User talk:Latroba

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re: http://.antibes.co.uk/ on. Search aggregated or feed pages are Links normally to be avoided, per External links policy--Hu12 (talk) 16:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

You are mistaken.

http://www.antibes.co.uk/scamavoidance.php is not an aggregated feeds page. The IP numbers listed there are first-hand source material derived from an accurate methodology which is able to track the Yahoo-Boys before they even send out an email. Please can you delete this information after reading it.

The IP numbers are provided gratis to enable people to confirm their researches into sources of emails they may have received, and provided so that people can protect their systems in advance.

Latroba (talk) 12:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well potentially being penalized by search engines. --Hu12 (talk) 19:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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You have threatened to the ultimate extent without apparently considering the issue. Your response is irrational under the Wednesbury Principles.

You have not answered my first response with regard to the aggregated feed page issue which you have raised: the information provided on the page is available nowhere else and the data is generated at source: it is not an aggregate of data from elsewhere and therefore cannot be considered to be an aggregated feeds page.

The link is provided as a public resource to assist people to protect themselves against the scam systems that are in operation. It is not spam and is highly relevant information to this article.

Will you kindly explain yourself properly: anyone would think that you are a scammer trying to protect the industry. With the real-time data on the apparently offending page, http://www.antibes.co.uk/scamavoidance.php, law enforcement agencies can liase with ISPs providing internet connexions to internet cafes in West Africa in realtime to get individuals arrested on the spot as they surf for victims.

Your suppression of the information is bizarre.

Latroba (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * David, External links policy on Advertising and conflicts of interest states You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, and in this case, you are the owner of antibes.co.uk (Site hosted on the Travelfactfile server: 207.44.140.100; latroba.co.uk, ect...). Unfortunately your conflict of interest editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote antibes.co.uk. Such a conflict is strongly discouraged. Your contributions to wikipedia under Latroba and IP 86.129.136.93, consist entirely of adding external links to antibes.co.uk and is considered  WP:Spam. Looking through your contributions as a whole, they all seem to be antibes.co.uk related only. Please do not add links to your own websites to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is NOT a "repository of links" or a "vehicle for advertising" and persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted. Any further spamming may result in your account and/or your IP address being blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please see the welcome page and Civility. Avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to promote antibes.co.uk right?
 * Here are some additional rules:
 * SPAM
 * External link spamming
 * Source soliciting
 * How not to be a spammer
 * External links policy
 * Links normally to be avoided
 * Advertising and conflicts of interest
 * Conflict of interest
 * Editors who have a conflict of interest
 * Accounts used for promotion
 * Law Of Unintended Consequences
 * What Wikipedia is not
 * Wikipedia is not a directory
 * Wikipedia is not a repository for links
 * Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising
 * BLOCK
 * Persistent spamming
 * Accounts that appear, based on their edit history, to exist for the sole or primary purpose of promoting a person, company, product, service, or organization in apparent violation of Conflict of interest or anti-spam guidelines.--Hu12 (talk) 13:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your more detailed explanation. However, www.antibes.co.uk is irrelevant to 419 scams. http://www.antibes.co.uk/scamavoidance.php is relevant. Prediction of IP addresses from which 419 scam emails are sent is unique. So is providing a daily list publicly as a resource. If you can find a better resource, then please post a link in order to enable people to better protect themselves. The article is currently inadequate in not mentioning that such an approach is possible. Presumably you intend to make WikiPedia a better resource?Latroba (talk) 21:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - as such many links do not belong here. Equally Wikipedia is not a place to to promote a site
 * Unlike Wikipedia, DMOZ is a web directory specifically designed to categorize and list all Internet sites; if you've not already gotten your sites listed there, I encourage you to do so -- it's a more appropriate venue for your links than our wikis. Their web address: http://www.dmoz.org/.--Hu12 (talk) 22:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes - thank you - I have known about DMOZ for a decade. Your explanation pales into insignificance when one finds not a mere link but a whole article devoted to promoting a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/419eater.com

The current 419 scam article is deficient in providing advice on how people can protect themselves, other than to indulge in the sport of scam baiting.Latroba (talk) 09:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)