User talk:Ladycamera

Referencing
Please cite full reference, with page numbers for books. "World of the Woodchuck" won't do. Materialscientist (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 01:08, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Hi Ladycamera, i have just reverted your edit at Ernest Thompson Seton, as the Lives of Animals was originally published as 4 volumes, 1925-28. Of course, if there was a notable edition published in 1929, say a consolidation of the 4 volumes into 1 that would be a different matter. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:45, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Ladycamera, here is a response i prepared for you to your reply, now removed, which explains a bit more:
 * Hi Ladycamera, yes i was referring to the Seton page only, i have not done any editing (refactoring or otherwise) on the Groundhog page (if you want to see who has been editing a page just hit the view history tab, as i did with this page when i came back here and saw that your response had changed:)). Anyway, articles with lists of publications generally show the first editions only unless subsquent editions are notable in some way ie. has revised text, illustrations by notable artists, a good example of this is Alice's Adventures in Wonderland which shows numerous editions over the years, but by no means all of them. Hope you continue your fabulous edits like the ones you have done at Groundhog. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:02, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Coolabahapple, Thanks for your response. I admit to being a bit embarrassed at my misunderstanding of your

message. I am new to Wikipedia editing and terminology. In my source citation of Lives of Game Animals on the Groundhog page, I used the 1929 edition I had read, which I hope is appropriate. Thanks for your understanding and kind comment on my groundhog edits. --Ladycamera (talk) 15:11, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Ladycamera, thats cool, may i apologise that no-one has welcomed you to wikipedia, so below is a standard welcome message that includes numerous links which i have found to be extremely useful. ps. it includes another kitten, because i like them:) Coolabahapple (talk) 03:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * Coolabahapple, Thank you so much for the welcome and information! It has been a bit of

a struggle for me, but I did manage to find a few helpful articles. The ones you listed will be of even more help!! There is another page that I would like to edit and have need of guidance regarding upload of images. I did leave a message on the page Talk. By the way, I love cats too. --Ladycamera (talk) 03:20, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Ladycamera, no probs, images are a mystery to me, i can copy them (mainly catpics:)) from Wikicommons but thats about it. You might also like to post your message/question at the Wikiteahouse, which is a great place to get help, as some article talkpages aren't monitored too closely, after all there are around 5million of them. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:55, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Coolabahapple, I just uploaded some images through upload wizard. Old images, 1800s, to use on the Samuel F. Hodge & Company page. Now I am trying to figure out how to add them to that page. If I have trouble, I will ask for help.--Ladycamera (talk) 16:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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Samuel F. Hodge & Company
I'm not sure whether there's anything wrong, but I took a quick look and don't see anything obvious.

I'm sorry no one answered your Teahouse request before it was archived. I normally check for unanswered questions, but I've had computer problems which put me behind schedule.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:28, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see you added a lot more than I thought. I can try to fix the formatting, but at home I can't go to the web sites.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:32, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding. Any help would be appreciated. I have edited the Samuel F. Hodge & Company

page and the Jeanne Robert Foster page encountering similar problems with both. With both pages, I have information/images from family records in my collection. I have a few photos of Jeanne Robert Foster but don't know if I can upload them. One is dated 1923 on the reverse, the other 1924. Another is a photo that has been used on the cover of the Londraville book about her. Another question is how to use a footnote instead of a reference. I realize I am commenting about two separate pages and hope this is not too inappropriate. My knowledge of the Hodge family includes Jeanne Robert Foster.

Info was just moved to Distribution and habitat
Hey so I saw your recent summary on Groundhog and the information wasn't removed it was simply moved to Groundhog, Groundhogs exist all through the US and Canada so it seems strange to have a section specifically about Ohio and Pennsylvanian groundhogs in the lead, it well sourced and interesting it just is better suited for a sub-section. Thanks. Des Vallee (talk) 02:49, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Des Vallee. First of all, information about social relationships of groundhog would not be included in "Groundhog Distribution and Habit" so moving it to that section is inappropriate. Actually, in my opinion, none of the information that was entered in the lead about social relationships is appropriate. It would be more appropriate to include this under "Behavior".

Groundhogs don't exist all through the US and Canada. For example, groundhogs are not found in California. My sources do state that social organization varies across populations. I specifically mentioned Ohio because research on social relationships of groundhogs in that state have been found to differ from studies done elsewhere. In the Ohio study it was found that adult males and females associate with each other throughout the year and often from year to year. This differs from other research. In addition to Pennsylvania, ADM states "With exception of mating season, woodchucks are non-social, and during breeding season, male-female interactions are limited to copulation." Researcher Christine Maher states "woodchucks do not form stable, long-term pair-bonds." ADW states "Woodchucks are territorial and non-social." Kwiecinski states "In general, male and female associations are limited to copulation..."

You have again edited the Wikipedia article to now read "Groundhogs associate differently in different regions with some pairs associating no longer then mating season, while others associate all year." This gives an impression that my cited sources state there are regions other than Ohio where some pairs associate all year. They don't. Even the author of the Ohio study, Paul Meier, states "The social organization of woodchucks in Ohio differs from that described in previous studies of woodchucks elsewhere and from that predicted by current models proposed by others on the evolution of social organization of marmots." You will need to find and cite a source that states that there are other regions than Ohio where pairs associate all year in order for you to state that in the article. So I am changing the article again.

On a personal level, I would agree that there is at least one other state where woodchuck males and females associate with each other throughout the year and also from year to year. That comes from my documented observational studies of over 18 years in Michigan which has been shared with other marmot researchers. Ladycamera (talk) 07:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


 * So I didn't mean that Groundhogs are found in California instead that Groundhogs are found all across both the US and Canada so having a specific location on localized groundhog behavior is odd, yes it's well sourced but in general it doesn't quite belong on the lead, I am also will change "all year" to "longer periods of time", however if even one sub population of Groundhogs associate all year, no matter how rare, the information is still non the less correct. Des Vallee (talk) 01:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)