on the talk page, I am very willing to discuss all the new edits one at a time for better focus. I put the first one for discussion, please comment if you have any concern. Thank you again Kushsinghmd (talk) 14:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for your disruption caused by edit warring and violation of the three-revert rule&#32;at Muhammad's wives. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Courcelles (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

24 hours is a very short block. Please read WP:BRD which explains exactly where you went wrong. You boldly made your changes, you were reverted, but then you failed to engage in productive discussion. Instead, you repeatedly reverted when the consensus of every participating editor was against you. It's critically important that you learn to work with others on this project; please use the 24 hours to consider this. Doc  Tropics  14:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I can see that you went after other articles I edited, and deliberately vanadalized the integrity of them not respecting any sources or discussion, like the forced conversion. Also I havent seen you commenting or replying to the talk page of Muhammad's wives, you just prefered to delete, if this is not vandlaism, then what do you call what you are doing ?????Kushsinghmd (talk) 14:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you read WP:VANDALISM yet? You're really barking up the wrong tree here. --jpgordon:==( o ) 16:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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