User talk:LaddieJohn

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hellenic Malt Whisky Society (HMWS) (January 28)
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Dan arndt (talk) 13:28, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hellenic Malt Whisky Society (HMWS) (January 29)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Hellenic_Malt_Whisky_Society_(HMWS) Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Dan arndt was: undefined

Dan arndt (talk) 08:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Hellenic Malt Whisky Society (HMWS) Reply
Just because an organization or society exists it does not mean that it is automatically notable and therefore able to have its own Wikipedia page. There are certain criteria that an article is required to satisfy before it is considered acceptable. The basic principle for all articles is that it should have significant coverage in multiple independent verifiable secondary sources. In respect to your draft the only references provided are primary sources (i.e. sources produced by the organisation itself) because they are not independent they are not acceptable or reliable. Similarly social media websites and blogs are not acceptable as they are user generated without any independent editorial oversight (i.e. just because someone posts it doesn't necessarily make it true or accurate). It may be that there just aren’t the secondary sources in respect to the HMWS which would mean that the society is just not notable. Dan arndt (talk) 01:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)