User talk:Kww/Society of Government Meeting Professionals

Good start
Like I said, a good start. Editing it here keeps things low pressure ... if things go badly, no one swoops in and mutilates the article. Also allows us to be a bit freer on the talk page.

First thing to remember is that Wikipedia is for notable things. Things are written from the perspective that the reader is looking something up that he read about somewhere. Wikipedia is never supposed to be the first place that a person encounters something.

So, bearing that in mind, can you find a list of, say, five references that talk about SGMP? Not about members, but talk directly about SGMP itself? Post links to them here, and we'll go over what parts of them can go in the article.Kww (talk) 13:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you so much. I'm going to do research when I get home, their annual conference is coming up very soon. Without the SGMP, it would be hard for the federal government to conduct a lot of their functions. I first found wikipedia trying to find out some information about Tina Turner, I was doing some research about how women can over come being in an abusive relationship. and her wikipedia article was the first thing that popped up when I did a search on YahooKnicksfan4ever (talk) 17:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Having a hard time finding references besides the seperate chapter websites (there are quite a few). Would these count as references?Knicksfan4ever (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not good ones, and they aren't enough to build an article on. You need to find sources that qualify for WP:RS. It's important that they are written by people outside the organization about the organization. If no one outside the organization thinks they are important enough to write about, they aren't important enough to have an article in Wikipedia. Good articles about an individual chapter are OK, though.Kww (talk) 23:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, still searching because I think maybe this would be a good source. They conduct a lot of their own events. I also want to do a page on Matthew Jordan Smith  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knicksfan4ever (talk • contribs) 00:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Matthew Jordan Smith certainly seems to meet the requirements for WP:NOTABILITY, so you should be able to find good references on him. BTW, notice how my answers are always indented to your question? That's because I start them with a ":". If you reply to a comment, you should always start with one more ":" than that comment had. Kww (talk) 01:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I will start the research. After next week I will have more time to devote to this. I travel quite a bit as well. I had a couple of downtime days. Should I create a user page like this one as well? How long have you been on Wikipedia?Knicksfan4ever (talk) 01:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been editing about a year. Yes, you should put it at User:Knickfan4ever/Matthew_Jordan_Smith. That way, we can get the sources and references straightened out before we put it out for public review.Kww (talk) 02:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, glad you're here to help. If I'm not on for a few days that means I'm tied up with work, not that I forgot about the projects. I've started the page, here it is . Just started with a beginning lineKnicksfan4ever (talk) 03:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey added some items to this page . Let me know what you think. I'm sure it needs some formatting, just not sure how to do it. ThanksKnicksfan4ever 21:16, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We should talk about that article on that article's talk page.Kww 21:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)