User talk:Kylefummey

Welcome!
Hello, Kylefummey, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Stop The Rain (band), which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
 * The plain and simple conflict of interest guide
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Contributing to Wikipedia
 * Tutorial
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
 * Simplified Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! ɯ ɐ ɔ 💬 19:32, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Help request
I understand that I have made a Wikipedia page for a band in which I am involved in. I feel like I made it as neutral as possible but don't want to be left with nothing if it is removed, how do I save it? Kylefummey (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * , the simplest answer to "how do I save it?" is to create a new page, either as a draft or in your user space, and move your text there. You can create either draft:Stop The Rain (band) or user:Kylefummey/sandbox/Stop The Rain (band) and work on your content there.  Note that the conflict of interest guidelines still apply either way, however.  Please understand that it is not unusual for new users to join Wikipedia and try to create an article concerning a subject they involved with.  In point of fact, it is how a great number of established editors and administrators started.  The community rarely tries to actively drive off new users.


 * That said, it is undoubtedly frustrating for new users to read "Anyone can edit" as a promise from the site, and then be told over and over again that their edits are not wanted. That's not exactly what's happening, but I know that's what it feels like.


 * The basic issue is this: Wikipedia has, over the course of many discussions, reached two decisions that affect you personally: 1) People directly connected to an article's subject should not be the ones to make the biggest contributions to that article and 2) There need to be significant, independent, verifiable sources to each claim an article makes. There are good reasons for this site to have made those decisions, but they can easily feel discriminatory to those caught against them.


 * I suggest you might want to request another editor to create the article for you.
 * Click This Link.
 * Click the link in the Table of Contents for the category of article you would like created.
 * Click the link for the the section heading that most closely applies to your article.
 * Hold down the Shift and Alt keys and hit the "E" key (this brings up the edit window).
 * Find a blank space under the subsection heading you think is applicable. These are set off from the main text by rows of equal signs on either side. For example the "North America" subsection heading for "History" looks like this: ==North America==
 * Start a new request with a blank line.
 * Type *.
 * Add more information about your band, why it matters, and whatever links about the article you can supply. Note that there are standards of what subjects are "notable" enough for inclusion and anything you can do to indicate your subject meets those standards will be helpful.
 * Finish your posting by typing four tilde characters in a row to sign your post. Like this: ~
 * Below the main text box is a smaller one that has the label "Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)". Type something like: "requesting new article about the Scottish band Stop the Rain"
 * Click "Show Preview" to make sure it looks good.
 * Scroll all the way back down to the bottom where you will see the edit window again.
 * Make any changes necessary
 * Click "Save Changes"


 * I can't guarantee that this will get your article created, but it may be your best shot. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:18, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Kylefummey. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about in the article Stop The Rain (band), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
 * instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the request edit template);
 * when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or to the website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies.

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. agt x 20:26, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Stop The Rain (band) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Stop The Rain (band) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Stop The Rain (band) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. agt x 20:32, 6 September 2017 (UTC)