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One Laptop per Child updates
Hi LF, can you review the sources I've added to Talk:One Laptop per Child and make updates as appropriate? I'm pretty sure the other numbers being used on the page are just confirmations of purchase quantities, not confirmations of deployment success (it's much harder to count children who have laptops than it is to count machines that have made it through customs) -- in which case the new work in Peru, Argentina, and Gaza are all good to include There are also a bunch of less high-profile projects in Latin America, but these were easiest to find reliable int'l news sources for.

Cheers, –SJ+ 22:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Meetup/DC 11
Hey, just in case you missed it, there is an oppurtunity to get a free dinner this Tuesday August 11 and a chance to meet and hang out talk about WikiProject United States Public Policy and WP:GLAM/SI. Sorry that this is so late in the game, I was hoping the e-mail would be a better form of contact for active members (if you want to get on the e-mail list send me an User e-mail ). Hope that you can attend, User:Sadads (talk)11:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Restaurant Notability
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Hello,

I recently opened up a policy change proposal regarding the notability requirements for restaurants here and I would like your input, be it in support or opposition. Thank you - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DC Meetup #12
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Articles for deletion/Bill O'Reilly sexual harassment lawsuit
Just wondering why you closed this now, just seven hours after a relist. It was finally getting some insightful commentary, which you cut rather short. Courcelles 17:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * All good, thanks. Am I going crazy, or did the old page used to update a lot more often than it does nowdays? Courcelles 18:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Goblinmania!
Thank you for deleting the "Goblinmania!" article. No one had commented for a while, so I was worried that the three comments weren't enough to get the article deleted. Spidey 104  20:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Could you please explain
Hi, you just closed Articles_for_deletion/Log/2010_December_12 and i have some questions.

Afd's should run for at least 7 days. I think that time was not over yet. Why did you close the debate so early? Secondly could you please explain why you closed the debate as Keep. Given the arguments in the debate based on our policies the result should be Delete. So i would be interested to know how you came to your decision. Thank you IQinn (talk) 04:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * In reply to your message.


 * I think many wrongs does not make a right. You may have another look - the debate was started on 13th December and a debate should run for at least 7 days.


 * WRT: "Based on an analysis of the arguments, the consensus indicated a keep."
 * I disagree with this the analysis of the arguments indicates a delete. Could you please name the arguments that you analysed?
 * Could you also please explain were you saw a consensus? Thank you. IQinn (talk) 04:37, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * In reply to your message.


 * Yes i am thinking of going to DRV as the debate was closed to early and so far i disagree so far with your closure based on the information you gave to me. I just want to clear some more question with you to possible avoid this.


 * So the answer to my question about the analysed arguments is that you think DGG's rational would support a keep. Correct me if i am wrong.


 * What do you exactly describe a DGG's rational? His rationals has be re-butted and proven wrong. There are no sufficient secondary sources that satisfy WP:GNG. Could you please explain. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 05:26, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Any thoughts? IQinn (talk) 11:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * DRV might not be needed if you just could answer my question about DGG's rational as i have ask it above. That would be nice. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Zealey deletion
Hello LFaraone,

I Added a page that I thought would be considered important enough to be apart of the Wikipedia web site (Samuel Zealey). I am new to this service so would appreciate if you could help me with making this page stick. I relise that I did'nt attach any web site links which there is lots of on the world wide.

Could you please help me make this page?

All the very best

arttoeye19:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arttoeye (talk • contribs)

Hello again,

I am disapionted that you have not got back to me yet all though you where so hasty getting ride of the page that I set up under the name (Samuel Zealey). You litrally got ride of the page within an hour of me putting it up but have not yet responded to my question nor have you showed any attempted in helping me.

I would like you to respond to so I can sort out the matter in hand. I would like to be able to make this page apart of the wikipedia web site and understand now that the page was deleted because of having no links of the artists achievements, I have now list a few of Samuel Zealey's achievements below.

I hope you will reply soon.

Best,

arttoeye

http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/brentwood-gazette/mi_8088/is_20091125/sam-beats-thousands-break-tv/ai_n51006823/

http://www.murmurart.com/art/murmur_42-309020_middle-ear?archived_artist=true

http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/art_news/sam_zealey_saatchi_online_critics_choice_by_rebecca_wilson/4950

http://news.scotsman.com/arts/Saatchi39s-school-searches-for-a.5847380.jp

http://www.artrabbit.com/uk/events/event/22590/rbs_bursary_awards_2010

http://www.kinetica-museum.org/new_site/artist.php?id=107

http://www.spoonfed.co.uk/spooners/lauren-romano-8167/murmurart-an-introduction-2262/

http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/art_news/saatchi_online_artists_at_concrete_&_glass_london_-_exhibition_2_-19_october/4931

http://blogs.wimbledon.arts.ac.uk/snapshot/2009/12/02/wimbledon-sculpture-alumni-on-bbc2-school-of-saarchi/

http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/art_news/congratulations_to_saatchi_online_artists_exhibiting_at_scope_and_concrete_and_glass_london/5075

Arttoeye (talk) 00:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I responded on your talk page yesterday, and again today… L Faraone  01:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Zealey deletion, sorry
Hey, sorry I did'nt think you replyed Thanks for getting back to me, its just that im new to all this. I have re-done the page, do you think you could tell me if its ok please? if it is all good I would like to make it the direct like from google cos at the moment the link Samuel Zealey on google goes to the deleted page on wikipedia and not the new one I have set up.

The link that goes to the deleted page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Zealey

The new link I have set up - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arttoeye/Samuel_Zealey

Best

art to eye

Arttoeye (talk) 22:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

List of deaths related to scientology
With the split so close I was wondering if we would be able to have more explanation on why the consensus was delete rather than no consensus?Coffeepusher (talk) 05:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for List of deaths related to scientology
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of deaths related to scientology. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. __meco (talk) 08:55, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Branding national myths and symbols
Dear L Faraone,

I am a bit confused like:-( I truely do not understand why an article we put up, 'Branding national Myths and symbols', was just deleted. Its sourced, its not pinched off anyone, nor was it attacking anyone...please help + guide me to do what is required to keep that piece of information in the public domain. please tell me why it was deleted, and what it needs to have it done to it, to be un-deleted.

with thanks, and have a great year of the Rabbit:-)

ayse Fahri. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayse Fahri (talk • contribs) 10:22, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Branding national myths and symbolsDear L Faraone,

I am a bit confused like:-( I truely do not understand why an article we put up, 'Branding national Myths and symbols', was just deleted. Its sourced, its not pinched off anyone, nor was it attacking anyone...please help + guide me to do what is required to keep that piece of information in the public domain. please tell me why it was deleted, and what it needs to have it done to it, to be un-deleted.

with thanks, and have a great year of the Rabbit:-)

ayse Fahri00:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayse Fahri (talk • contribs)


 * I responded on your talk page yesterday… L Faraone  00:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

SLAPPED With a Minnow!!!
Next time in a XFD in a contentious area give a brief summary of your decision. So we all can save alot of time for every one. Happy Holidays. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 17:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ifu2
Template:Ifu2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mhiji 01:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Bill McGarry page
Hi,

I used to be "Bill McGarry (Internet Activist)" but now I am "Bill McGarry (Deleted)" or "Bill McGarry (NOT the football coach!)" or just plain old "Bill McGarry".

I received emails (well, 2 emails) from Down-Syn (Down Syndrome) Listserv readers that my page in Wikipedia was no longer there. I followed up on this and saw that the page was removed due to no sources listed and due to no Google search references found.

I would like to get this page put back into Wikipedia if possible. I give the Wikipedia URL to readers who want to know my background and history. Also, there are researchers, students (including post-grads), etc who use the Down-Syn mailing list and the 17 years of archives for their thesis, project, research article, etc and use the Wikipedia URL as a reference.

I have had some magazine articles and newspaper articles written about my work which I can dig up and there are references on the Internet as well. Now, as far as the "no Google search references found" -- The problem here is the "Internet Activist" title which is not a good way to describe my work. If you search for "Bill McGarry" with disability or handicap, then I should pop up in various places. When I first started, the term "handicap" was the word used but over the years, the word "disability" or "disabled" are now considered the politically correct terms to use. Try Googling: "bill mcgarry" handicap OR disability OR disabled -wikipedia -advocate Note that this rejects any findings with the word "advocate". Many sites use Wikipedia material but do NOT give credit to Wikipedia so the "-advocate" should eliminate every wikiscraper (and maybe some non-wiki finds but that's okay.) You should find material dating as far back as 20 years ago. Google reported about 700 hits with these search terms; of course, some of those are duplicates and some are of other people but a lot of these are me. Search engines do not have access to the Down-Syn current articles or the 17+ years of Down-Syn archives so those will not show up.

I have sent this to the Talk pages of the other people who looked into deleting this page. I hope that this is okay.

So is it possible to get this page restored or should someone re-create it?

Thanks for your help!

Bill Bill  Chat  21:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)


 * As the closer of the debate, I was just reflecting the consensus at that time. Looking at the links you provided, there are a number of sites which reference you and your digest, so I don't doubt the veracity of that. However, the article probably still does not meet the notability requirements for people, and none of the sites I found would qualify as reliable sources. This isn't a commentary on your work, which is commendable. L Faraone  14:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiXDC: Wikipedia 10th Birthday!
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordyn Shellhart
Why'd you close the AFD, delete the article, then change your mind? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Mid-States Football League - DELETION
If possible please explain to me why the page was deleted, along with it's member teams:


 * Chicago Mustangs
 * Chicago Thunder
 * Indianapolis Stampede
 * Joliet Buccaneers
 * Kankakee Plowmen
 * Kilbourn City Hawks
 * Lake County Steelers
 * Leyden Lions
 * Lincoln-Way Patriots
 * McHenry County Pirates
 * Mid-State Steel
 * Northern Illinois Cowboys
 * Racine Threat
 * Roscoe Rush

While I'm aware that you may not have been involved in the deletion of all of the aforementioned pages, I know that you were involved in the deletion of the page mentioned in the Subject of this topic. I did read in the discussion for deletion that USER: Paul McDonald stated in the process that because it's AMATEUR in nature that it's unworthy of 'being listed in this encyclopedia'. I won't be as condescending as he was and spell out the definition of encyclopedia, I will however make the case as to why this league and it's member teams are documentable entities. The Mid-States Football League (MSFL) has been in existence for 13 years that has produced four (4) Minor League Football News (MLFN) National Championships. Eight of the fourteen teams have been in existence for the better part of a decade and have established themselves within the community. There have been numerous articles written about these member teams, however if we were made aware that external sources were needed to maintain the wiki pages...these external links would have been submitted. There have been numerous radio and webcast broadcasts for this league and in fact, this league established it's own radio show in 2010. Please let me know, what needs to be done to restore the aforementioned pages, as the MSFL and it's member teams are in fact known nationally as well as well entrenched in their local markets. Thank you for your assistance. Mad1chgo (talk) 02:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Digger deletion
Could you explain why the article wasn't merged rather than deleted? In general if there is an article where the material would fit, we merge to that article unless there is an UNDUE problem. In general for things like books (or comics) the author's page is a very reasonable merge target... AfD at. Hobit (talk) 01:51, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi LFaraone, I echo Hobit's question. I was surprised not to see a simple merge and redirect result. I was about to start a WP:Deletion review but since that page starts with "Deletion Review is to be used where someone is unable to resolve the issue in discussion with the administrator" I realised I should bring it up with the closing admin first. Did I not have a merge proposal on Talk:Digger (webcomic) for a merge? There is my so far unchallenged proposal on Talk:Ursula_Vernon. I was about to do such a merge but thought I would wait for the result. -84user (talk) 11:54, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * On further review, you're both right, merge is appropriate. I'm off to sleep now, but I'll undelete it tomorrow (EST). L Faraone  04:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Hobit (talk) 00:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012 bid, DC chapter & next meetup!

 * 1) At WikiXDC in January, User:Harej proposed that DC submit a bid to host Wikimania 2012. A bid and organizing committee is being formed and seeks additional volunteers to help. Please look at our bid page and sign up if you want to help out.  You can also signup for the bid team's email list.
 * 2) To support the Wikimania bid, more events like WikiXDC, and outreach activities like collaborations with the Smithsonian (ongoing) and National Archives, there also has been discussion of forming Wikimedia DC, as an official Wikimedia chapter.  You can express interest and contribute to chapter discussions on the Wikimedia DC Meta-Wiki pages.
 * 3) To discuss all this and meet up with special guest, Dutch Wikipedian User:Kim Bruning, there will be a meetup, Meetup/DC 16 this Tuesday at 7pm, at Capitol City Brewery, Metro Center. There will be a pre-meetup Wikimania team meeting at 6pm at the same location.

Apologies for the short notice for this meetup, but let's discuss when, where & what for DC Meetup #17. Also, if you haven't yet, please join wikimedia-dc mailing list to stay informed. Cheers, User:Aude (talk)

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OTRS voicemail tickets.
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DC Meetup: May 7 @ Tenleytown Library
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Englsh
A tag has been placed on Englsh, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template   to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 98.68.159.219 (talk) 18:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I ended up deleting the page myself. L Faraone  18:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

GLAM-Wiki Baltimore meetup
 You are invited to the first Wikipedia Baltimore meetup on Saturday, July 23, 10:00am-12:30pm at the Walters Art Museum. Come meet Wikimedians, learn about GLAM-Wiki partnerships, get involved, and discuss future wiki outreach and activities in the Baltimore area!

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The WikiProject National Archives Newsletter
The first ever WikiProject National Archives newsletter has been published. Please read on to find out what we're up to and how to help out! There are many opportunities for getting more involved. Dominic·t 21:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

BUILD (website)
Hiya - would you be able to userfy my recently deleted 'BUILD (website)' article please? Any suggestions on what I can add that'll make it more noteworthy? Sacrificial anode (talk) 23:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Di-no license
Template:Di-no license has been nominated for merging with Template:No copyright information. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Gh87 (talk) 23:37, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

You're invited! Wikimedia DC Annual Membership Meeting
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"IMP³rove"
Dear LFaraone, we assume that you deleted the article by mistake and ask wikipedia kindly to uppload it again ASAP! I could not identify any substantial reason for deleting the article. Especially after the article had been approved twice by NawlinWiki and User:Syrthiss. Last time I checked the discussion page of this article, there was positive feedback and the article was very positively ranked. Kind regards, Deborah12345 (talk) 08:32, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I replied to the user on their talkpage. Syrthiss (talk) 13:58, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Dear LFarone, I do know IMP³rove and use it. IMP³rove is a program to "Improve the Innovation Management Performance of Small and Medium Entrerprises (SME) with sustaining impact". It's been developed by a consortium initiated and funded by the European Commission. As one part of the project a tool has been developed to allow SME to compare their innovation management capabilities to others on an anonymous base, allowing them to improve their innovation management capability. So it is directly related to article about Innovation_management, Peter Drucker, etc. Unfortunately are some of the people who could contribute to the article busy with working with this set of methods and tools. Re: WP:CORP That there is a notable organization in the background can be seen if you visit the [Innova Homepage of the European Commission].

I would therefore also ask you to restore the page, to give us (the community) some more time to update it. Apologies for any non-conformances here and in the article, and me and mostly others are novice in writing at WP. Kind regards, --Lambdaoe (talk) 16:37, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's nice. I use it isn't really an argument that's useful in a deletion discussion. The article was deleted as a result of a deletion discussion; among other thigns it lacked third party sources independent from the organisation which created it, thus not meeting the general notability guideline or the product notability guidelines. L Faraone  17:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Ben Breedlove
So how are you going to handle the case where consensus is wrong? :) Good luck, people are going to be unhappy either way. Prodego  talk  08:04, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Is the etiquette after a deletion process that the article is "safe" for at least a couple of months? Thanks for your reply.Petersontinam (talk) 17:54, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * In practice about a month is given at a minimum but there is no policy explicitly stating this. L Faraone  19:50, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No. The consensus is that the consensus reached at AfD is safe until it changes. And how do we determine when it changes? Another AfD. There is no set duration for how long the consensus lasts. This is why we have idiocy like GNAA History.
 * I'm surprised nobody has taken this to DRV already. It's a good, uncontroversial close, and hopefully OTRS will no longer be deluged with spam. The change.org petition led to an e-mail being sent to OTRS with every signature, and that led to us developing a pre-canned response. Just a hunch, but I think this article won't be here next year: YouTube fads—even well-meaning ones—are just that, fads. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Granted. And its rather hard to determine how long a lack of consensus (which is what I closed it as) will last. As many people in the article suggested, it would be sensible to have another discussion in a short while once feelings die down and a more impartial analysis could be done. L Faraone  22:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Tom, let me start from the beginning to clarify on the Change.org petition. I'll try to make it as brief as possible- I looked up Ben Breedlove after seeing his video via a link from yahoo news. I came to Wikipedia because it was listed when I searched Ben. I saw the deletion warning and couldn't understand why it was there. I searched through the Wikipedia sight for hours, looking up deletion process and for a way to contact Wikipedia, to even send an email to anyone. The only place that had an email address was in job openings. I was strongly compelled to voice an opinion that this page needed to stay.
 * I went to Change.org and started a petition, my first to ever start. Throughout that petition, I was careful to state these facts-- 1. Sign if you agree that the Article falls within Wikipedia's guidelines; 2. Go to Wikipedia to see the discussion page if any questions; and 3. All places that I asked for help, I did state that the petition would not directly affect the decision- I said that it would help to show how relevant Ben is.
 * I stumbled across the deletion discussion page, but had no idea how to enter it or what to do. I figured out how to put an opinion there, and it did say that public opinion was welcome but would have no direct impact on the decision. After seeing what I thought were bad reasons for deletion, I created an account...I did not want to be anonymous. The hours and days of looking up Policy (When you are on one page, there are tens of links to other pages) made me learn more about Wikipedia itself and what it was. I interpreted policies the best that I could. When it was brought up on the discussion page that my petition was thought to be skewing things, I immediately stopped seeking out support for it. I also claimed on the discussion page that I had started the petition, was open and honest about it.
 * Wikipedia has been one of the most difficult things in my life to learn about. I don't believe that anyone can be proficient here in only a few days. While here I realized I wanted to be involved in this, really liked the thought of contributing and helping in some small way if I could learn HOW.
 * As far as the emails sent to Wikipedia of every signature, I did not realize that. I had tried to turn in the petition as a whole thing on Friday by guessing at email addresses to contact, and got lucky on one. I received a form response, and guessed at another address where I did recieve a reply saying that they were aware of the petition and did not need me to hand it in. Really, if you think about it, it could just as easily have been emails sent by individuals (outside of a petition) voicing their opinion on the article being deleted, and I bet there were many of those.
 * To sum it up- I, as one individual, did all that I could to try and stop an article from being deleted. I felt that strongly. And I believe that the correct thing was done in keeping it. Every day there are hundreds of thousands uploading his final video (9,816,530 to date) and every hour there are still thousands of messages being left in hundreds of places that he has changed their life. There are still 1,700,000 plus results when doing a search. Yes, many messages being left are from teenagers. But today's teenager is the next generation of Wikipedia Editor. And today's teenager needs all the inspiration they can get in a world full of immediate, ongoing, horrific and frightening news as well as online incivility. I respect that you think it is a fad, but I personally don't see it as that right now and I don't believe the extent of the media coverage, both then and still, would have happened if it was a fad. I also hope it isn't looked back on as one. But time will tell, and I'm grateful that this article has been given time. Sometimes, an event really does have an ongoing significant impact on society.
 * So that is my story of how I got here and the petition. I hope I am able to stay here and contribute to Wikipedia, as I find the concept amazing and feel I have something to give.Petersontinam (talk) 23:24, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course you're more than welcome to stay; I hope you didn't get the impression otherwise. However, the petition did create issues for Wikipedia; OTRS has a very limited staff and getting mass email campaigns only prevents us from effectively responding to issues the staff can take action on. L Faraone  23:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Dick's Classic Garage
just a heads up, when you closed this AfD you missed the AfD tag on Dick's. I haven't removed in case it was deliberate. Heads up in case yu just missed it StarM 01:37, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Rogue Clone
In case you haven't noticed, the only person who advocated "keep" in the AfD was the article's creator. Personally, I would have relisted it instead. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 20:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have come on the same errand. Please reconsider your close of this AfD.
 * The only person arguing for keep was the article author. At different times he used the signatures (unsigned) "Aliberti", "Frankie" and "Frank", but if you click on those you will see that they are all user . He was tinkering with his signature - not with intent to deceive, I'm sure, but it does give a misleading impression of multiple support.
 * His keep arguments are really no more than ILIKEIT and OTHERSTUFF, plus a wish that WP should be "a detailed database of published books", whereas Blanchardb and I both cited the relevant notability guideline, WP:NBOOK, and Blanchardb explained it at some length.
 * I think the AfD should have been closed as delete; alternatively, please re-list it, when I will add a note for the next closer to point out that all the keep voices are the same person. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:49, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Er, sorry, I intended to delete this but for some reason must have pushed the wrong button. L Faraone  22:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, easy to do. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 22:58, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I stopped counting the number of bloopers I've made, so I wasn't worried about this one. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 23:50, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Inre AfD John Kerry VVAW Controversy
First, thank you for your recent attention to the AfD petition. It is a contentious subject and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future. As to your determination...

I believe I may have personally made a good faith error of fact as to the genesis of the original article. After a review of the talk page archives, while, IMHO, content that might be perceived as critical of Kerry and exculpatory or positive for the Swiftvets was always met with considerable opposition, I don't believe that the introduction of controversial Kerry/VVAW content may have ever reached a level of incorporation that might have inspired a fork to John Kerry VVAW controversy. Instead, that content had apparently been (though I haven't personally confirmed this) introduced and debated within the John Kerry article and the VVAW article. In light of that, I was about to strike my expressed preference of a merge specifically to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth to a simple Keep vote when I noted that you had closed the AfD.

In light of my position change and because my position was cited by other editors, I'm wondering if the AfD might be re-opened for a short period so as to accommodate my change in position...which may be influential in your AfD result determination? I simply want this all to be above board and am not very experienced in the AfD process.

Thanks for your consideration. JakeInJoisey (talk) 04:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's your call, LFaraone. Jake gave me a courtesy notice about this disucssion. Bearian (talk) 20:34, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh, sure. I'm not really inclined to reopen AfD discussions, but this seems reasonable enough. I'll relist the discussion. L Faraone  03:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the accommodation. Regards. JakeInJoisey (talk) 05:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

FYI, I've just become aware that the AfD closure note is still affixed to the top of Talk:John Kerry VVAW controversy. I thought you might wish delete that pending an anticipated closure of the now-extended AfD. Thanks. JakeInJoisey (talk) 04:30, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

You're invited to DC Meetup #28!
Note: You can remove your name from the DC meetup invite list here. -- Message delivered by AudeBot (talk) 03:10, 7 March 2012 (UTC), on behalf of User:Aude

Edit notice on Free content
Hi LFaraone, you created an edit notice for Free content. Although the notice is correct, it is also correct for all articles, so I do not see its purpose. Could you explain? --Chealer (talk) 17:57, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Physics major
Just redirect it to Physics education, there's no need to salt the article page AND the talk page (I couldn't get in there to write this suggestion). Diego (talk) 05:48, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

So, how come when I went to "Physics major" it redirected me to "Physics education", but when I actually clicked on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Physics_major&redirect=no it showed "Physics major ↳ Engineer"? Especially given that the history of the page shows no revision where it ever was "Physics major ↳ Engineer", and that's definitely not what the page source says either? I'm very, very confused by that. Xmoogle (talk) 07:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Further investigation shows this only happens if I'm not logged in... even more bizarre :/ Xmoogle (talk) 07:34, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're likely running into a cached page, since the change is recent. See the xkcd.org webcomic today for the reason. Thanks LFaraone for the cleanup. Diego (talk) 08:01, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be sensible to protect or semi-protect the article page (and only the article, not the talk page) for a few days, until the xkcd comic is out of view. It's being vandalized and will be until then; I'll keep an eye on it, but avoiding IPs from editing it is desired. Diego (talk) 11:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Chealer (talk) 17:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Cluster (computing listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Cluster (computing. Since you had some involvement with the Cluster (computing redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Arny (talk) 08:10, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Es shell deletion
I was hoping you'd reconsider the deletion of Es shell.

Supporting links:


 * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/shell-differences/ (see particularly table of differences; all other shells have a page)
 * http://foldoc.org/Extensible+Shell
 * http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=es+haahr+extensible+shell&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5 (see 14 citations, and second article)
 * http://luv.asn.au/overheads/shells-talk.html (detailed 3rd party discussion)

Prrobably less relevant, but I'm not a wikipedia expert:


 * http://www.gnu.org/bulletins/bull24.html
 * http://ftp.gnu.org/non-gnu/es.README
 * http://www.shelldorado.com/links/
 * http://cfajohnson.com/shell/cus-faq.html
 * http://pkgsrc.se/shells/es
 * http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/en/man1/es.1.html
 * http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/11297/what-is-your-favorite-shell-zsh-tcsh-bash-other-and-why

Wryun (talk) 06:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries
Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries is part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries 2012, the second annual continent-wide campaign to bring Wikipedia and libraries together with on-site events. Running this fall through October and November, libraries (and archives) will open their doors to help build a lasting relationship with their local Wikipedian community.

Organized by Wikimedia DC, this event will take place on October 12, 2012, and will include new editor training, a "backstage pass" tour of the National Museum of Natural History, and an edit-a-thon. Everyone is welcome to attend!

Kirill [talk] 18:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

DC Meetup #33
December 10 is Ada Lovelace's birthday! Not only was she the world's first computer programmer, but also the world's first female open source developer! Come celebrate with Wikimedia District of Columbia at Busboys & Poets for an informal get together!

The Washington, DC event will be held on Monday, December 10, 2012 at Busboys & Poets on 5th St NW & K St NW near Mt Vernon Square. The area is easily accessible by the Red Line Chinatown stop and the Yellow Line and Green Line Mt Vernon Square stop, as well as by WMATA buses.

Kirill [talk] 14:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia DC Holiday Party and Wiki Loves Monuments Exhibition
Please join Wikimedia DC and four other local media nonprofits—the National Press Club's Young Members Committee, 100Reporters, IRE and the Fund for Investigative Journalism—in winding down another year with a night of well-mannered frivolity.

The festivities will take place on Friday evening from 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM in the Zenger Room on the 13th Floor of the National Press Club, located on 529 14th Street NW, near Metro Center. There will be meat and vegetarian appetizers as well as a cash bar with specially reduced drink prices all night long. In addition, we will be exhibiting the finalists of the Wiki Loves Monuments photo contest at the event.

Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 04:43, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

DC happy hour on Thursday, February 28!
Please join Wikimedia DC for Happy Hour at the Capitol City Brewery at Metro Center on Thursday, February 28 at 6 p.m. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, see Meetup/DC 34. Hope to see you there! Harej (talk) 02:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to a discussion: Wikipedia and legislative data
Hi LFaraone, since you are interested in meetups in DC, I'd like to invite you to attend the Cato Institute's "Wikipedia and Legislative Data" events on March 14. (There's also an all day workshop on March 15; let me know if you are interested, we may be able to add more people.)

There will be an introduction to Wikipedia and open edit-a-thon in the afternoon, and a Sunshine Week Reception in the evening. I hope you can make it!


 * Please sign up here
 * Announcement on Cato's blog
 * Background from Cato sponsor Jim Harper's perspective
 * Background from Wikipedian Pete Forsyth's perspective

Hope to see you there! -Pete (talk) 19:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, March 9!
Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Guapo's at Tenleytown-AU on Saturday, March 9 at 5 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Meetup/DC 35. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 14:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)