User talk:Larry Hockett/Archive 12

About becoming an administrator
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RileyBugz Yell at me &#124; Edits  22:01, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I don't have a need for the tools, but I do think that ORCP is a neat thing for people who are looking in the direction of adminship. EricEnfermero (Talk) 01:18, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it would be generally useful I think. I mean, you would be able to just delete articles that meet the CSD criteria without having to request it, you will be able to block serious vandals instead of just reverting them, etc. Of course, it is your decision, but I think that you would do well and improve Wikipedia with the tools. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  01:56, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Recommendations?
Hello again. Do you, by chance, know an editor who enjoys reviewing for GA? I'm asking because Leon Day is still waiting for a helping hand. All the while, I also expanded another article (music-related) for GA and I want to be able to focus entirely on one review at a time if possible. I realize there is a backlog at GA so if it is just a matter of being patient I can do that as well. Thanks for any help you can give.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:29, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep - timing with GAs is always tricky; either two of your noms sit for a long time and then both get picked up by separate reviewers at the same time, or one sits there forever and gets reviewed right when you have 20 things up in the air off-wiki and you're as busy as you could possibly be. :)
 * With Leon Day, I was worried that I had contributed to it significantly, which would make it a good idea to abstain from the review. However, looking back at the page history, I think my memory of my contributions must have been exaggerated. I didn't actually do that much for the article. I wouldn't mind reviewing the Day entry, though I might not be able to get started until later in the week.
 * If you were to run into this issue down the road, I don't think it would be too annoying to post a note at WT:BASEBALL letting people know that your nom has been there for a bit and asking whether anyone would be able to review it. EricEnfermero (Talk) 02:10, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Based on our interactions, I think you would give it a thorough review. Another week is a small price to pay for that. If you change your mind at any point beforehand I can always do the second thing you recommended. Thank you for your offer.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 05:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

 * please help translate this message into your local language via meta

Thanks again :-) --  Doc James  along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks I actually have been editing for 9 months I just never made an account until now I just wanted to fix the words so when people read them they won't read the bad language anyway thanks and good night... JJMachine24 (talk) 06:20, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. See WP:BOWDLERIZE for the guideline that talks about not turning words into asterisks. EricEnfermero (Talk) 06:23, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Thanks a lot! Very kind of you. EricEnfermero (Talk) 07:15, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

FLC review request
Hey EricEnfermero! Could I trouble you to please help review my current FLC nom? It's been open since January and I already appealed to the WikiProject to no avail. So I'm kinda desperate for reviews. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:46, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure! I admit to not having much experience at FLC, but I'll take a look this weekend. EricEnfermero (Talk) 20:54, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Eric, sorry to trouble you again. Could you please take a look at another FLC nom of mine that has been open since March?  Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I just realized that I neglected to comment on this one. I was on vacation when I got your message and it just slipped my mind after that. Congrats on the promotion. Happy to help in the future. EricEnfermero (Talk) 18:59, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No probs, don't worry about it. I saw your TP message beforehand and was expecting you to be less active on WP.  Thanks for the kind words, and I too will be delighted to help you on any future GANs of yours! —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:05, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Message from User:Ap718
Eric, So great to have other nurses in Wikipedia! It's a bit overwhelming for busy nurses to figure out Wikipedia, but they are making some great additions. Any recommendations for new editors, e.g. resources other than the standard Wiki documents or things you wish you had known when you started! Any advice would be appreciated!

Here's to answering nursing's social mandate in new and open-sourced ways! Ap718 (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a great question. I think we look mostly at WP guidelines because it's the easiest way to try to get tons of editors to do things the same way most of the time. I do understand that it's hard to learn all of those guidelines though. Since mistakes are sort of expected on some level, I think it's just really important for new editors to remain open to feedback from others.
 * My initial approach was just to begin by making small changes and watching the subsequent edits of experienced editors on those pages. (I did have more time to get accustomed to things because I wasn't editing within the timeframe of a class.) I'm happy to help if you run into specific difficulties though! EricEnfermero (Talk) 09:40, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

AN/I
As you participated in Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive957, you may be interested in Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 03:42, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Revert
I saw this and realized you're right, but... IRL I was a text editor. Extra spaces were a no-no. Some habits are hard to break. Then again, if an article has a large amount of double or triple spaces, those are a waste of storage space, right? — Myk Streja ( what? ) 22:09, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'm not sure how storage space factors in. EricEnfermero (Talk) 22:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Happy 4th of July!
Best wishes for a wonderful Independence Day for you and yours! Lepricavark (talk) 03:20, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! To you as well. EricEnfermero (Talk) 23:24, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Editing User Talk
Hello, I'm 1994JUNHEE. I noticed you mistakenly undid some edits on A.C.E so I would like to confirm the facts with some sources on [| Filmography]: members Wow and Donghun did not appear on I Need A Romance 3 (only member Jun did) source: | I Need A Romance 3.

Also, I would like to add: members Wow and Donghun appeared as backup dancers on [| Hi.Ni's Clutch Bag MV].

Thank you! 1994junhee (talk) 06:42, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There was no mistake that I can find. I cannot find anything in the YouTube videos that describes the roles of any of these people. Thanks. EricEnfermero (Talk) 06:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello

 * It was the minors. It's best not to add teams from past years to the infobox. People are pretty active on baseball articles, so they've usually gone in and added all of the appropriate teams already. EricEnfermero (Talk) 19:58, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I appreciate it, sir. Very thoughtful of you. EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. I was looking back at some of the work we did on the Joe West article several years ago. Getting that promoted to GA was one of my finest accomplishments as a Wikipedian, and it never would have happened without you. Lepricavark (talk) 03:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Easton Corbin
Is there a reason you undid my addition of a link to A Girl Like You (Easton Corbin song)? That article does exist. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I must have inadvertently triggered rollback, possibly from my mobile device. I apologize to you. EricEnfermero (Talk) 02:52, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

MOS:DATEVAR
Thanks for the lesson. I see the standard date is largely based on the original setup. Will comply. Fb2002 (talk) 03:41, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Bugg's Sandbox Chaos
I know I did something that a vandal would do, but thank you for alerting me Bugg Bulborb (talk) 01:22, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Jets
any idea where the vandalism was emanating from? Probably a Patriots forum or maybe a radio show in New England. I'd like to see the articles you mentioned when you get the chance.  Enigma msg  20:05, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know where the effort was organized, but here is one of several articles to pick up the issue. They all reported it as a Google Search issue, but WP is mentioned in at least one of the articles' comment sections. Doing a Google News search for Tom Brady owner still turns up the coverage of the erroneous search results, though the actual search results were corrected when we got a handle on our Jets entry. EricEnfermero (Talk) 20:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the Google results were based off Wikipedia. I went to one forum and found this reacting to Google.  Enigma msg  20:54, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, it spread all over.    Now users are dismayed that the incorrect info isn't coming up anymore.  Enigma msg  20:58, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's amusing to me because Brady "owns" other teams more than the Jets. The Jets have beaten him several times in recent seasons, and the Jets even beat New England in the playoffs with Brady under center.  Enigma msg  20:59, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm just a little surprised that this many sportswriters jumped on this. I'm assuming they don't know where that Google search information comes from. I do feel bad that Google is getting the brunt of it and that it's being referred to as a "glitch". EricEnfermero (Talk) 21:02, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Few are aware of where the 'snapshot' information on Google, Bing, etc. comes from. Definitely not a glitch. Nothing they can do when trolls overwhelm Wikipedia.  Enigma msg  21:14, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Something similar just happened at Robert Kraft. Retribution for the vandalism to the Jets articles? Crazy.  Enigma msg  02:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry
I must have hit the button in Huggle about the same time you reverted the vandalism. Thanks and sorry for the mistake. Donner60 (talk) 03:16, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem! I figured it was something like that. EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:18, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Joe Mande
Why do you keep reverting the information about Joe Mande? It is not an opinion. It is cited by news sources. Some of the sources are interviews from Joe Mande himself. Mande is a self-described Internet troll. Wikipedia shouldn't let anyone hide behind Internet trolling simply because they have a following as a comedian. That's an occupational bias. It is important information to identify trolling in this new age of the Internet.
 * I beg to differ. The most important job of an encyclopedia is to neutrally put together information from reliable sources. When we try to shoehorn in information from iffy sources using creative wording to support some questionable assertions, that falls more under original research. Instead of being an important priority for an encyclopedia, original research (including the identification of people we think to be Internet trolls) is something to be avoided entirely. EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

EricEnfermero, if you say Wikipedia doesn't label people things like "Internet troll" even though in this case Mande has previously identified himself as an Internet troll countless times then why do people like Kenneth McCarthy a.k.a Ken M, who also have gained a following through the Internet using comedy like Mande, have the title of "Internet troll" on their Wikipedia page? It sounds to me that you are not properly upholding Wikipedia objective standards, but are rather picking and choosing based on your personal bias. If you disagree, please explain? Otherwise, allow the change in simply giving Mande the title of Internet troll in addition to the other titles he claims. The Internet is not meant to be some of alternative comedy club stage because anybody can use the Internet.
 * I am going on good faith that you're a pretty intelligent person, and if you're as smart as I think you are, you'll be able to reread your last message above and see how silly it looks. When I tell you that neutral wording is the second of the five things Wikipedia wants us to really remember (known as the Five Pillars), I am certainly not saying that I have read and assessed all of Wikipedia's articles for neutrality. After all, there are >5.4 million of them. If I come across an article with a vague and unclear descriptor and there's an easy way to rewrite that in a professional tone, I should do it, even if there are other articles I haven't gotten to yet. This is really not the place to make a point about someone or to make an example of them; that's would be very unprofessional of us. EricEnfermero (Talk) 01:57, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi EricEnfermero, I'm curious to know what part of the last message directed at you did you find the need to doubt the person's intelligence? Can you specifically quote the part that you found unintelligent? I understand Wikipedia's "neutral wording" policy and the fact that you can't monitor every single Wikipedia page but the previous comment was asking if a subject like "Ken M" can be titled an Internet troll on Wikipedia why can't "Joe Mande" who has admitted to being those words? Also, it's strange that in the same comment in which you mention professionalism, you open with this line "I am going on good faith that you're a pretty intelligent person, and if you're as smart as I think you are, you'll be able to reread your last message above and see how silly it looks." which could have been omitted entirely. Nonetheless, I think we can both agree that the subject being discussed is about as smart as the current U.S. President he makes fun of, using vulgarity much like his reality-show star President has done in the past. Although, I don't think the previous comments were about making Mande an example, but rather about being equal with everybody. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.217.15.160 (talk) 22:11, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


 * That's just it... even a not-so-close reading of my reply should indicate that I don't doubt the editor's intelligence. Lots of things could have been omitted in this sequence of events, starting with the assertion that we should add material to WP with the goal that a celebrity's unintelligent fans will see him the way a particular editor sees him. EricEnfermero (Talk) 01:14, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

All of you are giving this guy Joe Mande way too much attention than he deserves. He hasn't become moderately-known for his comedy but rather for mentioning the names of people who are actually famous on Twitter and/or in his stand-up, even recruiting ignorant athletes like Blake Griffin to be part of his gimmick. Mande is as successful as a comedian as Trump is as a politician. They both have the position they desired but got the position through gimmicks rather through any kind of skills. Mande is every definition of the words "Internet troll" and based on the cited sources has consistently been for years, no matter how much Wikipedia moderators want to make him appear to be just an innocuous comedian. Anyway, how about we stop giving Mande even more Internet attention that he seeks. What is written on his Wikipedia page is true and has been modified and verified by Wikipedia moderator, EricEnfermero. So, how about Wikipedia moderators work both ways and prevent any subjective info on the subject's page to make him look worse while also undoing any blanking of objectively written and cited info to make him look better. Also, if you're going to quote him in saying "I don’t wake up in the morning and rub my hands together thinking about who I’m going to mess with today." be fair and use the entire quote: "I love the fact that these retarded celebrities share their thoughts. That’s my favorite thing. It’s so much fun to do, but I don’t wake up in the morning and rub my hands together thinking about who I’m going to mess with today." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.137.121.67 (talk) 15:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Agreed that this is dragging on a bit too long - and I think that extensive discussion of the wording in an article should be conducted on the article's talk page. As far as I know, WP doesn't have a role known as moderator. They have a few titles for editors that have responsibilities outside of editing articles, but I don't hold any of those titles. EricEnfermero (Talk) 15:28, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Céleste Mogador
Thank you for your review. I have done some rewording as per your suggestion. --Big_iron (talk) 12:54, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Updating information on Dianrongs Wiki today
Hey Eric,

I wanted to give you a heads up. I will be adding the following content to the Dianrong site but need a little help. I am going to update the tabl of contents and much of the content on the page will be modified with citations as well. I added it here below to get your feedback. Please advise

Table of Contents:

1. History 2. Key Milestones & History 3. Dianrong Overview

3.1 Core Technology 3.2 Technology Licensing Agreements 3.3 Risk Management 3.4 Supply-Chain Finance 3.5 Product Offerings

Do you see any issues? I will be updating this soon so please contact me prior. Thanks Eric Seoterry805wiki (talk) 15:41, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The table of contents will update automatically as you add section headings to the entry, but there's really not enough content here to speculate on whether your planned contributions will meet WP guidelines. I do see that one of the headings refers to an overview - but the lead section of a WP article serves as an overview and as a summary of the content covered in the rest of the entry. EricEnfermero (Talk) 16:19, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Pardon My Take
Regarding this revert: it's safe to always assume anything added by IPs or new editors related to Pardon My Take (and possibly Barstool Sports by extension) to be vandalism. I've never listened to the podcast but they apparently must frequently encourage vandalizing Wikipedia articles, because I can't tell you how many times I've reverted stuff that I later found out was due to something that was said on it. Check out the page history for Jay Glazer on October 10, 2016. Certainly their listeners must view them as comedic geniuses. Lizard (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice. I thought I had noticed the same connection, but I wasn't sure. When semi-reliable sources like Yahoo! Sports pick up stories like that, it makes me scratch my head. Slow news day, maybe? EricEnfermero (Talk) 19:46, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yahoo Sports aggregates a lot of their stories from blogs. That particular story is from Cover32.com. Can't say I've ever heard of that site before. Lizard  (talk) 22:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

added link Pie, Mash & Liquor Appreciation Society
I hope this is a talk page for EricEnfermero if not please ignore and delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbooks (talk • contribs) 03:55, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * This is still the right place. Please ask me your question... but please do not re-add that Facebook link again. WP:ELNO #10 gives clear guidance to leave it out. EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Just a test please ignore
Just a test please ignore just trying to understand how to input a message for[talk] Footballbooks (talk) 04:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * - You've gotten it right three times now on this page and once on your own talk page. What you need to do now is ask your actual question so that you can receive the help you need. Your only stumbling block with article editing is a very clear-cut issue, so I am not sure how to help you from here. EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Pie and Mash
I hope this is a talk message for EricEnfermero if not please ignore or delete
 * Yes, this is the right place. EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Just worked it out new talk message shows at bottom, I was looking at top can you please delete other 'please ignore messages plez — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbooks (talk • contribs) 04:23, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

The Pie and Mash page is well out of date can I please add an external link to a Facebook group ( I am just a member) called Pie, Mash & Liquor Appreciation Society which has 10,000 members who eat this historic meal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballbooks (talk • contribs) 04:27, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Adding a social media link won't help bring the page into a more current state. See WP:ELNO #10 again; read it, digest it, become one with it. :) EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:32, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Now Understood Thank You--Footballbooks (talk) 04:37, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Also can we use a 'Internet Archive:Wayback Machine' entry 2004 as a citation/proof of?--Footballbooks (talk) 04:34, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, we do that from time to time, but I answer cautiously because I don't know what you're planning to add and you're not building a great track record so far. EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Until I get to know all rules and regs I will just quickly run anything past you first before any change ~ Thanks for all your help--Footballbooks (talk) 04:41, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you'll find that to be unnecessary (and failing that, I'll definitely find it to be unnecessary). Most of the time, if you adhere to the five pillars and then remember to stop adding something when another editor removes it and corrects you, I think you'll be fine. EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:45, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Helen Quach
Alex ShihTalk 01:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Frank Lowy
It's actually a fact that Frank Lowy isa tax dodger (see: the LGT scandal 2008). It's very very suspicious how quick you are to take down anything in relation to that. Almost like you're paid to hide this fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:5545:4B00:DC49:F605:B30B:E8C4 (talk) 09:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It's just how we would word things on Wikipedia. I am quick to take down poorly sourced assertions or broad generalizations whenever I come across them. It's not that I am really being protective of any entry; it's just that your writing style immediately stuck out as inappropriate. We do need to be honest and to include appropriately placed and well-referenced mentions of significant biographical facts, but we also need to write them in a way that would be consistent with encyclopedic style. EricEnfermero (Talk) 09:50, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Nursing
NURSING - (Do I leave message here, idk) Anyway, so basically what I did was I read on another website about nursing, and later came to the wiki site, however, I noticed some lines were exactly the same. I found the information came from a website and so I simply cited the source of the line that came from the website. I'm sure there was more plagerism, but that was enough to sell me on it. I hope I'm leaving this in the right place. Anyways thanks for your input. Tessa Bennet (talk) 06:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I noticed that you added a reference, but that reference seemed to be the website of a facility, which would be a poor source for material about nursing history. In those cases, the usual approach is to delete the copyright-violating material, find a reliable source (maybe a nursing history book in this case), and use it to place new material in our own words. Thanks! EricEnfermero (Talk) 12:28, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Supervolcano edits
The change I made to the supervolcano page was not a mistake. Please check out the USGS page and the following academic sources. This term in causing chaos in my field of work, and wayyyy to many people reference wikipedia instead of academic journals. Therefore I am changing wikipedia to reflect the findings in academic literature. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.I would be more than happy to discuss.

The review below is a compilation of all the articles produced in a Google Scholar and EBSCO Host search of the term ‘supervolcano’. The search was limited to include only peer-reviewed academic journals.

Simon, J. I., Weis, D., DePaolo, D. J., Renne, P. R., Mundil, R., & Schmitt, A. K. (2014). Assimilation of preexisting Pleistocene intrusions at Long Valley by periodic magma recharge accelerates rhyolite generation: rethinking the remelting model. Contributions to Mineralogy and Petrology, 167(1), 955. Watts, K. E., Bindeman, I. N., & Schmitt, A. K. (2012). Crystal scale anatomy of a dying supervolcano: an isotope and geochronology study of individual phenocrysts from voluminous rhyolites of the Yellowstone caldera. Contributions to Mineralogy and Petrology, 164(1), 45-67. Erratum to: Zircon-scale insights into the history of a Supervolcano, Bishop Tuff, Long Valley, California, with implications for the Ti-in-zircon geothermometer https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00410-010-0564-5 Wilcock, J., Goff, F., Minarik, W. G., & Stix, J. (2012). Magmatic recharge during the formation and resurgence of the Valles Caldera, New Mexico, USA: evidence from quartz compositional zoning and geothermometry. Journal of Petrology, 54(4), 635-664. Miller, C. F., & Wark, D. A. (2008). Supervolcanoes and their explosive supereruptions. Elements, 4(1), 11-15. Jones, M. T., Sparks, R. S. J., & Valdes, P. J. (2007). The climatic impact of supervolcanic ash blankets. Climate Dynamics, 29(6), 553-564. Mason, B. G., Pyle, D. M., & Oppenheimer, C. (2004). The size and frequency of the largest explosive eruptions on Earth. Bulletin of Volcanology, 66(8), 735-748. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geogal3451 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I restored the templates and image filenames at the top of the article. EricEnfermero (Talk) 20:18, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 8/25/2017 - Eric, no problem at all :D :D Thanks for hearing me out. Would you be able to take the VEI 7 volcanoes off that graphic? I can do it if you cannot, but I figure you have the original file. Please just let me know :D Thanks!
 * I don't have it, but if you click on any image, it should take you to an information page that includes that the original uploader's username. EricEnfermero (Talk) 13:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:ERRORS revert
I'm puzzled why you reverted my edits to WP:ERRORS? The first edit was removing old and resolved discussion (which is what is done on that page, look at the history) and the second was noting an update. Thryduulf (talk) 20:46, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah you self reverted with an explanatory edit summary while I was writing the above! Thryduulf (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry, and then I ran into an edit conflict while replying to this. My apologies! EricEnfermero (Talk) 20:49, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Sha Tin College
Are all those SPA editing socks, disgruntled, or drunk students? Jeez... Thanks! Jim1138 (talk) 07:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping they're drunk. :) Thanks for your help. EricEnfermero (Talk) 07:33, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Genders of Healthcare providers
There was an interesting Talk-post on the Nursing page regarding Nursing Gender section. It may be good to push this to the main page. Please review this suggestion and if appropriate update the main page. Thanks. 141.213.168.104 (talk) 18:05, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Tris Speaker hit total
In his inbox, his hit total is listed at 3,515, although on 2 other spots on the page is listed at 3,514. MLB lists his hit total at 3,515, but The Hall of Fame site, Baseball Almanac, Baseball Reference, Fangraphs, Retrosheet,The Baseball Nexus,Find a Grave, The Baseball Cube, ESPN, and the Official Website of Tris Speaker to name a few list his hit total at 3,514. Me and someone else tried reverting to 3,514 but was reverted back within the hour within the last 6 months.It should be 3,514 for the sake of consistency.See what you can do and thank you for your time. Have a good day.2601:581:8500:949C:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk) 15:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I do see one edit in which User:Philippe277 attempted to change the hit total, but I don't see anything more than that in the last few months. The edit probably came across as suspicious because it changed a statistic on a long-retired player without leaving an edit summary. I wasn't the editor who reverted in this case, but I understand why it raised concern; we see some instances where people will subtly vandalize articles with minor but erroneous changes, so it might have come across that way. I do note that the reverting editor did provide a brief but clear edit summary.
 * Please note that the best place to discuss article content is really at the article talk page. If you don't get a response there, a message at WT:BASEBALL may do the trick. It's usually unnecessary to leave more than a couple of edits at anyone's user talk page anyway; multiple messages will cause edit conflicts when the user tries to respond to you. You can use the Show Preview button before saving in order to avoid the need for several edits. If your message still isn't just right after a couple of saved edits, personally I would just leave it and then work it out once the user responds to you.
 * Thanks for bringing this up and for thinking about my additional suggestions. I look forward to looking at this and commenting on the discussion when you raise it on the talk page. EricEnfermero (Talk) 21:59, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your time, went to that site WT:BASEBALL and left something on the talk page about my issue. Let's see what happens. Have a good evening.2601:581:8500:949C:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk) 23:03, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

WP:BLPPRIMARY
Do not restore primary sources in violation of WP:BLPPRIMARY, as you did in. I'm getting tired of removing BLP violations from this article, and there will be blocks soon. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:58, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that wasn't my intent with the revert. I hope that you can understand that this might have been a bit of an overreaction to what are most likely good-faith attempts on all sides of the asinine ""My name is not David!" thing. EricEnfermero (Talk) 15:04, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you're talking about, and I don't care. I have no clue who this person, what his full name is, or what disputes there may be over it.  However, it is a BLP violation to use primary sources in a BLP in the way that you did, and I'm surprised that you have pending changes reviewer permission if you think this is allowed.  Do not add any more primary sources to BLPs. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:06, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'm clear on the policy but reverted an edit after misreading it. EricEnfermero (Talk) 15:15, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Reverting my edit
Hi I see that you reverted my edit to the Miz's pages category section. I thinks it looks better in alphabetical order which looks more organized and should be kept that way. Davidgoodheart (talk) 23:16, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry! That was a mistaken push of a button from a mobile device and I didn't even realize that I had done it until I saw your message. I make mistakes occasionally, but today that's at least two big ones. Apologies again. EricEnfermero (Talk) 23:23, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Re:Danny Taylor (baseball) article
Hello. Yesterday I made additions to the article which you cleaned up. However, when I access that Wikipedia article the old article before yesterday pops up and not the new article.The only way I get to the new article is through the View history section. I am sure it is an easy fix. Also ,in first paragraph where it says got 3 consecutive hits and stole a base should be changed or modified. It seems too vague and mundane and presents nothing significant. For 7 years I have been making subtle changes or additions but I don't like deleting someone's original entry .Maybe you can come up with something a little better to improve the content. Also nothing on the Tris Speaker issue yet. Wanted to let you know about the issues. Thank you for your help and have a good day.2601:581:8500:949C:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk) 15:00, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Good morning. I'm not sure what the issue is with the version of the article that displays. If you go into WP and access it by typing the name of the article into the search box at the upper right corner, I would think you'd automatically see the most recent version. I took out the mention of the non-notable game; I had seen that earlier and I meant to take it out at the time. I'm having some problems with my home internet, and it's not feasible to add much sourced content to articles from my mobile device, but I can return to it once I get back up and running.
 * I noticed that no one has weighed in on the Speaker hits issue. I know that there was already a thread about the issue on the Speaker talk page, but you might reply to that thread and just say that you are trying to follow up on the issue. That would be a good reminder for people who are interested in that page but who don't follow the discussions at WT:BASEBALL.
 * I can tell you that some people don't enjoy arguing over these minor statistical inconsistencies - and I don't really blame them. In the end, we're dealing with at least two reputable sources - BR and MLB itself - on a disagreement of one hit out of several thousand. Hopefully we can just agree to pick one or the other and then add a footnote to the entry indicating that other sources have this other hit total. EricEnfermero (Talk) 15:38, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the Brick Owens injury info
I notice that the page you sent me -- http://retrosheet.org/umpgmchg.htm -- does not mention John McSherry's death during the Reds game on opening day of 1996. I suppose technically it's not an injury if you suffer a fatal heart attack (and since it caused the postponement of the game, I guess technically it wasn't during a game after all), but you'd think retrosheet would have found a place for such an event in their list, huh?

Anyway, I used that excellent resource to re-update the Brick Owens page on Wikipedia, pointing out that it seems that the 8/20/1912 game is the one and only one in which more than one umpire was forced to leave the same game due to injury. Thanks again!
 * I think you're right; rather than a huge oversight, I think it's just that the incident doesn't align with the purposes of those lists. I think the game would be on that list if they had wheeled McSherry off and then the 2B umpire (Rippley) had to come in and put plate gear on to finish the game with a three-man crew. Instead, everyone was traumatized and they rescheduled the game for another day, so there was really no umpire "change" - at least that day.
 * There are two other lists linked there. One of them (about umpires arriving late to games) is obviously irrelevant, but I thought the game might be on the third list - umpire crew changes resulting from suspended games that were later finished with different crews. However, looking into it some more, I see that this game wasn't actually suspended. Since it was only a few pitches into the game, they cancelled the game and rescheduled one that would start completely over. I think that's why, stats-wise, it's like "the McSherry game" never officially happened.
 * An interesting note about these lists: I think they were largely or entirely the work of a man named David Vincent. He was a very intriguing guy; he had a doctorate in music and was a band director, and then he became a computer programmer, and later he became the official scorer for the Washington Nationals and a founding officer for Retrosheet. When I was working on a piece for a SABR publication last year, David sent me some amazing data through a mutual connection that made my task ten times easier. Sadly, he died in July of cancer. He did a lot for SABR and for baseball research in general; he was maintaining a meticulous database of every known MLB home run, for example. I was glad to see that his death was widely acknowledged; he had obits at MLB.com, The New York Times, Washington Post, and USA Today, to name a few.
 * Thanks for your work on umpire stuff! Let me know if I can help with anything. EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:27, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

 * Thanks, man. Have a happy Thanksgiving! It was a truly great year in baseball. Now I am just trying to get out of credit card debt after going to several postseason games! :) I appreciate your message. I have been dealing with internet signal issues which restrict me from making larger edits, but hopefully we'll figure those out soon and I'll be able to go back to making substantive content contributions. EricEnfermero (Talk) 11:15, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I hope you get those issues sorted out soon. I'll try to have a great Thanksgiving as well, and it will be easier if the Lions win for a fifth consecutive year. Regards, Lepricavark (talk) 13:18, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Robert Kraft - Celebrity Circles Section (Neutral Point of View)
Hi EricEnfermero,

You recently reverted an edit that was made to Robert Kraft's Wikipedia page. Specifically, this edit was made to add a "Celebrity Circles" section to his page, which provided information about the various activities that he has participated in with a number of celebrities. You stated that that section had a "less than neutral" point of view, so I wanted to check in and see what can be done to ensure it has a more neutral point of view.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.116.123.66 (talk) 16:22, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I really can't think of a way that this could be included while maintaining the appropriate tone for an encyclopedia. People closely connected to a subject are discouraged from editing that subject's article, but if that's the situation, you could include this info on the subject's personal website. A celebrity hanging out with a celebrity (or a notable person becoming "a celebrity in his own right") shouldn't be something you ever read about in an encyclopedia. We just stick to neutral descriptions of activities that receive significant coverage in reliable sources. Thanks for helping us keep WP free of promotional or non-encyclopedic language. EricEnfermero (Talk) 16:37, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Tony Oliva recent edit 12/2/2017
Good morning. Yes, you were absolutely right about last night's revert. Retrosheet was not wrong, I just went to the specified start of his slump at the end of the first date specified,using a part of a game, so I was incorrect about that. However, from August 21-28, 1966, he had only 3 hits in 29 at-bats, his batting average dropped 12 points in a week.(retrosheet daily log for Oliva). Could that be added too? If so, please add this. He was a great hitter, and if not been beset by so many injuries, would have won a couple of more batting titles and made the Hall of Fame. He played from 1964-1976, a pitchers dominated era. I'm 61, remember him well. Thank you and have a good weekend.2601:581:8500:949C:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk) 15:01, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Had a longer reply to this, but I lost it in an edit conflict because you edited your question in the middle of me typing my response. (Remember from previous conversations that it's okay to leave a slightly imperfect question on someone's talk page; to the person trying to respond, edit conflicts are a lot more annoying than minor issues with the original question.) To sum up, you can add it if you want to, as long as it maintains summary style (doesn't get overly detailed), but I am editing mostly from a mobile device due to connection problems, so that kind of addition is not easy for me right now. EricEnfermero (Talk) 16:19, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Precious three years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Looking for help - Princhalex
I am the subject of biographical information. Did you look at my talk page? I had links to an addition about lecturing in South Africa that I want included. Plus there is a citation flag concerning my Bachelors degree and my employment at the Institute of Audio Research. My intent is to make sure my page is accurate not to use it in some manner that violates Wikipedia rules. (unsigned - User:Princhalex)
 * Princhalex, I've created a new section on my user talk page for your message. I removed the Help Needed template from my user talk page because that template might erroneously suggest that I'm the one seeking assistance. In general, questions about article content should be discussed on the article talk page and it looks like you've started that process, so your best bet is to let the discussion proceed, especially since it sounds like this isn't an emergency where there is some sensitive/contentious/erroneous material being included about you.
 * Briefly, if your entry is written with only objective facts that appear in independent and reliable sources (ex: most newspapers, books, journals and magazines), you shouldn't have to worry about any Citation Needed tags. The hard thing is that sometimes there can be things you know are true but that are not readily verifiable in reliable sources; those things should generally be left out of WP entries. I saw that you sent me some emails, but I am more comfortable (especially in cases involving the subjects of articles) if the discussion stays on the relevant talk pages and it sounds like that's already going on. EricEnfermero (Talk) 13:52, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure if this is getting to you because even though you know your way around wikipedia, it looks like a maze to me. There is a newspaper article already on my wiki page stating that I am a graduate of Brandeis University. It is the one about the Record Producer giving back to his alma mater. It is from the Boston Globe and states that I am a graduate of Brandeis University. Why do I have a citation needed flag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princhalex (talk • contribs) 14:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm getting it. After this, you really need to go back to the article talk page though. That will keep the communication consistent and it will make it easier on you to navigate. Part of the problem right now is that you have communication going in too many places, even in my email again, but I feel like I was straightforward in asking you not to do that anymore in this situation.
 * The passage with the CN tag doesn't seem entirely verified. There is nothing in there about the master's degree, for example. Note that we don't want a transcript or anything, just a newspaper or magazine or book passage mentioning your degrees. Just insert that in place of the CN tag and we should be good - or remember that you can take any unverifiable info out of the entry and there would be no need for a tag. Note that a quote attributed to you on your Berklee page characterizes you as a former recording artist, so that may lead to confusion. I'm confident that they can help you with this stuff on the article talk page. EricEnfermero (Talk) 14:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

SPI reports
To answer your question from Sockpuppet investigations/Aggiefan47, you have a few different options. If you're adding new IP's or accounts to an existing report, then yes you should be adding them manually. If you're reporting many at once, you can use the sockpuppeteer option in twinkle's ARV menu. Broadly speaking there are three main reasons for keeping reports separate: the existing report is already closed, but not archived, if the evidence in the two reports is sufficiently different, so that investigating one is unlikely shed any light on the other, or for CU reasons when one report is only IP's and the other includes a CheckUser request. I hope that clears things up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:22, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Category:20th-century physicians
Do you think much is gained by putting all these physicians in a century category together? Where there enough to make a century/country category that seems helpful. A century on its own is not very defining. Rathfelder (talk) 23:24, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there a discussion about deleting the category - and why or why not? EricEnfermero (Talk) 23:26, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Peer review request
Regarding [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball&diff=816220483&oldid=816220433 this edit]: perhaps you could consider spelling out the term "peer review" in the heading? To the uninitiated the first term that comes to mind is "public relations". Thanks for your long-standing contributions! isaacl (talk) 16:18, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a great suggestion. The funny thing is that it makes me irrationally upset when people use Wikipedia for "PR" purposes. :) EricEnfermero (Talk) 18:56, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Juan Gonzalez (baseball) and Robinson Cano (baseball) articles
Juan Gonzalez-go to Accomplishments section,where it says 2-time AL Home Run Champion(92,93),if you click on that, goes to Home Run derby page,it should go to List of Major League Baseball annual home run leaders or Baseball Reference. Robinson Cano, punctuation omission,first paragraph, first line,Accent symbol over the o.Scroll to 2017 section,three instances.Personal life,two instances with missing accents over the o. Cant find symbol for that. Thank you for your help.2601:581:8500:949C:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I may not be 100% clear on the meaning of your message, but it looks like the wikilink for the 2x HR leader wikilink in the Gonzalez infobox goes to the right place, but of course you can fix it if not or you can raise the issue on the article talk page. The issue with Spanish-language diacritic marks (accents/tildes) is going to be a constant battle because the average English-speaking baseball fan doesn't write like that. But you can fix them by finding the right letter with the accent, highlighting it, copying it and then pasting it in place of the non-accented letter. I'm wondering if there should technically be an accent over the first O in Robinson (this would be more consistent with Spanish accent rules, but it's not found in any sources I can locate - the RC Facebook account, for example, doesn't use diacritics anywhere in his name at all). EricEnfermero (Talk) 16:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Invitation
Hello EricEnfermero. A reminder about Under-representation of science and women in Africa: Wikimania 2018 an opportunity to bridge the gap. Your contribution is appreciated. Ear-phone (talk) 15:29, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikify: Current Backlog Reduction Plan
Hey, I noticed you marked yourself as a member of WikiProject Wikify and you are currently listed as active. I was wondering if you would be able to assist with our current backlog reduction plan. While traditional drives are more structured month-long sprints by WikiProject Wikify members, there is currently lacking activity within the project and in order to significantly reduce the incredible backlog, members are encouraged to review all articles marked with the Underlinked Template Message - underlinked - a list of which can be found here - to analyze the worthiness of the template message on the given article. Articles that have nothing to link or are have had wikilinks sufficiently added should have the template removed to clear the backlog and make it easier for editors to find articles in genuine need of wikification. This can be done by any editor; however, all editors should consider joining if they haven't done so already. Thank you!

The Novac (talk) 03:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Alan Wiggins
Hello, EricEnfermero – You can see that I have completed the copy-edit you requested at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. It was quite well written as it was, so I only made a few small edits. I wanted to mention a few things:

1) A comma after an initial prepositional phrases such as "In 1990" is optional, as long as it is consistent throughout the article. I prefer no comma there; I don't think it is necessary as a guide to pronunciation, and I think it reflects a more modern style. However, if you prefer the comma, let me know and I'd be glad to put the commas back in.

2) In the section Alan Wiggins, I moved a sentence (with the accompanying reference) from the third paragraph to the second paragraph. I thought that a sentence beginning "Wiggins stated that he had contracted the disease" did not belong after statements saying he had died. However, after saving my edits and looking at the second paragraph, I realized that there is a bit of a disconnect between that sentence and the sentence right before it. The sentence begins "Wiggins stated that he had contracted the disease", but the previous sentence mentions two diseases, pneumonia the tuberculosis, which, of course, are not the disease meant by "the disease". I thought the sentence might work if it is placed immediately after this sentence:


 * Though he often stayed with friends, some of his longtime friends felt that he died in seclusion, embarrassed by what had happened with his life.

Another possibility is to put the sentence back where it was, in the third paragraph, but change "Wiggins stated" to "Wiggins had stated", which makes it clear that he stated it earlier, before he died.

You might give this some thought and decide the best place for that sentence.

3) In the last paragraph in the section Alan Wiggins, you have a sentence that ends:


 * after the Dodgers decided to leave him unprotected.

I wonder if you could either link the term "unprotected" or briefly explain it. Those readers not familiar with baseball might not know what "unprotected" means.

Well that's all. – Corinne (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I really appreciate your edits! These additional insights are helpful to me as well. I'll be able to return to the entry by this weekend and I will incorporate these suggestions. Thanks again. EricEnfermero (Talk) 17:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)