User talk:LaMona/Archives/2016/08

16:18:37, 4 August 2016 review of submission by Majestyk99
Thank you for your input. I tried asking the last reviewer what needed to be changed and received absolutely no help. Had I been told that my citation formatting was wrong (I matched it to one official template but apparently that is no longer in use), that the awards section did not fit the criteria, or that there were too many external links, I would have happily changed them.

Can you please show me an example of how a citation should be formatted? I've seen multiple methods so it would be very helpful to see how it should be done.

Thank you for your time.

-M


 * Hi, User:Majestyk99. First, here on talk pages you need to sign your messages with four tildes, like ~ . Next, the easiest way to format the citations is the use the templates that are in the edit mode. I don't know which mode you are using, but here is a place that gives instructions: Help:Referencing_for_beginners. Basically that will give you boxes to fill in, such as last name, first name, title, etc. You can also ask for help at the teahouse. If you are using the visual editor, the section on that page is Help:Referencing_for_beginners. You probably should scan that entire help page because it has other sections (like reusing references) that can help you. LaMona (talk) 16:32, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Wvhy radio station page
I have added a reference from Fcc web site for my Radio Station Information. I currently have three other pages wgsw, WSIZ and wtty. This is a new radio station that serves a very rural area. It is a brand new station. It's license was issued by the fcc just weeks ago. The Wikipedia article will be added to links in the communitys it serves. There are no articles about this new fm Broadcast station. What else needs to be addressed? I (radio warrior) am the broadcast licence holder. Radiowarrior (talk) 00:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, User:Radiowarrior - Wikipedia is not a directory, it is an encyclopedia. Therefore, it is a compendium of things, places, people who have been proven to be notable. If there are no published articles about this station, then it isn't notable. In fact, small radio stations are often not considered notable. Read Notability_(media), which says " Notability can be established by either a large audience, established broadcast history, or unique programming." However, that notability has to be established through sources. The fact that the FCC licenses it does not make it notable. The articles you have created for the other stations also lack references, and I have marked them as such. Please read WP:N to understand sourcing for Wikipedia. LaMona (talk) 15:38, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Hickies Draft Rejection
Dear Editor,

Thanks for the review! You declined my submission, stating it looked to much like an advertisement. The comment stated that I have a personal affiliation to the company, which I do not. I am currently a Mexican student in my first year of college, and have nothing to do with the company. I am writing about them because they helped my down syndrome brother a lot, and have always wanted to do a Wikipedia article. All of the references I used are third party sources, and I honestly do not understand why it was rejected. The company is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. If you could consider reviewing it in an unbiased way that would be great. (Here is the link Draft:Hickies)

Cheers, Emarcosb (talk) 18:22, 7 August 2016 (UTC)


 * First, I don't know where you get the idea that my review is "biased" - we simply do not allow advertising on WP, and companies must meet WP:CORP. Since I am the second reviewer to reject the draft for that reason, you might want to consider that the article is overly promotional. Of the promotional aspects is the Endorsements section -- which is the result of promotion by the company. ("And to get the brand some glitz, he got a number of athletes and celebrities to try out the product, including Australian triathlete Rebekah Keat, professional golfer Danny Willett, actress Chloe Grace Moretz, designer Diane von Furstenberg, and comedian Baratunde Thurston." - it's an advertising campaign.) And beyond that you haven't shown that there is anything other than business as usual - doing a kickstarter is not notable, having a product is not in itself notable. As for the sources, they must be both third-party and reliable. Press releases, blogs, and sources with no reputation behind them are not reliable. It is always best to limit the article to reliable sources rather than to include ones that do not meet the criteria, even if that means that the article may be shorter. Remember that no article is ever finished, and more can be added later. As for the COI notice, it does NOT say that you have a personal affiliation, it asks for you to state IF you have a personal affiliation. We often ask that of people who have done no editing except to create an article for a company. In many cases the editor is working for the company, and we need to know whether or not that is the case because WP has policies about that. LaMona (talk) 18:55, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

16:50:52, 7 August 2016 review of submission by CASGMT
Hi, just a quick one. Where you say I can't use her own website - do you mean the charity websites?

Thanks. CASGMT (talk) 16:52, 7 August 2016 (UTC)


 * CASGMT, I mean her "Saying Goodby" site, which is written in the first person and is not an independent third-party source. Also her LInkedIn site. LinkedIn cannot be used as a source at all. Ditto her HuffPost profile, which was probably submitted by her. You need well-regarded sources that have published about her. You should avoid PR sites (they exist to promote), blogs, and marginal sites. What you need are regular publications with a good reputation. LaMona (talk) 17:47, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok thanks for your help! Will have another crack. CASGMT (talk) 08:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Request on 21:47:56, 7 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Julie Bif
Hi there! Thank you for your input of Mr. Guest's draft. I have been working on it for a few months and it doesn't seem he is qualified enough, sadly. I was wondering if there was a way I could at least get him a thumbnail in Wikipedia? Would that be possible? He has numerous talents and I think he is well deserved to have at least that! :) Please let me know what you think! Your input makes a lot of sense and I really appreciate it!

Looking forward to hearing back from you! Julie Bif (talk) 21:47, 7 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Julie Bif, no, the only way to have an article in Wikipedia is through notability. There's no "thumbnail" version. Consider, though, that he may become notable in the future, at which point an article would be appropriate. LaMona (talk) 14:29, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Request on 10:11:29, 8 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Hannahmgodfrey
Re-submission of MedAccred page

Hi there,

Thanks for reviewing my first draft of the MedAccred page. I have made changes to the opening line to address your concerns regarding the initial description of the program. Hopefully this is now clear and in much simpler language, avoiding marketing-speak.

Looking forward to receiving additional feedback!

Hannahmgodfrey (talk) 10:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, Hannahmgodfrey, it is clearer now. You have large parts of the article without references, though. Articles must be built from third-party sources about the subject, and all information in the article has to come from those references. No unreferenced information is allowed. You should begin with sources and create the article from those rather than writing an article from knowledge that you have. If there are not enough sources to provide a sufficient article, then the subject does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. LaMona (talk) 14:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Request on 18:08:12, 8 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Julie Bif
So, there is nothing I can do for Mr. Guest? He is an author, professor, musician and lawyer. But since he is not nationally known, he cannot have a Wiki page? A lot of hard work went into this and I really don't want it to not be published somehow. Can I reduce some or do you think that it just won't get approved at all? I really appreciate your input!

Julie Bif (talk) 18:08, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Julie Bif, it's not a question of being nationally known, but of not having been written about in reliable sources that support notability. Read WP:NOTABILITY, WP:MUSICIAN, WP:NACADEMICS. Those explain what the criteria are. For professors, it's being known in their field, holding a named chair, or being highly cited. For musicians it is recording on major labels and charting. For everyone, it is based on sources. (I'm condensing this down quite a bit - you need to read those pages.) And, as I said, for many people, notability may be in their future if it isn't in their present. LaMona (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thank you so much for your input! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie Bif (talk • contribs) 22:57, 8 August 2016 (UTC)