User talk:Kyrpap

Please stop replacing "Byzantine" with "Roman" in the Palaiologos article. You are violating Wikipedia policies by doing so: "Byzantine" is the common appellation for the medieval Roman empire, recognizable and used by the relevant scholarship. The political and cultural descent is amply evidenced in the relevant articles. This is neither the place nor the proper method for pushing for the "truth" of the Roman-ness of Byzantine emperors to be pursued. By indiscriminately changing "Byzantine" into "Roman" you also destroy several internal links, which makes your editing harmful to the quality of the article. When in dispute with several editors, please use the article talk page instead of blindly reverting. Be advised that you are nearing a breach of WP:3RR, which could see you blocked. Constantine  ✍  13:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Palaiologos. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 13:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Ι strongly disagree. Even in the Medal that you have placed, from John V Palaeologus, it says that he is the King of the Romans. In the medieval manuscripts the Kings and the people of the Empire (based in Constantinople) called themselves Romans, not "Byzantines", a disorientating word that came from German Scholars of the 16th century. In addition, the today's Orthodox peoples, in the Balkan region, are still calling themselves Ρωμαίοι/Romani/Rum, which proves, together with the manuscripts and the archaeological evidence, that the Kingdoms of the Franks (starting from Charlemagne) baptized the Romans as "Greeks" (and later "Byzantines"), claiming all Roman Heritage.

You _should_ at least refer to this dispute. You action is _nonscientific_, and if you wish, we can bring this issue to the Wikipedia.

ALL the Palaeologans called themselves Romans. Go to the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae, and see the digitized manuscripts. It is _not scientific_ not to mention this even in a single sentence, in the beginning.

In addition, it is NOT all the scientific world which accepts the inaccurate word "Byzantium" for Romanity.


 * We are all aware of the Byzantine/Roman issue. As I explained above, your method towards "correcting" it is not the appropriate one. Please go and read the many discussions on this issue at Talk:Byzantine Empire. In short, per WP:COMMONNAME and as it is, for better or worse, the most widely-used scientific terminology, "Byzantine" is going to be used until such time as this usage changes. Wikipedia is not the place to launch a crusade for one version or the other. Constantine  ✍  14:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)