User talk:LJ Holden/August 2007 - August 2010

James Muir Cameron (industrialist)
Thanks for starting this article, and the one on his father. I had thought I might do so today, so that's one less task for me. However, I am puzzled by the naming. His surname was Fletcher, so that should appear in the title. How it should be disambiguated from the article on his father I'm not sure; perhaps by using the full name James Muir Cameron Fletcher, or James Fletcher II or James Fletcher Junior. I think I'd favour the "II" or the full name; I don't see much use of the "Junior" other than in Wikipedia. If the name is unique, there's no need to have a disambiguation part to the title, such as (industrialist).- gadfium 20:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, I think the page James Fletcher should become a disambiguation page. The existing entomologist article there is probably not obviously the most famous person of that name. I suggest raising the matter on the talk page and seeing if there are any objection rather than unilaterally moving the page. I'll do it if you like.- gadfium 20:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Destiny New Zealand
Shouldn't it be moved from List_of_political_parties_in_New_Zealand to List_of_political_parties_in_New_Zealand and from Template:New Zealand political parties to Template:Historic New Zealand political parties? — Nightstallion 10:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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Request for input
Hey, I just thought I'd seek your input over on Talk:Main South Line. There's plenty of encyclopaedic info on the Christchurch-Lyttelton section that could be added to Wikipedia and I'd like some thoughts on how to proceed. Thanks! - Axver 03:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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Republican news
Hi! Apart from Australia and Jamaica, which I suppose you're well aware of, there's two more bits of republican good news:
 * Solomon Islands will finally finish its constitutional reform process in October 2008; the new constitution will certainly be republican (though it's a bit difficult to find outright confirmation on this, this draft from some time ago, for instance, also declares the state a republic).
 * There's a rumour running around that Barbados may finally see the republic referendum next month which has been planned since at least 2005.

Cheers! — Nightstallion 23:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Gladly, I thought you might be interested. ;) — Nightstallion 14:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Lewis! I sent the letter to you on address holdenrepublic@gmail.com. right now. Please, answer me as soon, as you can. CrazyRepublican 21:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Address of Barbadian Parliament: parliamentbarbados@caribsurf.com CrazyRepublican 23:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

New NZ railway category
Hi Lholden - just contacting you and a couple of other editors I know of who work on NZR articles to let you know that I've just created, to parallel similar categories for other countries. Haven't really begun to populate it yet (any help you could give there would be useful), but basically I'm just letting you know it's there and can be used. Cheers, Grutness...wha?  23:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Merry HELLOWEEN!!!
Merry HELLOWEEN!!! What news from Barbados? How about PM address? CrazyRepublican 09:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Greenland
I saw your interview on Wikinews, and there's a misconception about Greenland and Denmark that needs to be cleared up. You give Greenland as "an example of a country with a governor-general, but is under direct rule from Denmark." Neither is the case.

Greenland has been constitutionally part of Denmark since 1953, enjoying Home Rule since 1979, and has two seats in the Folketing, as do the Faroe Islands. There is a High Commissioner or Rigsombudsmand who represents the Queen of Denmark as head of state as well as the Danish government. The relationship is similar to the one that New Caledonia has France.

Iceland, on the other hand, retained the Danish monarch as head of state from independence in 1918 until it became a republic in1944. There is an independence movement in the Faroe Islands as well as Greenland, where the possibility of keeping the Queen of Denmark as head of state has been mooted, although you can probably work out how the Republican Party feels about that. Quiensabe 21:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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Monarchy articles
Lholden- I see you've been involved in the editing of New Zealand monarchy and on its talk page. There's presently a poll going on regarding the format of the titles for all Commonwealth realm monarchy articles. If you'd like to register an opinion, please do so here. Cheers. --G2bambino (talk) 16:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Lholden. Why did you co-sign your -vote- at Commonwealth realm monarchies with my moniker? Not offended, just curious. GoodDay (talk) 19:43, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * PS- Actually a better question is, How did you do it. GoodDay (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Chalk it up to a Wikipedia glich. GoodDay (talk) 20:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Barbadian Republic Referendum
What can you add to my opinion on Barbadian Republic Referendum? CrazyRepublican (talk) 10:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulation!!!
Nepal became a Republic!!! CrazyRepublican (talk) 00:44, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Recent bad comments on your talk page
Just thought that you would like to know that I have reported 203.211.73.21 as a suspected sock puppet of the banned user Aidan Work. Spinningspark (talk) 21:33, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Rollback
Would you like to have rollback? It's more efficient for some anti-vandalism purposes than the javascript tools such as Twinkle.- gadfium 04:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Done, and I've replied to you on my talk page.- gadfium 19:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Commonwealth realms
Welcome aboard, Lholden. GoodDay (talk) 21:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Electrical energy in New Zealand
Hi Lholden - could I ask you to provide refs for your recent additions to this article? All but the most generic parts of the article are referenced, and I would like to keep it that way. Thanks! Ingolfson (talk) 05:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Add your special interest
Would you mind adding you interests to our "new" member list!? The link is here. Thanks so much! --Cameron (t|p|c) 20:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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Niuean election
Hi! As you're from NZ, I suppose it's easier for you to find information on the Niuean election yesterday...? I haven't been able to find *anything* on it in the news, which makes me rather sceptic about the validity of the date we've got... Thanks! — Nightstallion 21:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Normally there'd be something on Radio New Zealand International, but the only references I can see anywhere were speculations made in January that an election might be held in April. There's supposed to be one every three years, and the previous one was in 2005. On the other hand, the 2005 election was held on 30 April, and results appeared in mid May, so maybe it's just too early to see any results.- gadfium 21:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Mh. Still, strange... Thanks a lot! — Nightstallion 09:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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CONGRATULATION!!!
Nepal nevertheless became a Republic! Please, clear out Nepal (AND SAMOA!!!) from map of monarchies. I requested to NIGHTSTALLION at first with this question, but he probably sleeps.CrazyRepublican (talk) 23:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

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Discussion on the expansion of Wikiproject:Commonwealth realms
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Tuvalu
See Tuvaluan constitutional referendum, 2008 -- could you find out the exact date? a referendum was held there on 30 April 2008, thought you might want to mention it in your blog... And I suspect the government will hold another vote, as turnout was so low? Any idea where one could find out whether that's likely? Thanks! — Nightstallion 08:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Franks
Please stop adding a reference to Grant Robertson to the page Stephen Franks, not only is this not a verifiable fact, it is irrelevant to the article, at least at this point in time. None of the other pages in Candidates in the New Zealand general election 2008 by electorate refer to their opponents --Wchambers (talk) 09:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Franks
Thank you for negotiating in good faith on the EFA issue --Wchambers (talk) 01:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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Commonwealth Membership
Extract from the 2007 Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting: Final communiqué

88. Heads of Government also agreed that, where an existing member changes its formal constitutional status, it should not have to reapply for Commonwealth membership provided that it continues to meet all the criteria for membership.

http://www.thecommonwealth.org/shared_asp_files/GFSR.asp?NodeID=174533

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Republic of New Zealand Party
I have removed claim of NZRP (an unregistered party) candidate, Bevan Berg being 2nd lowest polling candidate (14 votes) on three grounds. Mel Whaanga, DDP candidate in Northland remains the lowest polling candidate on 10 votes. Fanx (talk) 19:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wrong party - NZRP is not RONZP
 * linked article provided provisional results only - special votes had not been counted
 * Debra Potroz, RONZP candidate in Taupō scored lower (11 votes)

NZ PM List
Thanks, I'm in the middle of updating the layout as well, so it looks like all the other lists/electorates/election summaries etc. Incidently, I've been updating electorate result templates - see Template:MMP election box for details Fanx (talk) 22:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sir John Pearce Luke
Additional information on John Luke kt (1921), CMG (1917).

MP for Wellington Suburbs, Liberal Party (1908-11) and then member for Wellington North, Reform Party (1918-28)-see Wilson, NZ Parliamentary Record p.213.

At the 1931 election, Luke stood as an Independent and was placed third with 2,243 votes-see Habershon, A Study in Politics: 1928-1931, MA Auck, Appendix ix. At p.130 the author says that "Luke, a former mayor of Wellington, seems to have attracted votes from both Labour and Reform". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.86.45.185 (talk) 04:02, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

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The New Zealand Hansard
Can you please give me an exact quote from the Hansard which proves that New Zealand adopted the statute of Westminster in 1947 because of matters to do with Japanese aggression in world war II. Quite frankly, it doesn't make the least sense that there could be any connection whatsever between the two situations.

If what you say is true, then why did they not adopt it in 1942 when Australia did. David Tombe (talk) 06:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply on my own talk page. I shall look forward to seeing the exact details in Hansard when you are next in Auckland. The more that I think about it, the more I realize that there could be no possible link whatsoever between New Zealand's decision to adopt the statute of Westminster in 1947, and Japan's advance in the Pacific in 1942.


 * New Zealand failed to halt that advance just as much as the UK did, and I don't blame either of them because the UK was up against fortress Europe at the time, and New Zealand was helping the British 8th Army in North Africa. A combined strategy involving a large group of allied powers which included both the UK and New Zealand, eventually brought down Germany, Italy and Japan.


 * Curtin in Australia had a run in with Churchill over the return of one of the Australian divisions from North Africa following Japan's entry into the war. Churchill wanted them diverted to Burma, while Curtin wanted them home. I can see both points of view. Churchill, Roosevelt, and Jan Smuts of South Africa understood the necessity of the priority to defeat Germany first. Churchill also obviously felt that India was under a more immediate threat from Japan, than was Australia. Curtin understandably saw the Japanese at his New Guinea doorstep, and considered that to be the priority. He was angry with Churchill and he adopted the statute of Westminster in 1942 in order to give himself the full power to conduct the war as he saw best.


 * New Zealand is a completely different story. I don't doubt that perhaps some New Zealand MP's who were ill disposed to the British Empire, decided in 1947 to take a cheap opportunistic swipe on the back of the 1942 crisis, when the adoption issue was being discussed in the New Zealand parliament in 1947. But I would need to see quotes from Hansard that gave solid evidence that the crisis of 1942 had any bearing on the reasons for the adoption. I would need to see the government's introductory speech when the bill was first introduced in parliament. I would totally disregard any opportunistic whinges about the 1942 crisis, coming from a few anti-British MP's throughout the course of the debate. David Tombe (talk) 11:29, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Lewis Holden
I'm not sure we need the "Lewis Holden is not..." sentences. If we do, then wouldn't logic imply that we would also need "...nor is he....or....or....or....or......" Lanma726 (talk) 07:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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KiwiRail
Hi LHolden, thanks for your reverts on the KiwiRail page. However, just want to clarify with you is KiwiRail an entity, company, railroad. We have something like 3 entries (KiwiRail, Ontrack, NZRC) and they are all basically the same.

Thanks in advance CleanupKiwi (talk) 23:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you please have a look at User:CleanupKiwi/Sandbox1 and let me know what you think think? CleanupKiwi (talk) 01:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Electoral history tables
You may be interested in the discussion at New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board, which was prompted in part by the recent edits at Gerry Brownlee.- gadfium  19:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for peer review: Parliament of the Cook Islands
So, can you take a look at this? I have a formal peer review request in as well, but more eyeballs is good, and you're good at the parliamentary stuff. --IdiotSavant (talk) 12:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

do not delete anything else from the commonwealth page
nominal gdp is more widely regarded than real gdp. i edited down my addition to the page to just listing the nominal gdp. this provides a balance to the real gdp already there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grmike (talk • contribs) 17:09, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Flag of New Zealand.
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Auckland City mayoral election, 2010
Yeah I thought so too. I read your draft article, then just happened to read that newspaper. :) F (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

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Referendum on New Constitution of Saint Vincent
Hello, Lewis! Please look at our talks on NightStallion-talk page. Interesting news about New Republican Constitution Referendum (November, 25th) on Saint Vincent. I believe on RIGHT choice of Vincentians. There are only 11 days to wait.CrazyRepublican (talk) 23:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Mount Albert by-election peer review
I notice you have contributed significantly to Mount Albert by-election, 2009. A peer review of the article has taken place, and your help on fixing the listed criticism would be appreciated. Thanks, Adabow  ( talk )  09:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

WPNZ template
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Provinces of New Zealand
Hello Lholden, I'm assuming that your account on commons is Holden, and if that's correct, then you are the author of. It nicely shows the ten provinces that we've had as shown on Provinces of New Zealand, but the provinces never existed like this simultaneously. As such, it's not strictly correct. I've changed the caption of the map, but mucked it up somewhat, somebody else reverted it, but that also wasn't right. The current caption is my clumsy attempt of rectifying it.

Maybe what we should have is a series of maps, showing the boundaries of the provinces the way things evolved, as follows:
 * 1) the three provinces of 1841
 * 2) going to two provinces in 1846
 * 3) six provinces established in 1853, the nucleus of what we still have today
 * 4) Hawke's Bay split off from Wellington in 1858
 * 5) Marlborough split off from Nelson in 1859
 * 6) Southland split off from Otago in 1861
 * 7) Southland reunited with Otago in 1870
 * 8) Westland split off from Canterbury in 1873

So the 'problem' is that Southland and Westland never existed at the same time.

Can you see yourself producing the series of maps based on what you've already done? If yes, that would be great! A side issue is that this map image should be recreated using vector graphics as an SVG file, according to a note that is with the file.

If we want to go even more fancy, we could create a gif that cycles through those pages. Obviously, that would require that the maps have some labels on them (e.g. the start year as a minimum). I've seen this on some Australian map that cycled through the elections, showing how their states changed from labour to national (or whatever their parties are called there) and back again. Pretty cool stuff. Let me know what you think (you can reply here).  Schwede 66  23:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

New Zealand order of precedence
Heya Lewis, Any chance you could have a look over New Zealand order of precedence. I was always under the impression that the Queen did not appear in teh New Zealand order of precedence, she was skipped over - but of course as HoS she would always rank first. May try and dig up the reference Gazette later. Brian | (Talk) 01:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've got no idea. It seems surprising the Queen wouldn't be included in the order of precedence though. Will look into it. --Lholden (talk) 03:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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Lewis. Thanks for editing my contribution re Ab 745. Have just made acquaintance with the owner Keith Hancock in Waitara. He hosted my wife and I for a couple of days while we looked over the locomotive and toured the Waitara Preservation Society line on one of the motor trolleys. Have some photos of the boiler if you wish to have them posted online. He works on the Ab745 in Stratford every Sunday. Regards. Jim (AKA Sparkyjim) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparkyjim (talk • contribs) 12:21, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Ab steam restoration
Hi LJ Holden. Thanks for editing the AB 745 locomotive details that I attempted to update. Appreciate it. I have just spent a couple of days in Taranaki looking over the loco with Keith Hancock (the owner), and have photos if you need them. Regards.sparkyjim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparkyjim (talk • contribs) 12:26, 24 August 2010 (UTC)