User talk:Lamorak/Archive1 2006 - June 2008

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Anonymous anonymous 09:39, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Calvin
Hi, you wrote me this email:


 * I saw your remark in the discussion section of the Calvin article. I also am very interested in shaping/contributing to the Calvin and Servetus episode, one that is factual and an accurate POV. The main issue is that I'm fairly new to wikipedia procedures and cooperation, and I'm hesitant to add a lot of detail or do a major rewrite (if it requires that) of a section in a "popular" article. Also I don't want to duplicate what others might be doing, I'd rather cooperate and do what is needed.


 * I have access to a lot of different sources, including most of those listed (McGrath, Cottret, etc). I think to understand the episode of Calvin and Servetus its necessary to detail the political and social situation in Geneva (as McGrath and others have done), which includes the councils, citizenship, voting rights, refugees from France and the role of the consistory. It would also help to have information on the previous meetings or correspondence between Calvin and Servetus, the role of the other Swiss Reformation citieswith Servetus - and how they treated their own heretics, etc. If I write this all up - with reference to sources of course - would you bewilling to review it and recommend possible changes?


 * And, if this isn't how Wikipedians "do" things, I apologize for any ignorance or offense on my part. Wikipedia practical procedures are murky and largely unknown to me, and I haven't come across any "show me how to do it" Wikipedian mentors yet.

You can see that someone else has already taken a swipe at that section, but feel free to get involved, add sources, etc. to help improve it further. The section should strive for factual accuracy, but it's length should be commensurate with that of the rest of the article so as not to give undue weight to that one incident (certainly it is important, but it is not more important than many other things that should be mentioned and thus should not dwarf their significance with too much text and explanation).

As for procedures, talk pages (like this one and Talk:John Calvin) are generally used for user-to-user communication, and you should feel free to address concerns or potentially significant changes for articles on the pages for the article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page. --Fl e x (talk|contribs) 19:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Christianity
Hi, I saw your name on the WikiProject Christianity Membership page.

I've made some changes to the WP Christianity main project page, added several sup-project pages, created a few task forces section, and proposed several more possible changes so that we can really start making some serious progress on the project. Please stop by and see my comments on the project talk page here and consider joining a task force or helping out with improving and contributing to our sub-projects. Thanks for your time! Nswinton 14:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Dispensationalism
I also have a strong interest in improving the dispensationalism pages, and would like to coordinate efforts together. The Dispensationalist Theology page especially needs revamping. Lamorak (talk) 18:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello, Lamorak. Right now, there is a mention of "discontinuity" on either the plain Dispensationalism page or the Dispensational Theology page. I forget which. I'm researching that issue in a Book titled "Hermeneutics" by Henry M. Virkler, who mentions same. Virkler, however, is a psychologist who apparently has studied these things so I'm not inclined to accept everything that he has to say. When somebody says there is "discontinuity" in the covenants, then I get suspicious. My "heroes" and role models in this vein are J. Dwight Pentecost, John F. Walvoord, and Dave Hunt, to name a few. I was tempted to e-mail Hunt on this matter. I've certainly mentioned some of this to Terry James of Rapture Ready. We communicate rather regularly via e-mail. He's busy now and I don't know if either he or Todd Strandberg even have time for something like this.


 * First off, I strongly recommend that, if you can, that you have a copy of J. Dwight Pentecost's "Things to Come" tome. It was (and maybe still is) used as a text book at Dallas Theological Seminar. I also have a book listing on my userpage which may prove helpful. The concepts presented are pretty complex. I can deal with most of them but this discontinuity issue being mentioned does have me thinking because it implies that God is no longer dealing with covenants that he made with the Israelites, which simply isn't true. I don't think we should delete that reference yet until we have a strong argument against it. I'll leave you with these thoughts for now. Some other matter just came up that I have to attend to. Thanks for approaching me on this subject.--MurderWatcher1 (talk) 19:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: I deleted that "discontinuity" nonsense some days ago. I've done other minor edits since. Page still needs research and work on my part. The only author who ever used the "discontinuity" term is Henry M. Virkler in his book "Hermeneutics". This man is a psychologist so, while he may be qualified to discuss Hermeneutics, I disagree with his discontinuity discussion. He's the only writer that I could find using this term. It's just plain 'wrong' thinking and incorrect to say that dispensationalists believe in discontinuity. I'm a dispensationalist and I had never heard that term before, either in a sermon, a book or other reference.--MurderWatcher1 (talk) 17:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)