User talk:Lamperdamper

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LukeEmily (talk) 12:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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Adding material that isn't supported by the supplied source
Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. OhNo itsJamie Talk 13:54, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the input User:Ohnoitsjamie

Misrepresentation of sources
No source describes Vikram Batra by his caste contrary to your claim here. Your misrepresentation of  NPOV makes no sense either. Furthermore, how caste is exactly important to mention for this subject per WP:UNDUE? Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 10:06, 24 September 2021 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikram_Batra&diff=1045746653&oldid=1045356140

Hi Aman Aman Kumar Goel,

According to you, "No source describes Vikram Batra by his caste contrary to your claim". I think original research on Wiki is not allowed

Sources :-

Times of India : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/captain-vikram-batras-parents-interview-on-son-dimple-cheema-siddharth-malhotra-kiara-advani-and-shershaah-our-son-wanted-to-do-something-in-life-exclusive/articleshow/85514553.cms

Indian Express : https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/vikram-batras-parents-say-shershaah-well-made-open-up-about-dimple-cheema-said-she-would-live-with-his-memories-7465247/

News18 : https://www.news18.com/news/movies/captain-vikram-batras-parents-on-why-they-liked-sidharth-malhotra-as-their-son-in-shershaah-4112465.html

Samachar : https://www.newssamachar.com/shershaah-review-story-of-a-brave-son-of-a-middle-class-family/

The above sources have referenced Girdhari Lal Batra (Vikram's father) claiming to be from a "Punjabi Khatri family". I think 3-4 news sources are enough to claim the authenticity. It is important to represent his genealogy because it is often mistaken. Furthermore, in this particular interview GL Batra has himself claimed his family origin two times, at approximately 3 and 9 minutes. Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybfWrke9CE I agree that confining a national hero like Batra under a tag of caste might not be good but in this situation mentioning a person's family origin is important because people tend to "claim" these heroes under their identity for the vested interests.

The above sources are okay under WP:RS. Also, WP:UNDUE says the following in its wiki article; "Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources." Here, you are trying to suppress a minority viewpoint by undoing sourced claims hence breaking a crucial Wikipedia rule.

If you still have different views, please discuss further in the Talk section of the main article. Thankyou. (PS : I am against casteism and is only interested in it out of educational view only)

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