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San Donato
On the family tree you provided, can you explain which was the 1st Duke. I have his name as Scipione, but he fails to appear on the tree. Am I wrong? This is a very important question. Giacomo Returned 18:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * He provided nothing. He just copied and deliberately altered the genealogical tree published here and - of course! - deliberately omitting of reporting (and copying) the Note too, that explain that the parental degree on the succession genealogies, at this century,  was ever been calculated "adopting the so-called "Germanic system", wich count one degree for every generation, excluding the common ancestor, system of calculation fully legal at the time of the succession dispute on subject, system of calculation proved and confirmed by several succession issues raised under review by the Royal Chamber, as well as in the large majority of the "processetti matrimoniali" (marriage agreements) during XVI-XVIII century" (!).
 * Today, however, it is in use to calculate the relationship degree with so-called "Roman system", or counting the grades going up and down to the common parent, but this happens only from the Napoleonic period". This is fully know and every serious historians of the XVI-XVIII century former Kingdom of Naples is perfectly aware of it! i.e., for references check here a short article about the "Germanic or Canon Degree Calculation System" on the http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/anthropology/tutor/descent/cognatic/canon.html Californian Universty of Manitoba site, by professor Brian Schwimmer.
 * one more reference here: "La parentela e l’affinità nel diritto nobiliare (il computo dei gradi secondo il sistema romano; il computo dei gradi secondo il sistema germanico)", and here the  article Genealogia e rappresentazione  familiare  by Roberta Corbellini, Director of the State Archive of Udine, page 2. etc etc etc etc etc .....
 * Finally,, the 1st Duke Scipione Sanseverino was the father of the Francesco Sanseverino 2° Duca di San Donato assassinated at August 10th, 1648, hausband of donna Porzia Sanseverino 6° Baronessa di Càlvera, those lasts the parents of the last Duchess Anna, died 9 (and both present in the genealogical tree).--Marimbambito (talk) 03:15, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your helpful mesage, I have replied to you on my talk page. Giacomo Returned 11:31, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Again I have relpeid here . Thanks. Giacomo Returned 17:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC)