User talk:Latinollectual

Ad Orientum where do you get off calling me a sock puppet .i got this account by contacting Wiki Foundation .im not a bot you stupid dill hole

April 2020
Ad Orientum you have it all wrong my.man .i never had an account before .i was a guest user lol {unblock | reason=I would like to point out the reason im being blocked was an edit fight on another page .Rosguill keeps reporting me and now ive been blocked for sock puppetry ...this is not even remotely justified .Wikipedia made my account because i was unfairly blocked because Rosguill. he tried having my ip blocked for a year .but i contacted Wiki account teams directly and explained the situation that i was previously only a guest and had been targeted by Rosguill to be ip blocked for an entire year. Wiki account teams rescinded my ip block and created a wiki account .now Rosguill reported me to Ad Orientem‬ and had him block my account permenantly ..i dont deserve this ..i just want to help people ...not fight them..i didnt bypass the block wiki removed it ...😞😞😞Also i know the reason why im blocked is for sock puppetry to protect wiki from vandals who just want to attack people .i am.not one of those kinds of people. i have no wish to get into edit wars or harrassing people. sure am i smug a little ? Do i message people to brag about getting justice when i deserve it for being treated unfairly ? Yes but this sock puppetry i was accused of is a blatant lie and i dont believe its fair to block me for messaging and gloating over wiki rescinding an ip block lasting an entire year  someone unfairly had placed against me when i was a guest account in the first place. Remember blocks are supposed to be learning lessons not punishment..i didnt threaten anyone ...harass them and call them names ...just gloated a little ...i was frustrated. if it helps ill stop gloating Latinollectual (talk) 10:53, 18 April 2020 (UTC)}Latinollectual (talk) 10:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

{unblock|please unblock me i am not a sock puppet nor have i ever partook in such misconduct .ive been a guest on here a lot but never had an account before .} Latinollectual (talk) 10:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

{unblock | reason=i completely believe the block against me is unwarranted. i am very logical and went through a lot of trouble to get wiki to make my new account for me so i can help other people even though other users just want to undo my edits and report me repeatedly Latinollectual (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)}


 * You had three open unblock requests. That's abusive. Please have only a single open unblock request at a time, please. I have not reviewed any of the three because it was not clear which one request you wished reviewed. WP:GAB can help you understand how to write an unblock request. --Yamla (talk) 11:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll also note you'll need to address these edits, which were blatantly inappropriate and would be sufficient by themselves to lead to a block. And you'll probably want to specify the IP address range, so your actions can be reviewed. --Yamla (talk) 11:16, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh goodness, I took a look through your filter log. A number of your personal attacks were prevented. You'll also need to address those, because they clearly show you should remain blocked. --Yamla (talk) 11:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

How do i close the other ones ? Latinollectual (talk) 11:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have done so for you. --Yamla (talk) 11:16, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you .im still new to all this. I was a guest for a long time and never felt i needed and account before all this mess. thanks for the guidance Latinollectual (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

And those edits .okay let me explain. that edit was made as a gloat .not because i bypassed a block .i never bypassed a block as i see it. I was a guest account previously and had attempted a peaceful information edit on a wiki page .Rosguill had me ip blocked for a year for "vandalism " which i didnt commit. i contacted wikipedia account team and explained my situation. They themselves undid the ip block and made me a wikipedia account so i could edit the pages i wanted .im a very serious person when it comes to sharing knowledge .and i will go to great lengths for it .but i will not willfully break rules by "sockpuppeting " i fairly plead my cases. Latinollectual (talk) 11:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Also i do not personally attack people .i do ask for help against being unfairly treated by contacting multiple teams when people claim im vandalising something when im not. i might even gloat in an unseemly manner which i admit may be taking it too far. but thats not anything like attacking someone. Latinollectual (talk) 11:25, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Calling someone an "ass hat" and a "stupid pos", which you have attempted to do repeatedly, is a personal attack. --Yamla (talk) 11:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I just looked at the filter log .i see where you are coming from. None of those messages were showing up for me and i was getting frustrated .i am still learning to use wikipedia functions and i was getting very frustrated so i tried posting my very blatantly honest frustrations somewhere so i could figure out how it all worked .i apologize if its in the wrong place and if its targeting anyone .but being attacked on my ip for being snarky and sock puppeting you didnt commit is very frustrating and im trying to figure out how this all works Latinollectual (talk) 11:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for admitting you lied when you said "i do not personally attack people". You'll need to address this in your unblock request. Being frustrated is not sufficient grounds for personal attacks. You are expected to behave maturely and will need to convince us you can be trusted to do so, even though you've demonstrated you can't, in your unblock request. --Yamla (talk) 11:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Also i did try removing those messages as soon as i posted them on my page but there doesnt seem to be an edit function available outright. Im not saying i was right to vent my frustrations that way .but i did try and remove them ...unsuccessfully. you may have noticed they abruptly stop. Thats when i started figuring out how to access the seperate viewing pages Latinollectual (talk) 11:33, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

And how am i supposed to address that ? I did non purposely lie. its regrettable you see it that way but i am honestly trying to resolve this peacefully i might not be the most passive person but i do care about my own behaviour and how it affects others. the only guidance ive even received that was remotely helpful was you and the account teams ...everyone else has this "sweep it under a rug " attitude Latinollectual (talk) 11:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Look i dont know where to start except by promising to hold my tongue in the future. i got upset i got blocked unfairly and deconstructively went about trying to just figure out what to do and who to contact .this is a very regrettable incident .i just want to resolve it and move on. i really do have a lot i can offer to the community. im just not good at first impressions and i have a hard time wording myself constructively when i get stressed out and i feel targeted or i get upset. There has to be some way that i can work with someone on this so that i can resolve this is an amiable manner  Latinollectual (talk) 11:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok,I have received your emails, all four. I must say however that based on almost everything you have said and done, and the tone of your communications with other editors, that I am not sanguine as to the wisdom of unblocking you. However, I am content to defer to 's judgement here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

So basically .even though you know you got roped into suppressing me by a third party to antagonize you want me to beg for my account like an animal during a virus outbreak so you can dehumanize me further than i already have been over this entire incident so you guys can feel content ill be a good puppy and not harrass you even though thia could have all been avoided by you just contacting me outright to begin with to check the validity of the entire even being used against me. Latinollectual (talk) 16:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I must say this is very enlightening to my fellow humans behaviours and just how needy you guys can be for self satisfaction. you must enjoy suppressing people and making them really beg and whine for their stuff back .thats what im getting from this .you dont truly understand just how aggravating this whole thing could be from your end if you had to go through the same thing i believe Ad Orientem. .either trying to make an example out of me or just plain apathetic to everything. Look if i wanted to be nasty at you guys i had the chance when i emailed you directly didnt i ? But i didnt i kept it very civil .because unlike on the wiki page i had a good direction and knowledge of the platform i was using. and i could have said any number of things but i didnt and i kept it on a more civil tone. and how am i suppost to show you guys you can trust me when i sure as heck can never trust you guys. you guys clearly enjoy belittling me Latinollectual (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I love how you are all just trying to pin Rosguill abuse of power on my attitude he knowingly abused the report function to suppress me for getting into an edit war with him even though i had no idea at the time it was a person and not an ai script


 * Wow. Enough. Talk page access revoked. If at some point in the future, you can demonstrate how you have significantly matured and can address your totally inappropriate behaviour, you are free to avail yourself of WP:UTRS. You'll want to wait at least six months, though. --Yamla (talk) 18:36, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

 Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive. ([ block log] • [ active blocks] • [ global blocks] • [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/autoblock/?user=&project=en.wikipedia.org autoblocks] • contribs • deleted contribs • [ abuse filter log] • [ creation log] • change block settings • [ unblock] • [ checkuser] ([ log]) )

If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you should read the guide to appealing blocks, then contact administrators by submitting a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. If the block is a CheckUser or Oversight block, was made by the Arbitration Committee or to enforce an arbitration decision (arbitration enforcement), or is unsuitable for public discussion, you should appeal to the Arbitration Committee. Please note that there could be appeals to the unblock ticket request system that have been declined leading to the post of this notice.

UTRS 30148
-- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 20:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Account creation
Actually, This account was created by at  WP:ACC, not the Foundation. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 20:32, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you need any information about this request - - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 20:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I am satisfied that sockpuppetry is probably not applicable in this case. But their deportment certainly indicates that they lack the temperament for working here so I am going to go ahead and amend the block to WP:NOTHERE v socking. Courtesy ping and . -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Works for me. --Yamla (talk) 20:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 21:09, 18 April 2020 (UTC)