User talk:LAz17/Archive 2

Nationalism Is Harmful
Go look at that template again. I think you'll be pleased. DS (talk) 05:06, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * yay. :) (LAz17 (talk) 17:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * Zasto crni Lazo prihvati tu medalju kvazi "drzave"... sta bi? Mozda nisam dobor upucen :) Onyxig (talk) 19:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Vsyo haraso ko sto bi rusili kazali... stvar je da medalja nema veze sa icim... ima samo veze sa tim da sam mnogo uredjivo na temama u vezi sa kosmetom. To je tako neka vrsta priznanja da sam uradijo neku dobru ulogu na vikipediji. Mislim hej, nesmeta a da bude stvar gora, ovi neznaju ni sta rade mozda... ja sam samo popravljo srpske stvari tamo(nije bas srpsko, nego samo generalna informacija, i to jebiga nesmeta nikome, osim sto se po populaciji vidi veliki porastaj albanaca u municipalitetima)... ali i ujedno oni to uvazavaju i ako ce da mi daju nesto sto se ceni na vikipediji, onda sto da ne. Nadam se da je sad teze da se neki zale na mene. Nesmeta, a mozda ce da zezne nekog. (LAz17 (talk) 20:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * Ma razumem jebiga sta ces malo sma zezo :) Znam vredi dobiti edit nagradu neku dobijes veci respect. Mozda onda nekad i izadjes na kraj sa zajebantima. Evo bas sam producera report za 3rr, pa videcemo sta bude. Kad se sve smiri oko toga malo cemo reconstruct article. Pokusacu da dodam neke sekcije o gradovima, nosnji, obicajima itd. Onyxig (talk) 20:26, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Pozdrav Lazo
Sta se radi. Video sam onaj Dodik video. Davno sam ga gleadao kad je gostovao u tom dnevniku. Jebiga mogo se malo vise braniti. Evo ban su me nedelju dana zbog mog dobrog prijatelja PRODUCERA. Ali cova je vec nazad i sere po RS stranici ko po obicaju. Tesko se lece kompleksi, ne damu se dalje od srba. Cujemo se. Onyxig (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Ma malo sam zauzet ovi dana. Mnogo moram da citam za ispite. Jebiga. (LAz17 (talk) 03:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * Srecno na ispitima, zajebano je sad ali isplatice ti se kasnije. :) Onyxig (talk) 16:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hej, ima novosti... gledam avaz ponekad, da vidim sta se prica tamo. Ipak, vidi ovo... http://www.dnevniavaz.ba/dogadjaji/aktuelno/na-ivici-gladi-oko-40-posto-gradjana - [quote]Prosječan budžet četveročlane porodice u BiH trebao bi biti 1.651 KM, ali u FBiH iznosi 771, u RS 819...[/quote] (LAz17 (talk) 17:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * Looks like we gotta talk in English. Interesting info. Thanks for adding it to RS article. Doesn't look too good over there in general. People are barely getting by. Onyxig (talk) 20:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Mozemo da govorimo srpski na nasim talk pageovima, al ne na talk pageovima od clankova vikipedije. :) (LAz17 (talk) 19:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * To sam i mislio ali pogledaj sta je AGreen napisao ispod. Nebi trebalo da ima veze :) Onyxig (talk) 21:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well darn. This sucks man. Linguistic persecution. Still, I'll look into personal talk pages. Meh. (LAz17 (talk) 18:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * You can look into whatever you like. This is the English Wikipedia and you should communicate in English at all times here. As for linguistic persecution, well, if that is your attitude, maybe Serbian Wikipedia is a better place for you. If you use Serbian or any other language on your talk pages or anywhere else again, I'll be very happy to refer the matter to AN/I. The issue has come up several times, and the result has always been the same. Your call. AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I asked them to warn you regarding your threats about personal discussion on my page. Some things that we talk about have nothing to do with wikipedia. Regards, (LAz17 (talk) 04:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)).
 * If you carry on in this vein, your career at en:wiki will be short but turbulent. I'll be watching with great interest ;-)AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 00:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

*

 * Hi LAz17, per TALK, please refrain from using other languages in talk page posts. Remember that this is the English Wikipedia. Many thanks, AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 22:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry amigo mio. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=272656120&oldid=272655926 (LAz17 (talk) 16:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)). Now then, whatever we do, be it intimate homosexual love making or a casual hi, it's not your business. (LAz17 (talk) 16:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)).

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Bosna
Looks like your hopes of a third entity are down the drain, not mention dodiks may be slapped with corruption charges. Sorry to disappoint you but what can you do when you have such an incompetent idiot for a leader. PRODUCER (talk) 17:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The HDZ wants a third entity, as do most croat people. Don't worry, soon Komsic, a bosniak, will be removed from power. Come new elections, the muslim votes won't count for croat candidates, and the HDZ will be united next time, not divided. It is a shame that you support the quiet cultural genocide on the croats. Oh, and btw, R.S. is not going away. Cheers. (LAz17 (talk) 16:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)).


 * Yes its somehow a shame that I don't support ethnic segregation. Even the bosnian croats are criticizing their own for this nonsense. As for the RS its just going to go down hill from here. PRODUCER (talk) 19:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It looks like that is some guy from Posavina, and croats from there would criticize any agreement which leaves them as losers- but they're losers in any case, the ones from posavina.
 * I do not see what you mean by R.S. going downhill. Is this one of your fantasies? People have been saying this for years. R.S. is here to stay, and it's not going away. Now, we know that you are biased and would like to see it go, but things that we want to do not always happen. Sorry. (LAz17 (talk) 18:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)).

Re. your comment
If you ever come onto my talk page or that of any other user with threats of that nature, your account will be blocked under WP:CIVIL. The article was a single sentence and an infobox. These kinds of things get deleted all the time. If you're looking to add content, I will gladly revert the deletion. Next time, ask nicely. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There. It's done.  Like I said, please ask nicely next time.  Works much better for all involved and it only takes a moment to replace content.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:04, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Image help
You seem to be a fairly fruitful ex-yu map creator. Could you please create a map of the Neum dispute for the article Bosnia and Herzegovina–Croatia relations? —Admiral Norton (talk) 20:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sori, dugo nisam bio za kompjuterom. Treba mi karta koja bi prikazala područje Neuma i Pelješkog mosta s državnim granicama i naznačenim polutokom Klekom i otočićima Mali i Veliki Škoj (fakat su maleni, nemaš ih na svim kartama). Ukratko, treba mi nešto tipa, ali tako da se vidi čitava bh. obala. —Admiral Norton (talk) 16:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

problem with pec
Why are you putting back those old false figures that allude that there is 170,000 people in the pec municipality??? Go to page eight here, http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PDACL544.pdf ,and we see the other estimates on the wiki page, it is totally ridiculous to say that their population in the municipality doubled in a couple years. Wtf?????? Just ask yourself where the logic is, it most certainly is not with the numbers there. (LAz17 (talk) 22:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)).


 * Hi LAz17. I restored the ca. 170,000 figure because it is the one mentioned in the reference used (the OSCE Mission in Kosovo's Municipal profile of Peć, of March 2009). I added that figure in November 2008, using as reference the April 2008 municipal profile, which gave the same figure.


 * You provide above a Catholic Relief Services' report of the Youth Securing the Future project (. pdf document), from ca. February 2008, which gives a different figure of 91,112 inhabitants, based on an OSCE municipal profile of 2005. – I don't know what this difference means, but I note two points:
 * The Catholic Relief Services' report & our article on Peć rely on numbers from the same organization: the OSCE Mission in Kosovo (more specifically, both rely on the OSCE's municipal profiles).
 * The Catholic Relief Services' report uses OSCE data from 2005, while our article uses OSCE data from April 2008 & March 2009.


 * I can imagine four different explanations for this significative discrepancy of 91,000 vs. 170,000:
 * The municipality's population almost doubled in three years.
 * The OSCE made a mistake either in their 2005 municipal profile, or in both their April 2008 & March 2009 ones.
 * The Catholic Relief Services misinterpreted the OSCE's 2005 data.
 * Perhaps the OSCE's municipal reports from 2005 gave numbers for both the whole municipality (the town of Peć and the 95 villages) and for the town of Peć alone; the CRS used the number for the town alone, but listed it as "municipality".
 * To me, the last option looks like the most rational explanation, but I simply don't know the facts. Do you ?


 * On the other hand, both in the comments above and in your edits to the article you appear to affirm that the CRS's 2005 data is correct, while the OSCE's April 2008 & March 2009 data provide "false figures". Do you know for a fact that this is the case ? If so, do you have any sources with which to back that claim ?


 * Note that the USAID's Local Government Initiative entry for Peć municipality mentions that "[t]he current population is estimated at 113,500 inhabitants", while their infobox mentions: "Population: 114,000" (these figures would represent a more reasonable growth from a possible 91,000 in 2005.).


 * The USAID's Local Government Initiative entry for Peć municipality links to a Profile of Peć (.pdf) from December 2004, prepared by a certain Kosovar Institute for Policy Research and Developement (KIPRED - www.kipred.net). In page 3, it gives the following populations figures: "1953: 53,280 – 1961: 66,656 – 1971: 90,124 – 1981: 111,071 – 1999: 113,000 – 2003: 115,000 – 2004: 125,000".


 * I'm still looking for other sources. - Best, Ev (talk) 16:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It is impossible for such drastic expansion of populations. It means that one of the estimates is wrong. I am sure that the latest data is wrong, as it is impossible for such big increases. Pec was the area that suffered the most in the 1999 war, the city was the most destroyed city, there simply is not enough infrastructure to sustain such a huge population. 115,000 is a good estimate. Now we wonder why would there be higher estimates... the reason is because the people who estimate use projections, so they take into account the drastic growth of the past, so they assume that this drastic growth continues. The conditions that these projections ignore is the war and emigration that has affected most municipalities in Kosovo. Here's something, link. This report is longer and more detailed. More effort was put into it. (LAz17 (talk) 03:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)).


 * What you provide now is the OSCE Mission in Kosovo's Municipal profile of Peć of May 2006 – we're mostly dealing with the same documents by the same organization: the OSCE's municipal profiles. :-) As you note, these older OSCE profles were more detailed; I always wonder why they switched to the current format.


 * That May 2006 municipal profile mentions that the "municipality is divided into 28 territorial communities, comprising a total of 95 villages, with an approximate population of 125,000." — However, the "Table 1.1: Ethnic Composition, Including IDPs" give an estimate figure of 91,112 inhabitants (noting that in early 2005 the actual number of people registered in the municipality was of 81,026, but that it was believed that many people had not officially registered).


 * So, in short, so far we have the following:
 * KIPRED's municipal profile (December 2004): 125,000.
 * USAID's Local Government Initiative (date unclear, but mentioning outdated local government members -the current "official" mayor is Ali Berisha- and linking to KIPRED's profile of December 2004): 113,500 in text and 114,000 in infobox.
 * OSCE Mission in Kosovo's Municipal profile (May 2006): ca. 125,000 in text and 91,112 in table.
 * OSCE Mission in Kosovo's Municipal profile (April 2008): ca. 170,000
 * OSCE Mission in Kosovo's Municipal profile (March 2009): ca. 170,000


 * The European Centre for Minority Issues - Kosovo (ECMI Kosovo), which is both a non-governmental organisation registered and located in Kosovo and a branch office of the European Centre for Minority Issues (ECMI - www.ecmi.de), does not provide any figures in their entry for Peć (after May 2008). Instead, they limit themselves to mention that "[a]ccurate population statistics are not available for Kosovo. The numbers presented here are approximate estimates by the Local Community Office, cross checked with OSCE Municipal Profiles and Civil Society", and link to a comment on statistical data.


 * I guess that in our entries we should add a clear mention of this situation to the demographics sections of all municipalities of Kosovo. I will be thinking of a proper wording (and adequate sources).


 * For the specific case of Peć, we still need a more recent source giving different numbers from the OSCE's 170,000. I'm still looking. - Best, Ev (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Albania-Kosovo Highway
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Request
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Your recent comments
Are under discussion at WP:WQA. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009
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issue
You deleted the entire geography of republika srpska krajina. Why then has the content of the page not been put into the page of republika srpska krajina? You seem to ignore the population geography and political geography which have absolutely NOTHING to do with modern day croatia. This was a VERY distinct region, and the geography page talked about this. Therefore that warrants keeping this where it was, not eliminating it, it's content, census data, population estimates, settlements, etc... (LAz17 (talk) 13:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)).
 * I can't find a page by that name that has ever existed. Can you please specify the exact name (capitalization is important), or link to the deletion log or discussion? Stifle (talk) 13:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towns_in_the_Former_RSK
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Geography_of_the_Former_Republic_of_Serbian_Krajina (LAz17 (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)).
 * Thank you. That article was not deleted, but redirected. You can find the content here if you wish to merge it to Republic of Serbian Krajina or any other article. Note also that it was Fritzpoll, not me, who carried this out. Stifle (talk) 13:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: issue
You are, actually, the one who "tampers" with the article, because I just reverted it to a long-stable version. Also, I was the one who discussed it on the talk page first. No such user (talk) 13:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, where are you on that talk page? No such user (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re: bookic
Ide se vanka :) Jesi li ti pogledao za imena tih naselja? Kao što sam rekao čini mi se da je previše naselja označeno plavom. Kada ulovim vremena dat ću ti još par konkretnih primjera (kao za Kakanj i Kupres). I'm going out:) Have you asked for the names of those settlments? As I said it seems to me that to much of settlments are colored blue. When I get some time I'll give you a few more concreate examples (as I did for Kakanj and Kupres). C'ya :) --Čeha (razgovor) 20:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC) Da znam, radio sam dosta tih karata sam pa sam svjestan koliko to vremena oduzima. Gle i meni se čini da nema nekih velikih grešaka, nego samo sitnijih tipa naselje, dva, tri. Trebao bih malo bolje pogledati kartu usporediti je s onom kartom naseljenih mjesta (koja nažalost nije službena već je djelo nekog entuzijasta s weba) kao i popisima na wikipedijama. Zato bi gotova karta položaja naselja bila zgodna a ne da se mora provjeravati po google mapsu položaje pojedinih sela :) A i nije da sam nešto u zadnje vrijeme na wikipediji, masa drugih obaveza... Ja sam ti inače iz Zagreba. Lijep gradić :) Ovi likovi bi trebali malo proći kroz te karte otkloniti greške (idealno bi bilo da i stave popise naselja, ako su to već stavljali na wikipediju, dali besplatno na gledanje i ostavili mail za kontakt, mislim da oko toga ne bi smjelo biti problema) i po mogućnosti staviti neke od popisa i na latinici :) Super ćirilica i sve, ali s obzirom da je ovo engleska wiki :) A i lakše je drugim ljudima za gledati i čitati (počevši od mene pa nadalje:).... Ti si iz Srbije ili ? --Čeha (razgovor) 21:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC) Mali ti je ovo svijet :) A slovenci ko slovenci. Mi sada s njima imamo priličnih problema oko eu i izbijanja maka na konac. A, ide to sve u krug... Frka oko tih karata što ih je premalo službenih, previše amaterskih, a tako se uvijek potkradne neka greška. Nisam vidio karte Hrvatske. Imaš link? Prva karta je ok(1991), a drugu nisam stigao pogledati. Doma me jučer nešto zezao laptop a u uredu nemam firefox (a ME nažalost ne prikazuje iste kako spada). Budem pogledao večeras, trebala bi biti ok. EU ti nije loša, ukoliko se ne zaboravlja zašto služi. A to je ispunjavanje nacionalnih interesa:) Pretpristupni i pristupni fondovi su zbilja moćni (Španjolsku su podigli dok si rekao keks). Naši problemi ti leže u tkz. "elitama" (i tome što pravosuđe ne funkcionira baš kako bi trebalo, barem u Hrvatskoj). Mislim da u Češkoj i Poljskoj nisu izvršili skoro sveopću prodaju nacionalnih poduzeća kao što je to u Hrvatskoj ili Mađarskoj (oni su još gori od nas). Dok god se na EU gleda kao na sredstvo (jači razvitak države, veći prihodi pučanstva) sve 5. Kada se počinje tupiti o tome kao cilju tada stupa na scenu ovaj kolonijalizam o kojem pričaš... Pa pogledaj Bugarsku (koja je u EU). Sva lova je otišla lokalnoj mafiji, a polovina pučanstva im se iselila (mislim da ih sada ima oko 7 milijuna?, 81 ih je bilo 10 milijuna). Ako si ne pomogneš sam zalud ti sve ostalo :/ --Čeha (razgovor) 11:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC) Karta 2001 je loša (i to čini mi se jako). ovo ti je karta hrvatsje po općinama. Nekako mi se ne čini da se previše razlikuje od karte po naseljima (s obzirom na veličinu općina). --Čeha (razgovor) 21:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC) Može biti, tamo naselje doslovce može biti seoce od 2 kuće :) Karta je u svakom slučaju zanimljiva. Po njoj bi se reklo da su se Srbi vratili u skoro sva mala seoca istočne Like, sj. Dalmacije, Korduna i Banovine. Dok u zap. Slavoniji to baš i nije bio slučaj. Ne znam, kako stvari stoje uskoro će i novi popis:) Ne bi se složio dokraja s tobom oko EU. Iako djelomično imaš pravo. To je napravljeno da bi se određeni ljudi i države obogatile. Pogotovo one velike. Ali to ne znači da je napravljeno konkretno protiv nekog. Ako je državna stabilna i složna otkantat će ih sve i napraviti na svoju korist. Evo ti primjer našeg ZERPa. To ti je razgraničeno još između Jugoslavije i Italije. Hrvatska je imala pravo po svjetskom pravu tu proglasiti svoj gospodarski pojas. I onda ti neki glasnogovornik eu izvali, da da to je sve u redu, ali oni preferiraju "politiku kompromisa". Kakvih kompromisa kad je jasno po nekakvom međunarodnom zakonu tko ima pravo na što?? I onda ti se na kraju naša vlada savila i popustila talijanskom interesu. Da smo bili normalniji, rekli kvragu sve neće nitko od nas raditi budale, ovi bi se frnjili kojih par mjeseci a poslije bi bilo ok. Ne može nitko (bez obzira koliko velik) protiv nekakvog međunarodnog prava (to se dosta tiče i vas na jugu). Treba izdržat pritiske i biti svoj. A jbg :/ A ovo za free trade u principu imaš pravo. Pa već imaš akcije u Americi "kupujmo američansko :)". Laganini ti se mijenja slika svjeta. E sad na bolje ili na gore to ostaje tek da se vidi... --Čeha (razgovor) 12:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC) Jesi se čuo s ljudima ?--Čeha (razgovor) 22:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Daj pošalji ljudima poruku, da se to sve može provjeriti. Ne znam u čemu je problem? --Čeha (razgovor) 11:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC) Vidim da ti je zbilja problem, pa zato baš me zanima što će reći. Nažalost s obzirom da baš i ne razumijem ćirilicu, ako odgovor ne bude na latinici :/ Da ponovim još jednom, hoću da podaci budu provjereni. --Čeha (razgovor) 16:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC) In short they are talking about this map --Čeha (razgovor) 20:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Zbilja is realy. Well if you don't speak Croatian it is no wonder :) The map is theirs map just with other colors. Traditional Serb colors in BiH are red, and Croatian are blue. In this way that map is more easily comparable with my maps. Relative majority areas are colored as same as absolute and not inhabitet or minority areas are colored as majority of neighourhoud.... --Čeha (razgovor) 15:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Let me repeat once more. If the Serbs call themselves "heavenly people" that does not mean that blue represents Serbs. All the peace plans for BiH colored Serbs as red, and I just continued with that practice. If you wish you can paint your maps in pink with yellow dots for all of what I care. Varijačić map was not deleted (at least not by me), nor I did anything to it. That copy which is currently active is just a copy of it with changed colors. If you would take your precios time and check, you would see that Varijačić original map is listed as source. If I take any of this maps onto the wiki they will have original sourced also. Even if I'm not obliged to do so (maps are withouth copywrite and with no attachments, they are just showing internal borders of BiH which those guys somehow get). Let me repeat once more. As my maps on which we are discussing are blue for Croats, red for Serbs and green for Muslims. I changed and put this on imageshack so you can better compare them. And see that they have only minior differnces. Capisci? --Čeha (razgovor) 21:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

re ttc ridership per year
I am confused, are you the same individual as the IP? Cirt (talk) 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Your message
Hi LAz, the WP:Deletion policy obviously has an AfD take precedence over past take page discussions. If sourced, it would be an improvement for the main article. Spellcast (talk) 02:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The CfD is separate from the AfD and consensus can change. I understand you wanted the page kept, but restoring it under a different name is really out of process. Yes, the 2007 CfD result was to delete the category and listify, but that doesn't take priority over a direct AfD discussion of an article. A sourced list would enhance the main article and it's not like any information would be lost if that's done. Feel free to bring any of this up at WP:AN or WP:ANI, but I doubt it would result in anything different. Spellcast (talk) 15:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect and the result of the AfD is to redirect. Only content that complies with policies such as WP:V, WP:OR, WP:RS etc. can be merged. I didn't see much evidence of reliable sources to make a comprehensive independent article for a small list, which is why I nominated it. I hope you don't think it's because of nationalistic nonsense (Balkan articles unfortunately attract such users). About the older thread at Talk:Towns in the Former RSK, 5 favoured keeping and 8 favoured merging or deleting. Obviously, consensus isn't a vote, so if you determine the consensus based on the strength of the arguments, I still see it leaning towards merging or deleting (and that's even if you include your canvassed "votes"). But regardless of that thread, an AfD ultimately determines an article's fate. Repeatedly restoring an article against an AfD result (under any name) is disruptive and tendentious, so there won't be another warning on this. The last thing anyone wants is a block and I really don't like applying them over this. WP:ARBMAC may also be of interest. Spellcast (talk) 17:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Block
I'm sorry it had to come to this, but you've been blocked for 48 hours. Towns in the Former RSK is a duplicate of Geography of the Former Republic of Serbian Krajina which was redirected per AfD. You restored the page despite being told AfD results apply to any article which duplicates the same content no matter what name. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may appeal it by adding below. Spellcast (talk) 04:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Invite to work on the SFK09
Hello We are working on creating a workgroup for wikimedia kosovo http://sfk2009.ning.com/group/wikimediakosova and have an event on august 29/30 in Prishtina. We would like to invite you to come. http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/index.php/sfk09/call-for-papers.html

Thanks,

mike Mdupont (talk) 11:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Bosnia map dispute
I've had more than my fair share of headaches from that topic so if you don't mind, I hope you all can settle it amongst yourselves. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Conference invite
Hi, Wikimedia is a big topic, we call it open knowedge for trademark issues. Travel expenses will be covered for speakers. the wikimedia kosovo group is to help bring people together and train them for wikipedia. alot of people are just msn.facebook users and need a place outside of wikipedia to meet. we are working on forming a kosovo chapter.... mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdupont (talk • contribs) 07:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Adem
LAz17, i need your opinion. Please, we have problem with one article, and your voice will be useful.

Adem Jashari, and Talk:Adem Jashari.

Thank you, and i wait for your words.

Tadija (talk) 10:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm too late... sorry. (LAz17 (talk) 16:33, 7 August 2009 (UTC)).

Bosnian maps =
Laz, those maps are good. I offered you to make them more precise, but if I'm not mistaken you refused that. Map precision could be better but it is in tolerable limits. --Čeha (razgovor) 22:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC) And we did not check them. That guys did not contact me, and we do not know where is wich village.--Čeha (razgovor) 20:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD of Ethnic maps
I have nominated Ethnic maps of Bosnia and Herzegovina for deletion. As a recent editor of the article I thought you should be informed. Polargeo (talk) 23:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Bushtriprsta.jpg
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Problem
It is important because it shows that Tadic got the direct support for the reelection from the Russian President. Your personal thought that it is irrelevant and that it is not related to reelection is just that, your personal though and has no significance for Wikipedia.
 * It is still just your opinion. The content is valid, referenced and long established. Removing it for the reasons of personal animosity is not welcome, it is the violation of many policies and you can receive the official warning for valid content blanking and going against consensus.--Avala (talk) 17:01, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure I inserted lies with sources to Wikipedia and that got him reelected. Your theory is so interesting, you could make a movie out of it. However this is the reality not fiction so please act correspondingly.--Avala (talk) 18:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing.  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 10:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC) 10:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The article has been fully protected in its current version for 48 hours. This is not an endorsement of the text in its current version; the purpose of the protection is to permit resolution of the dispute. Please discuss the problems with the material on the article's talk page. If the two of you cannot reach consensus among yourself, you would be well advised to seek additional input from one of the fora listed in dispute resolution. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Please don't cloud the conversation with incivility. It won't help resolve anything if you wind up blocked for personal attacks. This kind of language is not in keeping with Wikipedia's behavioral policies. Personally, I'd really prefer to see it resolved. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:50, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
Do you really think that I am sockpuppet of Fairchild-Republic and others?--Ex13 (talk) 12:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. (LAz17 (talk) 14:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)). I also think that Producer might be a puppet of Direktor, though I do not bother to look up more into that. (LAz17 (talk) 14:33, 30 September 2009 (UTC)).


 * Predložio bih dogovor. Budući da imam namjeru u narednom periodu pisati o svemu povezanom s tramvajima u Hrvatskoj, materijala imam dovoljno kao i foto, ostavio bih svoj template, a neću dirati tvoj. Može tako? A ako će netko treći, tko će pisat te članke, ima drugu ideju, opet ćemo diskutirati--Ex13 (talk) 14:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Nudim ja tebi drugi dogovor, da ti pises o tramvajima i da bude samo jedan template. Nema nista drugo da mogu da nudim u ikakvim diskusijama. (LAz17 (talk) 14:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)).


 * Ne tu se stvarno slažem. Koji je smisao imati šest bezveznih template-a kad ih pola i onako nema dovoljno linkova. ("Former trams" su po mom skromnom mišljenu below Wikipedia notability.) -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 15:08, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Suradnik
What is to be done? First get a checkuser. Learn how to do it, its not complicated (read all about it step by step, here). I honestly don't know if the guy's a sock, but find out before wasting more energy. After that you've got two options: 1) Start the WP:DR dispute resolution process. Take it by the book. OR 2) you could simply nominate the Croatian template for deletion WP:AfD. However, bare in mind that there's a lobby of people who will vote down anything they perceive as "anti-Croatian", no matter how ridiculous. Inform neutral people about the deletion (if you go that way). -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 18:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Nice request
Hi there, I notice that you are interested in Bloc Party. I have nominated Intimacy at FAC here and would appreciate some input from you and possibly a verdict. RB88 (T) 19:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009
Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Avala (talk) 15:25, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I have removed your personal attack. If you do it again, I will block you. Please see my note above and confine yourself to the issues. Calling another contributor a disgrace to Wikipedia is unacceptable. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Watch it LAz, don't do anything stupid... -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 17:22, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Re:Čeha
Well, I'm pretty busy "dethroning an Ustaše king" :P so I won't be able to really get involved (have a look, contribute :). He may have been rude, but you're the one posting on his talkpage against his wishes (always a bad idea, believe me I know :). The map looks excellent, and I can see no harm in uploading it (if your guys at srWiki can get past copyright). In any case my opinions are irrelevant, I again recommend you bring the (presumably) faulty maps to the attentions of admins. -- DIREKTOR  ( TALK ) 17:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Laz, again don't lie. The last sentance on that talk page was mine from 26 of June 2009, and I said; Laz, what's wrong with you? That qoute goes for 1991 map of Croatia. Damn it man, how can we talk if you twist my words. For bih map I said that I need further validation. E-mail those guys already. I don't know it is from your bad english or do you have problems in cognition, but there is something seriously wrong with you man. YOU did not give any validation of that maps, any link to place names or anything else which would be of any use. Just a map which is similar to mine.
 * I'm not gonna argue. You have problems. And I realy don't care. Do not post on my pages any more. Thanks in advance. --Čeha (razgovor) 20:41, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Laz, don't scrable on my pages. I lost you, and I don't have a clue what are you trying to say? And, I realy don't care. If you don't have anything verifible, don't trublle me no more. --Čeha (razgovor) 15:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't have a clue? You seem to, on the map discussion page. Stop lying. Your stuff is less verifiable. (LAz17 (talk) 06:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)).
 * Laz I realy don't know is your english so much bad or something else, but :) Please stop. Your claims are a bit ridicilous. --Čeha (razgovor) 15:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop insulting. Claims are not ridiculous - people have had problems with your maps ever since you posted. You know very well what I am talking about - you seemed to know for months, and now all of a sudden you don't. Don't play dumb. My english is better than yours, both verbally and grammatically. (LAz17 (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)).
 * Obviously it is not. I ask for just one thing. Valid and verifible. That's all. --Čeha (razgovor) 01:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Valid? Oh ho, then your maps are bullshit by default. Those maps are verifiable, unlike yours. (LAz17 (talk) 02:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)).
 * Your language describes you better than I ever could.--Čeha (razgovor) 14:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Maps
I am not author of these maps of Bosnia on Serbian Wikipedia and I have no idea on which data these maps are based. It would be best that you contact author of these maps to ask him about sources that he used. PANONIAN 20:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Hej. Posatvio sam ti neke mape koje si trazijo. Mozda cu da postavim neku svoju. (Lilici (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC)).

File copyright problem with File:ErsteBankEishockeyLigaLogo.png
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 * Excuse me, but you should look at what I wrote there. I asked for it to be deleted. Jeeze. (LAz17 (talk) 02:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)).

Blocking and "ugly words"
Nice from you that you've admitted that it was you. But, words like "zajebavaš" are not allowed to be used on this encyclopedia. It degrades the level of discussion, insults and belittles your collocutor. Unsourced? Man, do you understand Croatian? If you don't, I can translate some parts for you. That's the page of ice hockey club Mladost. The history of club. Kubura (talk) 03:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Uh, it seems that you don't understand Croatian fully, so I'll help you. The block expired after 7 days Blokiran je ...na rok 1 tjedan. "Tjedan" in Croatian means "a week". Maybe in Serbian language "zajebavaš" isn't insult. In Croatian it is. In Croatian, using that word in discussion means disrespecting of your collocutor. Kubura (talk) 02:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
You have been blocked from editing for a short time to prevent further disruption caused by your engagement in an edit war&#32;at Demographic history of Bosnia and Herzegovina. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. Toddst1 (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why do you unblock ceha without unblocking me? You are clearly biased. (LAz17 (talk) 05:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)).

Leaguename
LAz17, this is not fully correct (19:14, 5 November 2009 LAz17 moved Talk:Croatian Ice Hockey Championship to Talk:Croatian Hockey League). There's also Field Hockey League in Croatia. How do you think that one'll distinguish those leagues? Kubura (talk) 02:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Central Bosnia Canton
I merely changed the formatting, I didn't add any figures. PRODUCER (talk) 16:33, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * yes, no problem (LAz17 (talk) 16:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)).

Kind note about ANI
Hi, LAz17! This is a kind note to gently remind you that when you open an WP:ANI thread about another editor you need to inform them of it. No worries! I've gone ahead and let them know. This is just a gentle FYI. Basket of Puppies 18:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Again
I'm not a fan of the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" policy if thats what your aiming for. In hopes of resolving the dispute I attempted to find an official map and came across this little gem hosted by OHR. I also came across this, a discussion that can only be described as a cesspool of ethnocentrist stupidity. PRODUCER (talk) 01:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Any user created map is prone to POV, my aim is for the most official map, be it by municipality or settlement level. I've also come across from maps from the CIA.   PRODUCER (talk) 08:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of HS Olimpija Ljubljana
Removing template - speedy was declined. Elen of the Roads (talk) 09:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

consensus
If you wish to remove sourced information please discuss on talkpage and reach consensus. Polargeo (talk) 06:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Attack Warning
Do not attack me as you did here and here. I will not tollerate it. That may be what you do when arguing with Ceha or PRODUCER but I will not play that game. I will remind you of Balkans sanctions In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. Polargeo (talk) 17:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Stalker
Laz because of your rude behavior you were reported to ANI. --Čeha (razgovor) 02:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * For trying to start another edit war --Čeha (razgovor) 19:26, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Nationalistic POV is not welcome on wikipedia. (LAz17 (talk) 20:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)).

Map of Sandžak
I included in this map all municipal centres and urban settlements and Gradac is an urban settlement according to Montenegrin bureau for statistics, so yes, this settlement should be there. PANONIAN 08:52, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Rape Numbers
Hi Laz. I have left a comment on PRODUCER's talkpage. You will notice that the 100,000 number is not in the lede. The two sources for the 20,000-50,000 are from the last 3 years. Also it is very clear in the lede that the 20,000-50,000 is an estimate of the total number of women raped on all sides in the Bosnian War (not just by serbs). If you strongly think the number of women raped by all sides is significantly less than 20,000 or significantly more than 50,000 then this needs discussing. Otherwise if you would like a section on the debate surrounding the numbers raped then please propose this on the talkpage. I dislike the idea of having a section on the numbers debate because I feel it will be very unconstructive, but if you can do a balanced job of it then I would support it. Polargeo (talk) 09:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

How to avoid editing when not logged in
I saw you describing the problem you have, that Wikipedia's 'remember me' is only good for 30 days. To avoid editing when logged out, go to "My Watchlist" and bookmark that page. Then use that as the page you always use when you go to Wikipedia at the start of an editing session. If you are logged out, Wikipedia will display the 'please log in' page. This is the only page it will do it for, everywhere else, it will display pages normally. This way, you will always see immediately if you are logged out. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:26, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Blocked for personal attacks
LAz17, with this edit, you have continued your feud with User:Ceha with yet more personal attacks and accusations ("nationalist bigotry"), against my very clear and repeated warning to cease all such personalising of your dispute and concentrate exclusively on discussing factual correctness of the maps in question. You are therefore now blocked, for 48 hours. During this time, I will try to work with Ceha as an informal mediator and try to figure out if his data can be verified, taking your objections into account. When you come back, you will have one more chance to join the discussion and make constructive contributions to it. However, the next time I see such attacks, you will be permanently topic-banned from all these cartography discussions under the rules of WP:ARBMAC. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * How can Ceha use words POV in every other sentence and not get banned, yet I may not?
 * Here is the map btw.
 * BanHrvatska1939.gif
 * (LAz17 (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2009 (UTC)).
 * Observe this map closely, you will see that Bugojno is on the very border, and so obviously Donji Vakuf is not part of BH, as it is north of the border, . (LAz17 (talk) 22:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)).



Your request addresses the proximal cause of your block, but the contents of your request do not show a willingness to engage in productive discussion with other editors. Thus, this unblock request is unlikely to go through as currently formulated. I suggest that you rework the latter half of it. Dekimasu よ! 00:04, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it better now? (LAz17 (talk) 02:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)).
 * Perhaps. I'll leave the actual review to someone else; I have to be away from the computer now. Dekimasu よ! 06:17, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Blocking admin's comment: LAz17, your remarks here don't fill me with confidence you are willing to extend the necessary assumption of good faith to Ceha, which will be crucial if you are to engage in a constructive dialog with him. Maybe you can reconsider if you take into account that this episode may have been triggered by a misunderstanding on your part. You seem to be saying above that when you made your "bigotry" comment you were answering to a post where you thought Ceha had called somebody else's position "nationalistic POV"? Well, he didn't. The only passage where I see him using those words in the preceding discussion is where he is defending his own position against the objection that it might imply a nationalist POV. He isn't blaming anybody else. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:54, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He called my opinion nationalist POV and keeps one discussion on multiple pages. See for yourself.  and elsewhere too. He gets away with that, and I do not. Double standards in my opinion. (LAz17 (talk) 16:18, 30 November 2009 (UTC)).
 * Next time when you block, feel free to extend the block to the same time when the IP gets unblocked. Technically I have two blocks, so it is really weird to have them not expire at the same time. (LAz17 (talk) 05:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)).
 * Sorry about the WP:Autoblock problem, which is a technical feature that we can unfortunately not avoid easily. I can no longer find any active autoblock on your name right now, so I suppose it has expired in the meantime. If you should still have problems editing, please contact me or some other admin or post unblock-auto here, stating your IP or the autoblock #, and it will be lifted quickly. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Islands
See this map File:BanovinaCroatia.PNG From Krk to Brač there are lot of islands, but not a single on the map. I will try to do something in svg.--Ex13 (talk) 17:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Maps
Well, you can draw maps by yourself in Photoshop program. I already planned to draw more history maps related to the history of former Yugoslavia, but I do not know when I will have enough free time for that. PANONIAN 16:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:PanonianLeague.jpg
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 * Another similar logo has replaced this one. Feel free to delete this one. (LAz17 (talk) 04:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC)).

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