User talk:Larrybob

I live in San Francisco. I am interested in zine publishing, queer culture, and music. I publish the zine Holy Titclamps

Washington Blade
It appears my edit un-did yours. Sorry, didn't realize you were editing at the same time. I still think, though, that a reference to the shutdown needs to appear near the beginning. --JimBurnell (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually it appears that my edits did NOT un-do yours. *whew* --JimBurnell (talk) 16:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

GLSEN
Can you give some citations on how the "controversy" section at GLSEN is inaccurate? I searched on Google, but couldn't find much of anything, and what I could find appeared to be based on that one unreliable article. eaolson 03:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

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AfD Nomination: Bruce Daniels
Another editor has listed an article that you have been involved in editing, Bruce Daniels, at Articles for deletion/Bruce Daniels. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --Eastmain 03:36, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Invitation.
Heya, I notice you're into queer culture, so I'd like to invite you to join WikiProject LGBT studies. We'd be delighted to have you on board! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

nigeriacongress.org
In this edit, I think you're making the same mistake I did a while ago, referring to http://www.nigeriacongress.org as the official website of the National Assembly of Nigeria. Note how it is actually controlled by WANGOnet, which stands for West African Non-Governmental Organization Network or something similar. Picaroon 19:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the pointer. Is the site reliable, though?--Larrybob 19:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a reliable website - I've cited it multiple times, and it seems to have it's facts straight. Picaroon 19:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

ZineWiki
Hi Larrybob. Since you are a prominent zine editor, I thought you might be interested to know that the article on ZineWiki has been nominated for deletion. [http://zinewiki.com/index.php? ZineWiki] is a project dedicated to the documentation of zines, zine editors and zine culture, and Holy Titclamps is included there. If you would be interested in voicing your thoughts on the matter, please go to:. Hope to hear from you there!Intheshadows 19:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Staceyann Chin
Thanks for the message. Yes, I started to write something. I can't do it now, but I'll try to add what I can in the next few days. Burnley 18:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
SatyrBot 05:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

List of queercore bands
Hi Larrybob, Thanks for leaving a message for me. I've responded on the talk page. -- Siobhan Hansa 01:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Big Gay Sketch Show
I plan to expand the cast section with mini-bios of those who don't warrant separate articles. Otto4711 17:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Queercore List
Hi Larrybob, Thanks for leaving me a message regarding the list of Queercore bands. In my view, the value of such a list is that it provides a hitorical overview of queercore bands and since such a list is available no where else and since documentation of such a history is available no where else, the list is important. As well, the list makes these bands accessible to anyone who might be interested in such information that would otherwise have a very hard time tracking down all this information in one place; whether that be the historian, the reporter researching an article, or the kid in Idaho who doesn't have access to such information locally. It's just for this reason that I included so many external links. The Queercore movement, by neccesity, seems to have to utilize unconventional outlets to preserve and document its history, since interest in this documentation hasn't come from more mainstream outlets thus far. Such uncoventional outlets are useful also for providing accessibility to current information about Queercore that might be difficult to find otherwise. I've used Wikipedia for this purpose in assembling this list.

However, I'm well aware that interest in preserving the history of what has been referred to by Wikipedians as "minority" subcultures is not the purpose of Wikipedia. The list was erased at one point by an editor, who made the above comment, and after I appealed to the administrator Bearcat, was reinstated. You can read about this episode on the List of Queercore bands talk page. However, despite getting the list reinstated, this experience proved to me that perhaps Wikipedia is not the place to preserve such a history, even though no other venue is available at the present time. Not only can it be deleted easily by editors who may not favour such a list existing, the experience served to remind me that I have no wish to spend my time arguing with others over the value of such a history, or the inclusion of any of the articles that others have attempted to delete, and no wish to spend a lot of time on such work since it is, after all, only temporary. This being the case, I no longer spend too much time editing on Wikipedia any longer. As you can see from the above, my agenda from the beginning was not the betterment of Wikipedia, but rather the preservation and advancement of the Queercore movement. Therefore, I'll leave it to you to decide if the list of Queercore bands has value, in whatever form you choose to perserve it in, and for whatever reasons you might have to either delete, edit, or keep it.Intheshadows 18:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time &mdash; get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!

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Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes.

Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.

"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.

Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?

Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.

Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).

Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.

Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.

This month's Wiki stars
Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!!

And the Oscar goes to...
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.

Leather and lace
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!

Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).

Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. - In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Kisses,

Miss Julie To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know. Delivered on 12:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Feminist Majority Foundation
Thanks for the note. However, I didn't miss it as such. I found the IP vandalism (obvious) and checked the previous two edits also by Scarlet 257. I do not have the specialist knowledge to judge whether the removal of Bikini Kill is or is not vandalism, as you classified it in your edit summary, but as far as I knew (and as far as I still do) it was a valid editorial action. What makes it vandalism? Tyrenius 01:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I suggest you discuss it with the user, as there is nothing on his/her talk page about this, rather than just branding as vandalism, which should not be applied to good faith edits - which these may be. I'm not looking any further into it myself, but it should obviously be checked whether the mentions that have been deleted were correct in the first place. Also, please remember WP:BITE. Tyrenius (talk) 08:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hello
Just thought you might be interested in this: WikiProject Gender Studies/Feminism Task Force --Grrrlriot (talk) 23:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, Miss Julie, and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Wikipedia weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has tumbleweeds blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the talk page of the project, you can let us know you're still around.

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

- In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon."
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We miss you, Miss Julie, as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your stupid houses built and hurry up and come back. --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.
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Great speech
I got a couple pictures of you from Pride yesterday. Want me to upload to Commons? Bastique demandez 22:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was walking around with one of my co-workers, and we heard your words about anonymity on the internet, and you mentioned your handle, and I said to him, "He has to have an account on Wikipedia." So I took some pictures.  And here you are.  Bastique demandez 05:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)



LGBT WikiProject Newsletter (July 2008)

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Homocore (zine)
The article on Homocore, the zine is up for deletion. The article is very new but various editors, including some very public Christians, are not wasting any time trying to get it taken down. They've even listed it as a pornographic publication. If you have time, please come and add your opinion to the discussion. Thanks, Intheshadows (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Great work on the Homocore article! Intheshadows (talk) 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've been meaning to get that Dennis Cooper article scanned for a while and finally went to the library and did it. Also, after looking at the library's copy of Amy Spencer's DIY book, I think I need a copy of that. It looks like there's a new edition that came out this year.--Larrybob (talk) 17:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Homo hop
I have nominated homo hop for renaming to lgbt hip hop artists. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Terraxos (talk) 16:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

John Avalos
Yeah, this is what happens when you're starting an article using copy and paste and watching the board president elections at the same time. *sigh*...thanks for catching my mistakes! — kur  ykh   03:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the info about the three-revert rule. I didn't know. I'll let the page go... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.224.214.122 (talk) 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009
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Discussion of categories
Thanks for the tip - but it wasn't me, yer honor.

The chap who was discussing pruning categories on User talk:Asarelah was User:Heironymous Rowe pablo hablo. 21:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Nasty Band in Go-go
Re your message: I agree that the two edits were entirely an attempt to promote a non-notable band. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello Larrybob,
I am contacting you in regards to your status as a member of WikiProject LGBT studies. First, I noticed that you expressed an interest in queer subculture and 'zines, of which the subject of this request has both edited and contributed to in the past. Then when I saw your user history includes an interest in Homo-hop, you seemed like the perfect editor for me to contact--since one of the first sections deleted from his page was that of musical collaborations, one of which discredits his appearance as "featuring..." on a track by the artist Deadlee.

Specifically, I am asking for your help regarding the Clint Catalyst article, which has been undergoing an onslaught of vandalism, particularly from the editors Hullaballoo Wolfowitz and Bali Ultimate.

"Hullaballoo Wolfowitz" has been reported as having a COF with Clint Catalyst in the past, and has even been blocked from editing his page for a period of 48 hours. However, even a cursory glance at the page's history shows that once the block was removed, he returned with what seems to be an obsession. Repeatedly, information is removed based on speculation and assumptions. I am of the firm belief that he is Gaming the System, and find it curious that all the edits he makes are from a public library. (In other words, wouldn't this make it easy for him to approve edits under another name from his home?)

I've never met Clint, though have been compiling information about him for an on-line community I started recently. In the process, this is how I discovered Hullaballoo and Bali's insistent removal of cited content (primarily under false statements about the circumstances of said citations - claiming names are not mentioned which are, falsely labeling Catalyst's spoken word performance at a noted LGBT rally at the state capitol as "open mic," accusing me of "copying and pasting" a bibliography from Catalyst's personal site when in actuality, one differs from the other). Moreover, the aforementioned bibliography (with ISBN numbers) was approved by NeutralHomer for inclusion in the article yet every time I replace it, it is again removed and my edit is claimed to be "unconstructive."

On the contrary, Hullaballoo and "Bali Ultimate" have proven themselves as "unconstructive" to the page, since the most notable of Clint's accomplishments (his status as a WGAW accredited screenwriter and television producer, awards he's received for his writing, etc.) are either removed or re-worded in the most demeaning possible manner.

As someone with noted Wiki expertise, I am writing to request your help in restoring the quality of this page. While I'm not the person who created the page, I differ in Hullaballoo's belief that Catalyst is a "minor-league celebrity" who merely had a "shrine...built by his...friends."

Not only have Hullaballoo and Bali's edits caused the article to be demoted to "start class" quality, but I find it astounding that either editor is credited as being "unbiased." Take, for example, Bali's statement about the former 'Trendsetter' section:

"This seems like an extended exercise in name dropping ("clint attended a party with a celebrity! Omg!!") almost entirely cited to blogs, social networking sites, and commercial sites. Sticking here since it is a large chunk removed in one fell swoop, but the more i think on it, the more im convinced it doesn't belong. Should have this boiled down to actual sources and real information in a day or so. But must say this is one of the single greatest fests of bad sourcing i've ever seen."

has zero basis in objective editing.

The majority of the information listed in the large chunk which he edited "in one fell swoop" are: The L.A. Times, the L.A. Weekly, Instinct magazine (which has its own page on Wiki, BTW), Frontiers Newsmagazine, Metromix (L.A.'s entertainment newspaper owned by the L.A. Times), Gay.com and Out Magazine (Out.com). None of the aforementioned are "blogs, social networking sites," or "commercial sites." Hence, his statement that "this is one of the single greatest fests of bad sourcing i've [sic] ever seen" is not only incorrect, but seems to be a character assassination.

Furthermore, this allegedly omniscient, omnipotent editor clearly does not understand the historical value of trends--especially in regard to fashion. Flapper dresses are indicative of the 1920s; Christian Dior's "New Look" (note: the trend is credited to the name of the individual associated with it) was introduced at a historically relevant period in time: that of women regaining their feminity post-WW2; then there's the mini-skirt to the 1960s--and how historical figures such as Edie Sedgwick are known first and foremost for their status as "It" Girls/Guys -- i.e., those who set the trends, or at least are noted within a country/region as being "on top of them." (Prime example: mini-tophat with Catalyst in Fall 2007 issue of the L.A. Times. Now, in Spring of 2009, these hats are carried by Urban Outfitters, H & M, and other major retail chains.  Claiming the second largest newspaper in the country deem Catalyst a trend-setter is "bad sourcing" is as ludicrous as Bali's claim that "This seems like an extended exercise in name dropping ("clint attended a party with a celebrity! Omg!!")."

Precisely where is such aforementioned emphasis (i.e., Catalyst's connection/friendship/rubbing elbows with a celebrity) mentioned in any of the section that follows?:

Buzznet has Clint Catalyst as a designated "Buzzmaker,"[1] a term the site uses for members "who are top tier."[2] Buzzmakers are identified by a pink star on their page. Out of the entire site, only 40 users are designated with the "Buzzmaker badge."

June 13, 2006: L.A. Weekly’s ‘Style Council’ noted Clint among guests at the private/invite only show of musician Peaches as making an impression with a “to-die-for feathered hat.”[3]

April 4, 2007: Noted in print among the fashion show "Front Row/A-Listers" at Project Runway winner Jeffrey Sebelia's standing-room-only premiere at L.A.'s elite 2121 Lofts.[4]

July 17, 2007: Frontiers magazine runs a two page article in which Clint is deemed the 'King of What's Next'.[5]

October 18, 2007: "Clint Catalyst, at BOXeight, is on top of the trend with a miniature top hat like the ones being sported all over London." - Lawrence K. Ho, Los Angeles Times [6][7]

December 7, 2007: Nexia Holdings’ Holiday Runway event is hosted by “fashion icon” Clint Catalyst.[8]

January 2008: Instinct magazine deemed Clint a “red-carpet-stalking fashionista [who’s] in the moment before anyone else is.” ""Instinct Magazine"". http://instinctmagazine.com/celebrity-interviews/clint-catalyst-takes-our-pop-quiz.html.

February 2008: Catalyst is a Metromix party host [9][10]

March 5, 2008: Fashion Journalist Caroline Ryder deems “Clint Catalyst a queer fashion figurehead.” [11]

May 14, 2008: Metromix magazine deems Catalyst a "Fashion Renaissance Man."[12]

In Out.com’s 2008 coverage of ‘Power Gays,’ Clint Catalyst is listed as one of the three “Buzznet celebrities” who, “one 14-year old girl at a time [is] beating the hype machine at its own game.” In the same article, journalist Japhy Grant goes so far as to describe him as perhaps an “unintended role model”[13] since “At long last, for mainstream middle American tweens, the popular kids are weirdos and outcasts.”

July 29, 2008: The popular website Gay.com refers to Catalyst as a 'Scene King.' [14] When asked to describe his inimitable personal style that has garnered this title for him even within a definition of "scene kings" on UrbanDictionary.com [15], Clint replied "If Isabella Blow had a male counterpart who was portrayed in a Mark Ryden painting and weasled his way out." [14] In an interview for the Peta2/Fur Is Dead campaign, he simplified his 'look' as being focused on "Dark themes, bright colors. Hats, pomp, humor...and circumstance. A motto of mine when getting dressed-up? "Nothing exceeds like excess." [16]

March 14, 2009: Journalist Gendy Alimurung's coverage of Gen Art's fashion week kick-off show at the historic downtown Los Angeles theater states: "There are even the requisite few celebs. Clint Catalyst, looking handsomely vampire-like, is sitting across the aisle." [17]

Rather than deleting an entire section under false pretenses (especially when March 14, 2009's entry from the L.A. Weekly cites Catalyst as the celebrity--not his attendance at some party with someone else claiming such a title), couldn't this information have been used to construct a paragraph or two stating the obvious fact that insofar as subcultural "icons"/"influences"/"personalities" are concerned, Clint's personal style has made a mark during a specific moment in time and to a specific demographic?

Before anyone has a chance to yell "trivial" or "non-encyclopedic matter," please take into consideration Edie Sedgwick's own Wiki page, which states: "Sedgwick became known as "The Girl of Year" in 1965 after starring in several of Andy Warhol's short films in the 1960s.[1]"

By Bali's "logic," Segwick's status as a trendsetter ("Girl of the Year") would be irrelevant—and Andy Warhol, one would assume, would be another "exercise in name-dropping."

The way I see it, there seems to be a problem with anything that associates Clint with the term "celebrity"—hence my usage of the phrase subcultural "icons"/"influences"/"personalities" earlier.

My point is not to argue whether or not Catalyst qualifies as the "c" word; there are already countless websites for fodder of that ilk (although, for the record? MySpace.com has him listed in their "Official MySpace Celebrity Profiles Directory" under the initial "C"—a category that has his name alongside Celine Dion, Cher, Christina Ricci, et al).

On the contrary, my point is that Catalyst's historical relevance was clearly stated in this list Bali Ultimate deleted: that of a "Queer Fashion Figurehead" in a new Millennium with a new set of standards, by which “for mainstream middle American tweens, the popular kids are weirdos and outcasts.”

Larry-bob, as a Wiki editor who specializes in "niche" topics that fall within the scope of That Which Is LGBT, I ask of you as a mentor to please help "improve the general quality and range of Clint Catalyst's article."

I do not know if you are familiar with the subject, nor am I aware what your personal opinion of his work might be. What I do know, however, is this: the fact alone that a flamboyant queer author has "crossed over" or "joined the ranks" on any list of mainstream heterosexuals identified as "famous" seems quite relevant in the LGBT timeline. A landmark, even: one that's unique to my generation, the so-called "Gen Y" or "Millennial" demographic.

Along with the internet has come a sense of democratization: one by which Catalyst has been able to utilize his on-line presence (that of a "trendsetter," or whatever term one chooses to apply) as a means to establish himself as an artist.

In my case, I knew of him first by his "image" - or "status" - among social networking sites. His sense of style is what intrigued me, then led me to his writing. Put simply: in his case, personal style and sense of substance are intertwined. He's an anomaly. A "Sign of the Times." An exception.

What guidance could you give to make his page "jump-class"? Also, how can the quality of a page be improved when I'm dealing with what feels like a "tag team" against any constructive contributions? Thank you, Granny Bebeb (talk) 11:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, I just wanted to ask for some clarification about your recent addition of Wang Dan's Twitter account to the list of external links at Wang Dan. Apparent consensus is that external links to official twitter accounts are ok, as long as they are verified. Hence, are you certain that this is his official account? Can you give any evidence to back that up? (I've seen Facebook profiles and whatnot added to the article claiming to be Wang Dan's personal profile, which turned out to be fan-based and not actually his, that's why I ask). Thank you!

-- Joren (talk) 02:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point. I found a news article from Radio Free Asia about Wang Dan's offical Facebook page, which he says can be reached by plugging in his Gmail address, wangdan@gmail.com I am not a registered facebook user but I believe that corresponds to the Facebook page  which has that email listed as its contact and a link in the bio to the twitter account . Also if you add wangdan@gmail.com to your email contacts and then do a friend find on twitter, it will pull up the wangdan1989 twitter account.  Maybe since there is a direct reference to the Facebook account that is better to link to.--Larrybob (talk) 14:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. Unfortunately I can't read Chinese but I'll take your word for it :)  It might be a good idea to add that as a reference next to the official link, and somewhere in the reference you can include a short description like "this URL says that this is his official twitter page" or something.  Thanks!  -- Joren (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't read Chinese either - I'm relying on Google Translate, but the gmail address is in the article in western script.--Larrybob (talk) 14:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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