User talk:Kyapghia

Idea4Idea
Hello!. First of all, Sorry to hear about the losses in your families and let me offer my condolences.

As far as the issues surrounding the article, as you say I've just follow the vote. Now as for the reasons for the deletion, I've checked the article in question and noticed that two-thirds of the article - so basically what is not in the lead section - is used to promote the concept or looks more written like a research project or a guide or something with does not comply with the Wikipedia policies per WP:NOT.

You can ask me to send you a copy of the deleted article onto a userspace page in order to improve the article so it can pass notability and then after the improvements it can go to review. Maybe you can use those references (looks like magazines scientific articles for the most part) in order to improve it perhaps if there are stuff found in books as well. Only with the websites accessible from Google, I would be quite tough to do it since the vast majority of the returns are not reliable sources, I've seen some links to videos, YouTube, MySpace, other Wiki sites, Wikipedia itself, sites in foreign language, promotional pages, etc. So only with the Internet and 45 Google returns it would be very difficult, so books and published articles would be the key factor to help the article to pass WP:N.

I'm not familiar with the subject or term but if there is no possibility of meeting notability guidelines but if there is the need to mention it somewhere you can ask members on the related wikiprojects on where to put (if it is not there already). Not sure if it is in scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Education or Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychology (probably more likely the latter one or could be both, I'm not sure). But the W. Edwards Deming article could be one possibility if so..

Now as for your reference for the Tiguan, I don't see any notability policies in regards to automobiles specifically related to them, but I think basically all vehicules in circulation/on the road are notable even if are not that popular - I haven't heard really much of that vehicle in question since it is only the road since 2008. Often those vehicules have various reports or publications from many sources. Upcoming articles on cars may have already articles because there is enough non-speculative content with reliable sources.

I will add those guide links as well.


 * Community Portal
 * The Five Pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page
 * Editing tutorial
 * Picture tutorial
 * How to write a great article
 * Naming conventions
 * Manual of Style
 * Village pump

Thanks!-- JForget 18:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You can do the improvements at any time and ask for a review at any time you want. It will stay as a userspace article until you request its deletion otherwise it can remained forever (unless there is some sort of mass-cleanup that will happen one day in the long range - although I may doubt). If it happens to be restored, that is via an admin action, the edit history should be restored. The Afd discussion is stored at Articles for deletion/Idea4Idea and if there is a deletion review, I think it is also archived in a log page per date such as Deletion review/Log/2008 March 21 - they have kept those as far as 2006.

After you've made the changes, you can show me the improvements, although since I'm less familiar with the term, I don't really know if it is really notable (judging by the fact also I don't have access to many good sources) if I put the article back I'm quite sure many will contest this and they will come with probably the sources and notability issues. That's why probably the input of editors more familiar on the subject would be needed thus it would have to go to WP:DRV. Now I know there are users that are mostly involved in deletion discussions/deletion review discussions and they will vote based on technical issues.

As far as WikiHow, if a guide-like article is written or it may be impossible to build an article that would meet guidelines, it can be proposed to be transwikied there (or a new article created there) - you can ask any members of the WikiProjects if it can be transwikied - or simply create a page there. I have not visited that site really much but I have deleted tons of articles that were written like how-to-do instruction guides and that would certainly earn there place there. Quite frankly I prefer myself refraining on creating multiple accounts on multiple Wikias. JForget 02:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the good information. I appreciate the clarifications. I will work on the article in my userspace. I think this will work out well. Kyapghia (talk) 02:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)Kyapghia

Hello again JForget. Did you place a copy of the deleted article yet in my Userspace? I can't find it. Please let me know. Thanks.

Kyapghia (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2008 (UTC)Kyapghia


 * Oops sorry, I've thought I've left a link in the talk page - I guess not. Anyways, Here's the the link to the sub-userpage article, I've also left a link in your userpage page as well. I usually create a separate page for userfied articles rather using the main userpage - which is better. JForget  16:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)