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Australian Touring Car Championship
You do know that V8 Supercar do not actually have the power to change race results years after a race takes place? They can issue as many press releases as they like, but changing of race results requires protests of existing result to CAMS then the judicial process kicks in. Skaife has not won 39 rounds, V8 Supercar just like to say he has. --Falcadore (talk) 21:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

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There is now an AFD page running at Articles for deletion/2009 V8 Supercar season (2nd nomination), for which I'm sure you'd like to contribute. --Falcadore (talk) 09:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Referencing
I don't think you understand how to do referencing. For some pointers, I'd recommend leaving through WP:CITE and WP:V. But specifically, don't use website front pages for reference purposes. The linking URL should go straight to the item being referenced. Looking at the Mark Skaife refence you've just added, if you follow the link it goes to V8 Supercar's front page http://www.v8supercar.com.au/, on which there are no details about Mark Skaife's family. However on the web page you do want to reference is http://www.v8supercar.com.au/drivers/DriverDetails.asp?ind=&DID=197, which is Mark Skaife's profile page within the V8 Supercar website. --Falcadore (talk) 07:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

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Wikilinking racing drivers
Note your adding a bunch of new articles, but some of the race drivers links are pointing to footballers and other people. Just placing the square brackets around a drivers name does not always link to the page you want. If you look att the category:Australian racecar drivers it contains the list of Australian racing drivers pages as they appear on wikipedia. If you link it right the first time, it's less work for other editors. Please check the links on the Queensland 500 page please, and also note that the Queensland 500 is still an active race, just no longer for V8 Supercars. --Falcadore (talk) 02:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

V8 Supercar support categories
Just a question, but what exactly is the point of this category? The problem I see is ALL Australian categories have been V8 Supercar supports. There is nothing to be achieved with it. --Falcadore (talk) 13:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Ferrari 246T link
Might want to check that. Don't think it's what you had in mind. --Falcadore (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, maybe I should've checked the links before saving, thanks. I just changed the link to the appropiate one, Ferrari 246 F1. Thanks again, Kytabu (talk) 09:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No that one is wrong as well. From reading the article you can see the 246 F1 is actually a 1950's front-engined Formula 1 car. The 246T was based on the then current rear-engined Formula 2 car with a sports car racing engine of which there is no corresponding article. --Falcadore (talk) 10:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, I don't know too much about Tasman Series or F1 cars, to be honest. Do you want me to just remove the link altogether? Kytabu (talk) 05:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I saw you removed it already thanks. I followed your lead and changed the link on the 1969 Tasman Series article as well. Kytabu (talk) 05:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

ATCC points
Open class: 13-9-6-4-2-1 2 litre class: 9-6-4-2-1

That's not how the points worked. Points were awarded 4-3-2-1 for the first four race positions. 9-6-4-3-2-1 was then awarded for the top 6 positions in each class. Because the over 2 litre class almost always filled the top 4 spots it gives the impressions of 13 (9+4), 9 (6+3), 6 (4+2), 4 (3+1), 2, 1, but that was not always the case as several times a U2 car slipped into fourth, and on very rare occasion into third. --Falcadore (talk) 05:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks, I have changed the article now. On the website I got the info from, it just had the points scored for each driver at each round, but nothing about how the points were awarded. - Kytabu (talk) 06:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And people say that you will never use high-school algebra again. --Falcadore (talk) 06:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

1999 Queensland 500
Please use the existing race format for V8 enduro races - as seen at 1999 Bathurst 1000, it saves someone else re-doing the page later. Also at the same pages you get a better idea of what the driver pairings are so you won't have to use initials. Also, it should be pointed out pointed that D.Parsons and S.Parsons, are the two drivers both called David John Parsons. 'Skippy' is the S.Parsons. The senior driver of the pairing is David 'Truckie' Parsons and 'Truckie' did the top ten lap. --Falcadore (talk) 09:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Forums as sources
Because internet forums, like V8Central, are basically regurgitating the words of others, or is just flat out speculation and pseudo-truth, they are not acceptable for use as a source. Have a read of Verifiability. --Falcadore (talk) 04:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm aware that forums aren't an acceptable source, but I couldn't find the original version of that news story. Kytabu Talk 05:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Then the question has to be asked, how do you know it wasn't faked? Verifiability please. --Falcadore (talk) 05:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it has been confirmed on the V8 Supercar website now as per this link - Kytabu Talk 08:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Homebush 1.jpg
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 * Ey, I uploaded a new version without the satellite image...doesn't matter if the old one gets deleted now... - Kytabu Talk 08:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Warwick Farm image
Do you mind if I make a rotated version of your Warwick Farm track map? If you have a look here the track map gets blown upwards substantially in portrait format, a landscape version will sit much happier. --Falcadore (talk) 04:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, go for it mate. - Kytabu Talk 11:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

BJR third car
Removed Karl Reindler from the V8 Supercar because because its unconfirmed (even your source said so) and is in trouble as the team have lost Reindler's car's major sponsor in Wilson Security. --Falcadore (talk) 02:10, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

ATCC rounds
How do you propose to count rounds then? --Falcadore (talk) 06:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Last year there was 14 rounds this year there were 26. It was V8 upercar's decision to make. There is not a single verifiable reason to combine points of Saturday and Sunday race points. Much as you might disagree you can't make up your own criteria. --Falcadore (talk) 06:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There were 14 rounds this year and 26 indivdual races. V8 Supercars have said that they will continue recording overall point scores for each weekend incase they go back to the old system of rounds. That is why they've changed the winning drivers list on their site from round wins to race wins, because each individual race in 2009 DID NOT count as a round win, but as a race win.


 * From the V8 Supercar site:
 * In the 2009 V8 Supercar Championship Series, there will be no event (formerly round) winner acknowledged. Each race will be its own entity with its own podium ceremony. Therefore only race winners will be acknowledged, rather than the previous system of round winners. In keeping with the relevance of statistics to the 2009 season, ‘race’ wins be referred to.


 * "V8 Supercars Australia statisticians will continue to keep count of ‘event’ winners as per the previous system as a fallback should the rules change in the future and the old system ever be required again. However, ‘race wins’ is the relevant milestone figure for the V8 Supercar Championship Series in its current guise. It should also be noted that each ‘race’ in 2009 does not constitute what was previously known as a ‘round’ of the championship."


 * Oh, and NatSoft is keeping records of the overall point scores for each round, so the fans don't have to calculate it themselves :-). So, I propose changing the number of rounds won by each driver back to how I had it, or we change it to race wins, not round wins. - Kytabu Talk 03:02, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, that's a right bloody mess of wanting to have the cake and eat it too. Do you mind providing the link but this is not how V8 Supercar was reporting this when the rule changes were announced last year. --Falcadore (talk) 10:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I additionally note that V8 Supercar seem to have altered the emphasis to 'race wins' rather than 'round' wins. Perhaps we should follow suit with the V8 articles? --Falcadore (talk) 10:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Link: . I think change the list in article to race wins... - Kytabu Talk 12:11, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Steve Owen
Your cited reference article states these two yet to be announced drviers. By Speedcafe's own admission it's speculation. That story was removed previously as being speculation, so it's removed again. I personally believe that Owen is joinging the Supercheap team next year, but belief is not enough. Wait for the team to announce. It would not be the first time that particular team had started false rumours or had a last minute change of mind. --Falcadore (talk) 08:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe I should get some more sleep before I start reading articles :). Didn't read the bit that said 'yet to be announced', sorry about that. - Kytabu Talk 12:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

V8 Touring Car National Series
Did you check your links before saving? Have a look what Sports Sedans links too. --Falcadore (talk) 22:13, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Kelly Racing
I placed this article a while ago in my sandbox and have been editing it whenever I can. I've fixed up the dead links and some of the grammar issues within the article. If you want, you can take a look at it and see if it's appropriate. Take the content if you need to. I really don't know whether it's up to standards. My Sandbox.

Rocketsniper210 (talk) 09:33, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I might grab your team structure section and add that to the article with a few minor changes (I was considering merging the two Kelly Racing cars under one heading). If you want to fix up any dead links in the actual article feel free to do so, I just copied and pasted the references which were already there. I'm tossing up whether or not to delete the 'driver roll call' section; all the drivers are mentioned in the team's history but it does provide a good summary of the drivers. Kytabu Talk 13:21, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok. I've added the team structure part to the article now. Edit to your liking. I've fixed up the dead links and added some where needed. The driver roll call section needs to be reformatted. The "Endurance Only" drivers are just a list of Co-drivers in the team. That could be changed. 2011 section could be rethought a bit. Otherwise, the article looks fine. I will keep this article in my sandbox to refine the 2011 section as the season goes on. Rocketsniper210 (talk) 04:56, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

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V8 Supercar images
Hey Kytabu,

I saw the images you uploaded onto the 2013 International V8 Supercars Championship. They're exactly what I think the article needed - the last few were messy and poorly-shot, but these images look great.

I'm wondering, though, if you wouldn't happen to have one of the Triple Eight Commodore (preferably of Whincup, but Lowndes will do if that's all you've got). As Triple Eight are the defending teams' champions, and since Whincup is driving for them, I'd like to include an image of his car under his picture in the article lead. If you don't have one, that's fine; it's not essential. But if you do happen to have one (especially if it is from a different angle to the other four), I think it will work very well. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 02:07, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey, I've uploaded a photo of the two Triple Eight Commodores together on the track: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Bull_Racing_Australia_V8_Supercar_Test_2013.jpg. You can add it to the article as you'd like. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:black;">Talk 03:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 04:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Mount Panorama Circuit
Can you please put the references to the lap record back in? Shouldn't delete references/ Thank you. --Falcadore (talk) 10:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * None of the NatSoft links work anymore which is why I deleted them (well, they work, but go to the results home page). Even if I copy and paste a new link in it still won't work. I had the same trouble on the V8s AGP page. I've put the Sports Sedan reference back in, though. What do you suggest happens in relation to NatSoft links? <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 11:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You could use the deadurl criteria in Cite Web template. It's what it's there for. --Falcadore (talk) 04:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't know about that, thank you! <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 06:28, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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2013 ITM 400 Auckland
What with the extra zeros? 00:39:54.9225 Why indicate hours if there are none? You planning to add how many days or years as well? --Falcadore (talk) 04:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd continued the trend from the Symmons Plains page (someone had put the zeros in for the Race 2 results there so I just continued it). I'll remove all of them now. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 07:14, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Barbagallo Raceway lap record
Why would you think Gary West's Lola is a Formula 3? --Falcadore (talk) 17:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not that I think that, it was because I copied the table over from another circuit's page and must've overlooked it. Can you please change it to the correct category? <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 00:57, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I found the correct category. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 10:37, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No you haven't, as the car is not a Formula 3000 either. Formula Libre most likelybut... the lap record you've picked upon was not set in a race but in a one-on-one sprint against a Falcon street car as stupid as it sounds. Hopefully that link works. Let me know if it does not. The record sited previously was from a race. Let me know if you think a sprint lap should be considered valid. --Falcadore (talk) 06:37, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems I've gotten all mixed up with everything in relation to this. I've put the previous record from the race back in (and changed the short circuit record to one set that same weekend). Hopefully the article is okay now. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 06:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

2013 V8 calendar
Maybe just the report column. When you start showing the individual races and the dates for each of them, the table itself blows out, and that's what I was trying to avoid. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm experimenting with that. Check the "Seasion review" section. I modelled it on the 2013 WRC season page.


 * Also, I think the "details" column in the key isn't necesasry. The days the races are held don't matter; the format - be it one race, two races or three - is the important part. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Falcadore can complain all he likes. I've seen what he he has put forward as a season summary on other pages, and to be brutally honest, it was terrible. He hasn't seen fit to address any of the issues with it, and until such time as he does, then I'm just going to keep going the way I have been, because I know it's better than what he produced with that write-up. If you want to change the "season report" section to "event summaries", then that's fine by me. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 10:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Wait for more feedback. I'm expecting Falcadore to shoot it down the moment he sees it. He's already been less than impressed with me for the way I updated the article to include details of the Auckland races (never mind that the page was out of date). There's no sense in going through an updating the other season articles if he's just going to disapprove of it, because updating the other articles will do nothing to assuage his doubts over it.


 * Maybe I'm being unfair on him, and I probably shouldn't be so unflattering about it. But I've found that of late he tends to dominate discussions, and you have to convince him that a change is needed to make it stick - even if you've convinced everyone else. I'm in no mood to deal with that right now. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 10:31, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Then talk to me Prisonermonkeys. Make me understand what the problem is. Don't be snide, talk to me, work with. You've been so dismissive in recent times, of many peoples works, not just mine, so I've not known how to talk to you anymore. I've stepped back quite a bit over the last few months whether you've noticed or not.
 * It does however seems silly to have a 'Season review' and then write something completely different to what is described, so why is one race at a time superior? --Falcadore (talk) 06:28, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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V8 Supercar results box
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V8 Supercar support categories
V8 Supercar support categories is a rather pointless category. Pretty much EVERY national series has supported V8 Supercar at one point or another. From historic Formula 1 and Formula 5000, Australian Superkart Championship, Historic Group N touring cars, Formula 3, Formula Ford, Aussie Racing Cars, Australian Production Car Championship, it's offshoots Nations Cup, GT-Production, Performance Cars, Australian GT Championship, Carrera Cup Australia, Saloon Car National Series, Historic Group A and Group C, Touring Car Masters, V8 Utes, Super touring once, Australian Mini Challenge, Sports Racer Series, Suzuki Swift Series.

If ALL of them are support categories, what is the point of the template? --Falcadore (talk) 03:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You told me this a few years ago (when I first made the template), but I think changing it to current V8 Supercar support categories is okay. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 03:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You also know that support categories at V8 Supercar events are arranged by the event promotors, and not by V8 Supercar? Also, apart from racing on the same day, what connection to they have to V8 Supercar beyond that? There should be something other than co-incidence to define it. I guess what I'm saying, and said above, is what is the point of the template, what does it demonstrate beyond trivia? --Falcadore (talk) 04:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I see what you're saying but I think it's a good idea to have some sort of link between the categories. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 04:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * But there is no link. --Falcadore (talk) 04:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, let me try it this way - imagine someone sees one of the support categories briefly on TV and decides to read up on it and then wonders what other categories support the V8s. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 04:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * As mentioned previously, easier to label which categories have not been V8 Supercar supports. In the instance you mention it would actually make more sense to cover support categories on the race article pages rather than to V8 Supercar itself, which makes more sense as in most case indivdual race promotors negotaite the support categories. Additionally under the example you mention, you don't mention "state" level categories but you've highlighted an Aerican Porsche category that was not on TV. The TV example does not reflect the content of the template. --Falcadore (talk) 06:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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Red Bull Ring = Returning or New?
Should the Red Bull Ring be listed as a "New" track or a "Returning" one? Because the Austrian GP was help on the same track before but just under a different name, I've listed it under new but that's just my opinion, What's yours? Daniels Renault Sport (talk) 15:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I would list it as returning as the circuit layout is still the same. Similar to the V8 Supercars returning to Sydney Motorsport Park in 2012 even though it was called Eastern Creek Raceway the last time they raced there in 2008. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 00:31, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Triple Crown of Australian motorsport
Are you sure? I can't say I've ever heard of that definition before. I vaguely remember it being used when Skaife won Bathurst, Gold Star and ATCC in the same year but I've never heard it consistently applied for any combination of events. You have a second source apart from the ABC story? --Falcadore (talk) 01:59, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Last lap of the 1996 Bathurst coverage, Mark Oastler says something along the lines of "He's [Lowndes] only the second man to win the Triple Crown, the other being illustrious team-mate Peter Brock in 1978 and 1980".<sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 07:33, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Scrap that, doesn't actually say Triple Crown. I have heard it used elsewhere but can't find any sources.<sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 07:35, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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As you can see from the Library's project page, they have connected this editathon with their own work. They have already set out a wide range of resources to make things easier for us. Please sign up on the editathon project page if you can participate either online or in person with other Wikipedians. Hope to see you there! Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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Template:V8 Supercar Teams
It's all very well continuing to update this template, but you are only doing half the work if you are not updating the destination pages as well. --Falcadore (talk) 05:51, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I did update Tasmania, Pukekohe, Townsville and Phillip Island? <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 05:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No. I mean removing the template from the pages of retired drivers and disbanded teams. --Falcadore (talk) 06:10, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. I didn't even think about that, I was only editing the event links after Prisonermonkeys added the template to the 2014 season page and I saw the red links. <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 06:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, my bad. Someone else I need to talk to then. Apologies :P --Falcadore (talk) 06:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice work
As above. --Falcadore (talk) 07:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you!
Thank you for fixing the sort function on my table! I had tried adding the "data-sort-value" to it, but I obviously didn't do it right. This was exactly the function I was looking for when I made the table. I was going to respond in the talk page, but it seems to have gotten quite busy since I left the house, so I decided to thank you here instead.

Again, thank you. JohnMcButts (talk) 00:00, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * No problems. Just a quick copy and paste from one of the help pages! :D <sup style="color:red;">Kytabu <sub style="color:blue;">Talk 00:40, 29 January 2013

Fixing the sortable table
I'm taking a break from the discussion (see Bretonbanquet's talk page), and so I'm not going to write anything on the 2014 season talk page. But I have developed a way to fix your new table for mobile users. It involves putting non-breaking spaces in at least the driver column (or maybe over the whole table). Should, in theory, fix it for mobile users like Prisonermonkeys. — Gyaro –  Maguus — 08:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't have time to edit like that for at least nine hours (when my exam is over). I will happily make my ideas come to fruition then. — Gyaro –  Maguus — 09:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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You are my clone
If I didn't know better I'd say you were me. If you're still at UOW, drop by upstairs in bld 11 sometime and ask the guys at the card tables for the motorsport nut, I'm sure most of them will know who you mean. I'm at uni mon, tues and fri. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.37.143 (talk) 09:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Results matrices
Hi Kytabu,

Technically, you are right: the  bgcolor=  wiki mark-up does still work. However, the mobile site has been updated recently, and that mark-up no longer works. I have been advised by VPT that the mark-up  style="background-color:#XXXXXX"  will work for both regular and mobile browsers. From what I have seen so far, this is correct.

However, I cannot get the white font on black background to work in both the results matrices and the legend templates. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 08:40, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * That's okay. I typically stay away from mark-up if I can avoid it, so if I do do it - and both those tables took me an hour, since I have to go line-by-line - it's not just for the hell of it.


 * Thanks for sorting out the DSQ, too. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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Australian motorsport vehicles
There is a discussion at WikiProject Motorsport you may or may not have an opinion on. V7867 (talk) 17:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)