User talk:Kyrelia54

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is invited to contribute, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Michael Gove, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. JRPG (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

June 2012
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Dinesh D&. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Evil saltine (talk) 08:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It is worth noting whether he won the debates or not. Most celebrity's pages aren't so thorough as this one - they tend only to include successful media appearances. Obviously, people can follow the links to see the debates if their access to Youtube and such are not censored by their local governments, but which is more true to Wikipedia's mission: informing them up front, expecting them to take extra time and follow the links, or just not including so many debates that the scholar in question failed at. (If you ask me, the lastmost of those options conforms best to Relevance.)


 * I followed the link to the Hitchens debate some time ago, but it was memorable enough for me to recall right now that he did resoundingly lose. Since this is also not D'Souza's page, I feel I can freely admit that I found his tactics disturbingly cheap. My impression of the debate was that these Ivy League and other upper-tier schools, with better reputations than D'Souza's own The King's College (New York) - even its name seems like it was meant to confuse people attempting to apply to Columbia - only invite him to debate because he is such a flagrantly controversial figure. They are not taking him seriously and his lack of intellectual dignity is shown up by his acceptance of such invitations, just as his lack of intellectual integrity is shown up by his publication of a whole slew of disingenuous, fear-mongering books. What makes a man turn neutral? (talk) 12:52, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * How he performed in the debates is worth knowing, but it would need to be worded something like "Notable experts X, Y, and Z said that D'Souza lost the debate." Evil saltine (talk) 02:51, 7 July 2012 (UTC)