User talk:Kww/07242010

On the menace that scared the hell out of me
Why you don't go after the prick that first insulted me and vandalised my posts? Are you afraid of him or biased towards me?

Want to block me? Be my guest! --Officer Boscorelli (talk) 03:01, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Ultratip source
After reworking the Ultratop articles a little bit, I've realized the explanation of Ultratip doesn't say that that chart lists only songs which are not currently or have never been on the respective Ultratop chart. My understanding is that it's one or the other (the latter, maybe?), but as I move to add that detail, I find myself without any citation to support me, just what I've read of discussion here on WP. I certainly don't see it here. Do you know where I could look? &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 09:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for my recent edits...
I'm sorry. I thought that someone had lowered the sales. I just wrote the real sales... but as wikipedia was time-traveled, the sources also changed. But I can find sources saying the sales I wrote. If I find them...can i put them?? I just don't want to be blocked, because I didn't so anything wrong. I won't do it again without sources. thanks --GenieOFbritney (talk) 22:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I just edited it with this source...

http://www.tpimagazine.com/production-profiles/317094/britney_spears_the_circus_tour.html if its worng please revert my edit. --GenieOFbritney (talk) 22:53, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

A new suggestion for Brasil
I've noticed a slow and steady resurge in the number of times Billboard.br or brasilhot100 and chary1300.com are added to articles. would it not be a good interim solution for them to be black listed? Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 15:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * What did you mean by the comment "Once it's on the spam blacklist, no one can save an article containing a link to the site, even if they weren't the one that added the link." ? Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Please warn vandals or place a note on their talkpage
Hello, Kww. You reverted a spam addition on iPhone, however, you forgot to place a warning on the user's talk page. I have done so; in the future please make sure to let the user know. Thanks,  m o n o   17:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Eurovision Song Contest 2011
Hi i was wondering if you could block the Eurovision Song Contest 2011 article from IP users edits for atleast a couple of months or even until january 1 2011 so that this whole thing can calm down. Constant vandalism. I dont know but perhaps even so from that Xtina girl that you are blocking right now. have put up a request on the appropriate page for the protections to.--ÅlandÖland (talk) 21:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

The Undead Dinosaurs From Hell
Please revisit and revise your decision to delete this page. It was about a serious solution to a serious issue in society today. I myself am not part of the band - but the band members seemed serious about taking legal action. The exclusion of their article is in their opinion "discriminatory, inappropriate, and illegal." This is copied from an email to myself. I was recently asked to create a page for them (I have been on Wiki for years, under multiple usernames). Upon doing so it has been deleted numerous times, for no good reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Automaticshutter (talk • contribs) 00:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the speedy response. I responded on my talk page, as to keep this short. I personally would refer you to point number 5. They are part of ""Alive or Lifeless"", an indie record company, and have a contract to release two albums. They will be doing so with the first later this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Automaticshutter (talk • contribs) 00:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I do not have the time now to re-write the article, nor will I the next few days. I will re-write it when I have the chance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Automaticshutter (talk • contribs) 01:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

They have a single released currently. The next release will be August. Policy must have changed - because in the past a contract to record 2 or more albums was considered enough (this was just months ago). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Automaticshutter (talk • contribs) 01:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

210.14.44.33
210.14.44.33 seems like a sockpuppet from his edits at the Gaga articles. Can you check on it? --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 05:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, my bad. I just saw your comment at Talk:Lady Gaga. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 07:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Living Lohan
Kww, I can understand why I did not leave a explanation to why I removed "All The Way Around" from Living Lohan, but I feel that the song deserves a article of its own and this portion does not belong in a article about a TV show. I'm going to recommend that it be split from the article.(Robert Moore) 8:45, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Kww, I'm going to get rid of the infobox for the song. We can talk about the song, but this article should be about the TV show and there was more to the series than just the song. Like you said, they are mated, but the song infobox should go unless someone can prove otherwise, because she not released anything since and she has yet to release her album, which I doubt will ever see the light of day. (talk) 1:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I decided that I am not going to pursue the idea of dropping the song infobox, but the article can be expanded just in case. It does make sense to leave it in since it was the focus of the series in the first place.(talk) 10:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Teeny Template Topics
New Zealand is missing a quotation mark before its charts.org.nz in the ref line. And I've left a note for you about Norway on my Talk. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 09:12, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Czech this
A page for the Czech Republic chart archive shows a heading like this:
 * IFPI ČR   Hitparáda - RADIO TOP100 Oficiální   Týden - 201018

but Singlechart produces a reference line like
 * "ČNS IFPI". Hitparáda - TOP50 Prodejní. IFPI Czech Republic. Note: insert 201018 into search. Retrieved 2010-06-03.

The obvious thing is, they don't match. Probably the biggest concern here is the discrepancy between TOP100 and TOP50. It sure looks like a top 100 list to me.

Additionally, this line continues its italicization beyond the Note and into the Retrieved date string. I'll bet this is a problem with all of the macros which produce such notes (you don't turn off the italics at the end), though I've neither looked nor tested.. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk)


 * Hi, another note on the singles chart macro for the Czech republic: It produces a Wikilink to IFPI, when really it should be International Federation of the Phonographic Industry or, better yet IFPI. Just IFPI leaves an ugly "redirected from" when you click on it. Janfrie1988 (talk) 16:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And yet another note: The above is also true for the Spanish chart macro, which creates the wikilink PROMUSICAE, which also leaves an ugly redirect message. I feel extremely silly to have to report this and not be able to fix it myself. Cheers. Janfrie1988 (talk) 00:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * My objection is that its ugly, its as simple as that. Editors usually take great care to limit those redirect messages to as few as possible, I have encountered them very rarely when clicking on wikilinks. Wikilinking is one of the core mechanics of Wikipedia that set it apart from other encyclopedias. It should be as comfortable, easy and unconfusing as possible. This "data garbage" of redirect messages is unnecessary. Anyhow, where can I find the templates? I would feel a lot better if I at least could fix stuff myself. Janfrie1988 (talk) 00:47, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The redirect messages are just a trifle, sure - but an unnecessary trifle. You were right about the redirects. I don't like it but it seems to be the community consensus. Redirects are not one of the reasons im am no fan of these macros in general, however. We already discussed these reasons earlier. For the sake of more effectively controlling vandalism I could live with them, though, if (and only if) they work not the least bit less than manual sytax. The reason I might have sounded angry was, as I specified on the talk page here, that a chart position (Spain's) was removed because the source in the macro was outdated. In that, the macro effectively made the article worse, which is reason enough for me to take it out until it works perfectly. And there were more issues. The Finnish source is outdated, too. The Austria macro doesn't display that the source is in German, the Czech source urged the reader to tipe the week in a search field, when there could be a direct link to artist and song. This probably isn't even fixable on a macro level, since we would need a command that automatically completes the URL depending on the article the macro is used in. This may all be trifles but there are a lot of them - and in sum they make the article worse, sources harder to check. However, my most important critique would still be that the macros use second-hand sources instead of the official ones. Second-hand sources often lack behind and multiply the chance of errors. Sorry for being so confrontational. It is not my intention to put your work down. All I am asking is that macros should be used with caution and only if it is ensured that they work flawlessly and use correct sources. Janfrie1988 (talk) 01:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, seeing that those trifles are bugs you are working on, I think this is settled. Thanks again for your work. I still don't totally get why you expose yourself to that, though ;). Besides all the work, you probably get shit from all sides. And all that for a little protection from vandalism? To be honest, so far I haven't nearly been as annoyed by vandalism as I have by people who take out correct but unsourced chart positions because they were too lazy to look for a source and just assumed the positions were wrong :P. Oh, besides, your buddy JohnFromPinckney has done quite a good job at defending/explaining your work here. Cheers Janfrie1988 (talk) 04:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Hungary
Looking at Hungary, it seems as though we could build up a URL given a week/year pair as with other macros. For example, after doing my search for Ke$ha's Tik Tok, I click through to http://www.mahasz.hu/?menu=slagerlistak&menu2=archivum&lista=radios&ev=2010&het=17&submit_=Keres%E9s which shows me the Rádiós Top 40 chart for week 17 of 2010. Since I figure you've researched this, maybe there's some reason we couldn't (always) get there with. Or maybe they've changed things? &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 11:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'm back
You turn around for five seconds and the house is on fire and the children are wandering off cliffs. Anyway, am aware of the situation (Miraflores is on the ocean, too, that fool) and will keep an eye on the NH thing and make sure that the Joran article isn't used for a POV fork.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Stagnant request
Howdy - have I entered something incorrectly here? It's been stagnant for quite a while and this sock is editing fast & furious. I don't see it on the main page awaiting checkuser so I'm thinking there's a step I need to do in order to relist it. You submit these more often than I; how can I get it re-listed ASAP? - eo (talk) 20:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Greenock125
 * THANK YOU. I don't recall ever having to do that before.  Is it because I just never did it right or because this one is a re-list? - eo (talk) 20:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Kevin, are you having User talk:Andy593 watchlisted? Cheers, Amalthea  12:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Gaga
Hello Kevin, I believe you would understand the revert which I made, because clearly you see teh fancrufty addition of singles, and the dead Rolling Stone link. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 07:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The template looks good. One question, is there any way we can use en-dash between words, like "Ultratop.be – LAdy Gaga – Bad Romance (song)". Just asking. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 07:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The en-dash should be used in the title of the reference, as I stated above. When two words are spaced by dash, use an en-dash in them instead of the normal dash. If you can point me the template source code, I can do the change myself. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:11, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Then I don't think we can replace those dash in the title with en-dash, can we? Maybe we can include some replacement code which automatically searches the HTML title, and replaces "-" with "–" ? --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:46, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't I mention it before? My bad. Actually normally I have seen that at FACs, reviewers sometimes ask if the normal dashes in the reference titles can be replaces by en-dash, to have a consistency with the en and en-dashes throughout the article. Recently, even I also started doing the same. Hence just asking if there's a possibility of doing the same with the template to carry forward this consistency. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 03:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya. A discussion is the better way. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 04:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Clarification re Inniverse
I'll admit that I've become rather frustrated with AN's behavior at AfDs and elsewhere in Wikipedia space at times, but my main objection has always been to his damage in the mainspace in his efforts to prevent deletions. Personally, I'd be happy just to go my gnomish way without worrying about sockpuppets and copyvios and hoaxes and all the other nonsense that goes on here, but I seem to be incapable of not occasionally finding myself sucked into such things. If it turns out that Inniverse = AN, however, any vestiges of good faith I have will be utterly exhausted—I'll pursue him wherever he pops up. I apologize if I seemed to undercut your SPI filing; I had thought a good deal about the matter and had tentatively concluded that the new user was unlikely to be AN and felt that I should say so. He could very well have fooled me, though. Deor (talk) 00:24, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Andy593
Thank you for clarifying things on my talk page :). Janfrie1988 (talk) 11:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

a new brexx sockpuppet?
Im wondering if there is a potential sock puppet going on here. The user in question is. im dubious because though obviously a new account he/she appears to be editing similar articles to other Brexx socks including Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel and those related to Monica. Palmlipbalm doesn't appear to be acting like a new user... he/she is editing like many of the most recent socks of Brexx did, once warned about inserting improperly cited material he/she is proceeding to add as many links as possible to try and verify details even though the links provided are not sufficiently WP:verifiable. I'm not sure if it definately is a Brexx sock... but it could be worth a brief overview from your expertise. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Opinion on GA nomination
Hello. It has been proposed on the talk page of Lena Meyer-Landrut to nominate the article for GA or even FA. I am not sure what to think about this. It would be good to have the opinion of an experienced editor before we risk looking silly ;). Janfrie1988 (talk) 20:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Charly1300
Ok thanks, but just wondering, what does this have to do with me? Lol. Did i put this chart on a page or something, i don't remember? Candyo32 (talk) 21:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for letting me know that! I thought the user was vandalizing since they didn't explain why the chart was removed. Candyo32 (talk) 21:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Brexx
Maybe I wrong, but could be, he's editing Pink/Katy Perry/Kelly Rowland/Christina Aguilera pages. I don't know but it could be. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 17:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way Charlie ( return. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  18:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and blocked today.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess Hard (song) was the last piece of the puzzle :). Tb hotch Ta lk C.  16:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

MK
Please see this edit and this edit. I was collecting evidence for an RFC/UC here but this recent threat to sockpuppet might require immediate action. -OberRanks (talk) 18:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Possible violation of user unblocking
Hi there. I have suspicions that user Wiki-11233 has broken the terms of being unblocked by using an alt account. Details can be found here: Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Archives/Archive8.

In a nut-shell, Panda.1001 was blocked as sock puppet of Wiki-11233, and I suspect that I'm-Back-1001 (on both Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons) is a sock puppet of Panda.1001 (and by extension Wiki-11233) due to the specific edits made by the two accounts.

An investigation has been filed by TFOWR and I'm-Back-1001 has already been blocked, but I noticed that on Wiki-11233s page that "This user has been unblocked on a trial basis, and is currently subject to the following restrictions: 1. No alternate accounts, and no anonymous editing: all edits must be performed under this account..." and "If you believe this editor is editing in violation of these restrictions, please contact Kww.", so here I am. I don't know if this is necessary (due to the investigation being filed) but I thought I should probably let you know anyway.  Alphathon TM ( talk ) 21:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Context for VanDerSloot_SecurityVideo.jpg
Why is this image out of context for this article? Would it be better if it was a shot that had him together with the victim? KimChee (talk) 23:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Book Creator Toolbox
There is a book creator toolbox on the top of my screen containing a book that I didn't create. I might create a book later in time, but I want to get rid of the toolbox without deleting someone else's work. What shall I do? Just leave it there?? Thanks. Georgia Peachez (talk) 15:00, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Checker Fred (talk) 15:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

iCarly and Checker Fred
He can be a bit frustrating to work with. I had a similar experience when he insisted on adding season 5 information to List of FETCH! with Ruff Ruffman episodes six months before it aired. All of the WP:CRYSTAL/OR stuff is still in the article and it's getting worse. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

FYI
You have been mentioned in an AN/I discussion here. FunBob1986 (talk) 20:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bonnie Pemberton
Think you could read over that one again? The only "keeps" cite CatFancy as a source, and I think Deor's refutation of that argument is reasonable.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If there had been no !votes other than Deor's nomination and Ponyo's !vote, that would not have been sufficient to delete the article. Therefore, even if I were to discount all the keep !votes, which I don't, there would still not be sufficient consensus to delete.
 * Inniverse/Azviz did cause enough confusion to the debate that I have marked it as no prejudice against immediate renomination, but that is, I think, as far as I will go. Stifle (talk) 14:53, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

WebCite
Ok, thanks for letting me know.&mdash;Siquisloco(talk) 22:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Icelandic Chart
Netlistinn er byggður á sölu og streymi íslenskrar og erlendrar tónlistar á Tónlist.is. Tekið er mið af seldum lögum annars vegar og spiluðum lögum hins vegar (streymi). Aðeins eru tekin lög inn í listann sem bæði er mögulegt er að kaupa og hlusta á í áskrift. Þannig gefur listinn góða mynd af vinsælustu lögunum á Tónlist.is í hverri viku. Listinn er samansettur af þúsunum seldra og spilaðra laga en aðeins eru birt 30 efstu opinberlega." can be called as reliable - in my opinion, and we are here just to build up something, we should not just decide easily whether they are unreliable or not. --Triancula (talk) 00:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course i haven't got a definite proof etc., but these sentences: "Lagalistinn inniheldur mest spiluðu lögin á Íslandi og er unninn úr gögnum frá Rás 2, Bylgjunni, FM957, X-inu, Kananum og tonlist.is" & "Spila allan listann Setja í lagalista og fleira Kaupa valin lög Setja lög í spilara


 * I used Google Translate as you guess, there is not much translators from Icelandic to English, whatever, and with these sentences, i got that the charts are compiled with the Icelandic radio stations' top list and tonlist digital download - a system just like Nielsen's, IFPI's. If it was only a digital and a "marketing" site, they would not have cared the radio stations etc. --Triancula (talk) 01:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, I looked into our little problem here. I know this is no proof for reliability but when you enter "Iceland singles" into Wikipedia search, there are quite some articles who include Icelandic positions and use tonlist.is as a source, including Is It True?, This Is My Life (Eurobandið song) and this year's ESC entry from Iceland Je ne sais quoi (song). Thoughts? Janfrie1988 (talk) 03:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Still undecided. If it's a legitimate chart, it needs to go into WP:GOODCHARTS and singlechart, and I don't do either one lightly. I'll probably find the Iceland wikiproject and ask about it.&mdash;Kww(talk) 03:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

oops
Never mind. We are all humans. ;) Janfrie1988 (talk) 01:28, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I Am...Sasha Fierce
Hi, hope you are doing great. As you may be knowing, I Am...Sasha Fierce was under construction and i have helped a lot in the article. I made the final changes today (See view history of the article). So can you please see if it can pass for GA now? It does not lack anything other GA albums have. (Jivesh boodhun (talk) 19:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC))

Can you tell me what "I Am...Ssaha fierce" lacks to pass for GA? Everything has already been done in the article. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 15:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Charlie (again)
Attacked me (again), attacked its sockpuppetry case, seems like he won0t stop. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 22:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change
An Arbitration request in which you are involved has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change/Workshop.

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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 00:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Header
The problem is that a irani user has been grossing MJ sales without sources since I don't know how many time. He started as an IP user with the articles Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix and List of best-selling remix albums worldwide, after I left a message, he/she stopped. but then return as, then was blocked and return as , later as another IP, then as and finally as. Blood, the list, and dangerous were protected yesterday, but he returned today as and. Double album were protected today for the same. Like I said at WP:AIV it is impossible that new users edit the same articles with pourly sourced content, if it would be truth, a lot of other users still doing the same and information would appear. Yesterday I violated WP:3rr at dangerous, and I said "Admins if you want block me (for 3RR, I reverted six times), but please protect this, I did't was blocked, if you consider block me for that, I understand you. That is the problem. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  05:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll keep in mind, if this countinue, I'll open a sockpuppetry case, because, you know, this kind of "users" won't stop until their info keep. as far as I know he started in April and obviously won't stop . Tb hotch Ta lk C.  05:55, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Why?
I saw this edit of yours to Jessica Simpson, and fail to see the reason for it. Could you please explain yourself? Debresser (talk) 05:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

womanizer
Sorry that i placed the Danish chart 2x since it said Denmark chart and not the Danish Charts so thanks--UntouchableBritney (talk) 06:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

So umm why did you deleate the Turkish Chart since it topped that chart? --UntouchableBritney (talk) 06:23, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

More singlechart stuff
Hi, Kevin. I haven't scrutinized all of your latest changes, but I have a bit of feedback for you, possibly some more work to throw on the heap.

BTW [complete change of topic], thanks for stepping in with 79.120.129.186. I guess I probably didn't need to leave him a comment at all, and I believe I could have worded it differently, or maybe dropped in a smiley or something. I think I was frustrated at the repetitive addition of unconstructive fan drivel on Talk:Recovery (Eminem album), and thought I could educate at least one user. Total fail. Thanks again, though. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:32, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The reference for Billboardpopsongs has what looks like a stray Billboard in front.
 * 2) To match cite web, the period that's currently before " (in Swahili) " should come after, as in " (in Swahili). " So,
 * ^ "Lescharts.com - Rihanna - Rude Boy" (in French). Les classement single. Hung Medien.
 * instead of
 * ^ "Lescharts.com - Rihanna - Rude Boy". (in French) Les classement single. Hung Medien.
 * 1) Spain and Sweden don't seem to have any period at all, either before or after the language. Or maybe the other macros just have an extra period, before the language, and Spain and Sweden are the exceptions which do it right (making #2 above a question of removal rather than shifting).
 * 2) Spain is shown as (in Spanish), but it's really English. (See my test results table.)
 * 3) I suspect you copied the Czech Republic macro and tweaked it for Slovakia. I see some things in Slovakia that I think need changing: The "ČNS" should be "SNS"; the language for Slovakia should be Slovak; and "IFPI Czech Republic" should be "IFPI Slovakia" as in
 * "ČNS IFPI" (in Slovak) Slovakian Singles Chart. IFPI Czech Republic. Note: insert 201018 into search. Retrieved June 7, 2010.
 * Also, I'm not sure we shouldn't change the adjective in "Slovakian Singles Chart" to "Slovak" (or just use "Slovakia"), since I get the impression that "Slovakian" is generally considered wrong (at least by Slovaks). But why isn't this bit parallel to the Czech reference line, something more like:
 * "SNS IFPI" (in Slovak) Hitparáda - RADIO TOP100 Oficiálna. IFPI Slovak Republic.
 * ? (Text paralleling Czech based on Google Translate result.) Or maybe the Czech ref should look more like Slovakia does now. I'm, uh, disturbed by the difference for two sources so similar.
 * 1) I still have intentions of updating the template documentation. I will find make time soon.
 * 2) Did you mean to use your local copy of the template in this edit to Satellite (Lena Meyer-Landrut song)?

Test results, doc, remarks
I've done some testing, though I haven't covered everything yet. I've also been in the documentation, as you've probably seen. Here're some notes from both: I have to go back to real life so I'm probably done with the documentation for the day (unless you don't like Denmark or something you tell me about soon). I haven't tested Hungary or your new UK and BB macros, nor reviewed the appropriateness of the doc's examples. There's always tomorrow... &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 15:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Dude, I love your periods now. I can't find any that are misplaced or "different". Yay.
 * 2) I complained about Spain being incorrectly labeled (in Spanish), and you fixed it, but the other Hung charts from non-German countries are also in English, namely: Finland, Italy, Norway, Sweden. Sorry I didn't notice this before.
 * 3) Norway seems to always go to Hung, even with year & week present (or only one). Is it borked or am I overlooking something (I think you fixed this once, and I even helped, but I don't see what's wrong now).
 * 4) I like the refname thingy. I tested it on only two macros, but it's cool.
 * 5) I tested the Error test for Irish chart. OK.
 * 6) I've added an example to the documentation showing an error message for Hungary. I did this by using a live, erroneous Hungary macro. I hope this won't disturb you when it shows up on your radar as an error. If it does, we can change it to a manually-entered red text.
 * 7) Bulgarian error message (bad URL) is not red, but black. Do you care?
 * 8) Please look at my descriptions of the flavors of Denmark (mmm, Danish!) to verify that I have correctly and appropriately described the situation. I've forgotten who was complaining about our use of Hung archives or where s/he was doing it, but I remember not being clear on what hir concerns were. Check me.
 * 9) Was there some special reason, like the Danish concern of a change in 2007, that you made Norway conditional too? Or was it just a cool option you built in to make users happy (and because you knew how then)? Editors get to pick one or the other by way of providing week/year, for whatever song or time period they want to, right?
 * 10) I believe that Billboardcountrysongs refers to the chart WP describes as Hot Country Songs (Billborad's f=357 chart). I've added that link in the doc table, but it appears that the macro doesn't link there. It's probably best to wait until we get some consensus about renaming, but I suggest you put this on the list of targets for when you do change them
 * Don't let me confuse you with the way I phrased #2 above. Only Austria and Germany are in German. Switzerland has a German version of the site, but you don't point to it; you point to the English one. Better point you to my big table again, just to be sure. I believe only Finland, Italy, Norway, Sweden need changing. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 13:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Denmark
I'm having some trouble with Denmark (but then, the Swedes do, too). I'm trying to use  on One Love (Blue song), but when I include the week and year in the macro, the resulting ref is http://www.hitlisterne.dk/default.asp?w=45&y=2002&list=t40, which doesn't include any charts/positions. I chose week 45 and year 2002 after poking around and finding http://hitlisterne.dk/lister.asp?w=45&y=2002&list=s20, which shows only the top 20 but happens to include this song. The Denmark 2007 macro goes to the same (unsatisfying) page. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 08:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Did the fine folks at Hitlisten.NU change something, or did we break something recently?
 * 2) Would you prefer stuff like this posted here, or over at Template talk:Singlechart?
 * I've done more research. It seems that Hitlisten.NU has a two-part archive. Singles from Week 1 of 2006 up to the present are shown on 40-song charts at http://www.hitlisterne.dk/default.asp?w=1&y=2007&list=t40 (where w= points to the week and y=points to the year). Songs before that, namely from Week 1 2001 to Week 53 2006, are shown as 20-song charts at http://hitlisterne.dk/lister.asp?w=1&y=2001&list=s20. So, now I request more logic to choose the Top 20 or Top 40 list (and respective URL) depending on the year. Can you do that? I'm not sure you test values anywhere. Yet. Thanks and good luck. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 08:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

UntouchableBritney
seems very familiar. Any guess as to who? Accusing everyone that edits Britney articles of being Christina Aguilera fans rings bells, but I can't place it.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It could be, but I don't know, he is not changing sales (yet), but he is violating 3RR (like Genie), this user should be watched. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  16:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Country Charts
Sources? Hmm. Well, every chart position is archived in Joel Whitburn's Hot Country Songs 1944-2008 book and its predecessors. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't think of any other archives. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 02:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * At least three of the country music editors have a copy of the Whitburn book, including me. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 15:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Angels
Without that cover there would be just a blank space. It leaves readers wondering what the cover art for that single is. Its easyer for them to get it here then to look somewhere else. STAT -Verse 03:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Corbin Bleu (Personal life)
Hey Kww, why remove Personal life in corbin bleu Article, Please, Add Again (Personal life) in Corbin bleu Please look http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corbin_Bleu&oldid=367756713, Because they contain information for the Corbin Blue, ok my frinds, good luck.--94.96.170.200 (talk) 15:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

User:Greenock125
TFOWR 13:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I created the page "Tsadaq Bmein" so can I edit it? Uvero (talk) 13:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Page creator
Hi, I created the page "Tsadaq Bmein" so can I edit it? Uvero (talk) 13:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Admin
Do you enjoy making people's lives a misery on Wikipedia? You are clearly not experienced to be an "admin". 16:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.221.50 (talk)

iPhone image
Hi! I noticed you edited iPhone and changed the lead image. I'd like you to give your input on the talk page. Cheers, HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

User: Mr. Prez
He make it again. Here. -- Night Fight  18:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I concur, Mr. Prez's edits are very unconstructive. QuasyBoy (talk) 18:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * He doesn't look like a great editor, but I don't see that he recreated "Good Luck on Deck With a Chance."&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

RevDel
--No rush, just thought you might miss the reply if you were watching because my talk page is quite busy. It'll be archived by the bot in 36 hours, but you can always go and fish it out of the archive. Best, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   23:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

FICT clarrification
Could you better explain what in my edit did not make sense? It basically said that we may not immediatly delete articles because some sources which can demonstate notability are not readily accessable (in the short timeframe of an AfD) and I went and gave an incomplete listing of such (especially print and foriegn language ones are often used as key types of media that have problems of being readily accessable in those debates, but there are others). 陣 内 Jinnai 07:30, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The Best Damn Thing chart
Hi, I'm still a bit new to Wikipedia so I was wondering what the problem was with the charts. I was just a bit confused what I did wrong: was it that I added a seperate 'ref' column or was it that I didn't format the references correctly? Chart references and review references always confuse me...can they simply not be put into the same format as the other refs in an article? Do they have to be [addresshere namehere]? Sorry to pester you! Zylo1994 (talk) 16:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Maybe I am wrong, but this user smell like Brexx (Marron 5, The-Dream, Lady Gaga, Pink). Tb hotch Ta lk C. 17:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Teenage Dream
I was just wondering if you could remove the protection on Teenage Dream, or at least move it from the incubated page. It looks good enough and the album is confirmed bye Katy on her website. She also said the pre-order with the track listing is going to go up soon.PinkFunhouse13 (talk) 19:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Stand-alone lists (television)
proj

What should our policy be on articles that contain lists related to television? You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Stand-alone lists (television). Taric25 (talk) 23:03, 21 June 2010 (UTC) (UTC) (Using )

Single Chart
I did not revert. I only changed it to the format that the article is already based with. It is inconsistent now. And if people discussed about adding the format without just adding it and not warning any editors about it, it becomes a problem. I have learned this too with my own edits. And if specifying the chart is the problem that you guys have, it can be specified manually. Please just maintain the article with the format it already is using. Changing the entire article to singlecharts would be too long of a task because the lead and "Chart performance" section would need to be redone. And the references would be left inconsistent as well, as the single chart formatting is different than how it is. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 00:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Nelly Again
It seems this issue has been brought up again! It seems some can't get it through their head that for a foreign born person to get citizenship they most go through the process of obtaining the citizenship e.g they are not automatically a citizen as soon as they pop out of the oven ,that is erroneous.I have not seen one iota source that she has actually claimed Portuguese citizenship before or at the beginning of her fame,it is clear that it should just say Canadian Singer than talk about her ethnic ties down the line in which it plain as day does.

Here are some examples Here you will see Steve Perry who is of Portuguese descent but born in the USA,it clearly says he is an "American singer" and than talks about his ethnic background down the line.Now Nuno Bettencourt says Portuguese-American but Bettencourt was born in Portugal and lived their till the age of 4 or 5 that of course is a different story and calls for an multi nationality.--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Templates in templates
Sorry, I didn't now. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 21:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Glitter in the Air
Ive placed another response on the talk page. (im not aware if you are watching the talk page or not, so i figured id let you know just in case). (CK)Lakeshade ✽ talk2me 21:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

MK
I really had hopes the RFC would be a wake-up call, but now we have this. A lengthy block might be a good idea, but with me running the RFC, I did not want to formally bring this up at WP:ANI since that might look like I am going after this guy instead of trying to help him. I leave this in your court since the comment was made after your recent unblock denial. -OberRanks (talk) 16:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Libra Scale
Since you put the sock warning up, is it not correct to change the date to June 8? C T J F 8 3 pride 19:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 69.31.101.63 is from Chicago, and Brexx edits from the United Arab Emirates, so this should be fine. Thanks for checking.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing a lot of request for date changes....are these correct requests, or am I missing a guideline from WP:NSONGS C T J F 8 3  pride 19:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Can't say without looking at the invidual requests. The usual problem is that many people don't understand that the release date in the infobox is the earliest date the song became available for purchase. Sometimes the infobox is right, but people want to change it to an airplay release. Sometimes the infobox has the airplay release and people want to correct it to the sales release.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, all the requests I've fulfilled use I tunes as the source for release date, which sounds good to me. Ok, thanks, C T J F 8 3  pride 19:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Help
Hello! Could you please help me get this article : Kylie Minogue Rare and Unreleased deleted? It is of no use to Wikipedia and has no references. Thank U very much! :-) MariAna_MiMi (Talk) 21:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Page hiding
Holy crap! I just used Google to look for Hung Medien and my WP sandbox page is #2 of About 255,000 results. Yeesh! Do you know how I can hide this page? I somehow thought I was doing a quiet little test page on the down-low (the only link, until now, has been in my Contributions list), and didn't know it'd get indexed. How do I de-indexify it? Or is deleting/blanking it the only way? &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You need to add NOINDEX to the top of the page; that prevents search engines from logging it. Rodhull  andemu  23:00, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, thank you, stalker and stalkee, both. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Celine Dion
Hello Kevin, Its been quite some time, hope your doing well. I have been having a problem with an editor on the above mentioned page. I was wondering if you could take a look and tell me what you think. The issue seems to be that Baltic doesn't believe there to be a reason to update figures, and make the article more informative. Thanks-- Peter Griffin  &bull;  Talk   01:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Brx
Does ring alarm bells?  Chzz  ► 03:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't recognize him. Looks like he got blocked pretty quickly.&mdash;Kww(talk) 04:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Kww, these other accounts have also popped up:



If these are additional Brexx socks, then he may be trying to edit around the semi-protection. –MuZemike 14:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * (I came across these sper's and - after our prev discussion - I've left them for now  Chzz  ► 15:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC))


 * I don't see an editsemiprotected request for Don'tedit or Wikiminaj. No edits to talk space at all. 69.31.101.61 geolocates to Chicago, so that's unlikely to be Brexx. I'll take care of his requests sometime tomorrow: right now I'm on $10/hour internet access, so I have to prioritize.&mdash;Kww(talk) 19:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Edit the same pages of Brexx. Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C.  21:34, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Geolocate sometimes fails. According to this I live in Playa del Carmen.  Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C.  21:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * If that didn't was Brexx, could be?  Tb hotch Ta lk <sup style="color:#2C1608;">C.  22:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 86.96.228.93 is Brexx.&mdash;Kww(talk) 03:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Mariah Carey
Hello Kevin. For some reason the above mentioned page is no longer semi-protected. It has been so for as long as I'm an editor and has helped upkeep its reliability and guard from vandalism. Can you please re-add the protection? Thanks-- Peter Griffin  &bull;  Talk   23:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Flagged Protection
Hi again. Since we had some interesting discussions already, I would be very interested in your opinion on Flagged Protection. I would also encourage you to voice it in the final poll that is going to be held about its final implementation/abolition. Cheers, Janfrie1988 (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

A little help
Wikipedia is looking very weird for me. I think it's probably a glitch. Letters look too thin and images way too little. How can I make it go back to normal? -- <b style="font-family:tahoma; color:LightBlue;">ipodnano05</b> * <sup style="font-family:tahoma; color:SteelBlue;">leave@message 01:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you accidently resized the text in your browser? What happens if you press CTRL-0 (hold the Ctrl key down and press zero)? By the way, I wouldn't expect Kww to have any way to know what's happening on your computer (any more than I do), so you might be better off asking at Help desk, if it's only a problem on Wikipedia. Do you have this problem when you view other sites? (Don't answer here, try the Help desk, or ask a knowledgable friend where you are.) &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 01:43, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * JohnFromPinckney helped. It's all fixed. Thanks to both of you guys. -- <b style="font-family:tahoma; color:LightBlue;">ipodnano05</b> * <sup style="font-family:tahoma; color:SteelBlue;">leave@message 05:48, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Den Brother
I know you just deleted the page, due to it being "a recreation of a deleted page". But it will be re-created very soon anyway. All it needs is more references. I'll preside over it until more info is available. QuasyBoy (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The film is actually completed now. I saw the promo for it last night. QuasyBoy (talk) 20:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's a few references I acquired:   . Some might be fansites, But the film is set for an August release according to the latter reference. Hope these help. QuasyBoy (talk) 5:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank You, Kevin. :) QuasyBoy (talk) 5:21, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Possible Sockpuppet case
User:Samil20 has used two accounts to attempt to edit war with me and aviod WP:3R on The Darkside Vol. 1 and 2010 in hip hop music. He has used Ip address User:216.18.244.48 as his second account. I would think this would count as abusing two accounts. Just wondering since your like the best person in Wikipedia to deal with sockpuppets :). He admited that he uses both accounts here. STAT -Verse 20:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * If I may explain the situation. I do sometimes forget to login to wikipedia at work and I do some edits.  I only have one account though.  The IP address 216.18.244.48 is from my work computer.  From what I understand this is not a case of "sockpupetting", I haven't tried to create additional accounts from work and home, or any other location.  If this is a violation in any way I do apologize as it is not my intention to break any of the rules, guidelines or policies of wikipedia. My account is, and has always been, Samil20. revolutionary (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, STAT, I was not attempting to engage in an edit war with you or any other user, I was simply making constructive edits with summary explanations of why they were made. If I was trying to deceive you, or anyone else, by using two accounts why would I admit to it on your page? I was simply stating, in response to your comment, that this was not a "random IP".  revolutionary (talk) 22:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I've looked things over, and there's not much I can do except to caution you both, with a stronger caution to Samil20. Editing anonymously in combination with a named account creates a strong impression that you are cheating the system. I've looked your edits over and don't think that you have been (given your admission, and I don't see a 3RR violation), but you need to be more conscientious about logging in. STATicVerseatide's sense of frustration in that regard is understandable.
 * As for the both of you, take your issues to a talk page and talk about it. There's no need for the constant back and forth editing.&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:47, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will make sure to be more careful about logging in the future. revolutionary (talk) 23:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I was just seeing if their was any looking in it. I was concerned that he used the IP address to revert and then like an hour later after he reverted twice with the IP to revert like 2-3 more times with his regestered account. STAT -Verse 23:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Inniverse identified himself - unblocked
FYI -

After some discussion on unblock-en-l and privately with me, Inniverse identified himself and I was able to cross-verify his identity with a professional organization. This meets the normal real-world identification criteria we use to establish that someone's a real person and not another made-up sockpuppet in unblock reviews - we haven't met them in person, but we have sufficient information to establish their identity to reasonable certainty.

As I said earlier, there was nothing wrong with the presumptive sockpuppet identification - the geographical area and behavior match was reasonable. As admins we all have to acknowledge that we're acting on imperfect knowledge, and sometimes we'll have mistakes in doing so. We can neither be paralyzed with indecision in the face of compelling evidence nor be unwilling to acknowledge mistakes when they happen. You made a good call - later evidence showed something else.

I'm notifying you here, and also indicated this on his user talk page etc.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Brexx again?
Could you keep an eye on Special:Contributions/Partially730? Seems like another Brexx one from the continuous deletion of sources at the Gaga articles and introducing unsourced content and songwriter names. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 04:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)